4160 Kingston Ct - Email re: Sump Pump Variance Request
Jeanette Johnson
From: Tom Colbert
Sent: Monday, December 12, 20114:58 PM
To: Jeanette Johnson
Subject: FW: Sump Pump discharge - Variance request, 4160 Kingston Ct
Jeanette,
Is there a way to file this email in the parcel files of both 4160 and 4156 Kingston Ct for future reference?
Tom
From: Tom Colbert
Sent: Monday, December 12, 20114:55 PM
To: 'John Flynn'; 'john@cahillschmitz.com'
Cc: Susie; John Gorder; Russ Matthys; James Hauth
Subject: Sump Pump discharge - Variance request, 4160 Kingston Ct
John/Susan,
I recall this concern and even remember a drive to the neighborhood to observe the issue. I thought I had responded to
your inquiry, but cannot find a record of it. I truly apologized for this oversight.
I fully understand the situation, but unfortunately, there are no provisions in the State Plumbing Code, City Ordinances
or Metropolitan Council rules that will allow an intentional discharge of clean ground or surface water from a sump
pump into the Sanitary Sewer system. The gutter section of an urban street is designed to accommodate both rainfall
events as well as miscellaneous discharges from adjacent properties (i.e. swimming pools, sump pumps, garden hoses,
etc).
The best alternative would be to install some type of shallow drain tile pipe along the back side of the curb and gutter
section to the closest storm catch basin inlet. This would be considered a local benefit to the adjacent property owners
with the costs assessed accordingly. Looking at the distances involved and driveways to be crossed, this may very well be
cost prohibitive. The only other option would be to try and indentify another route where the discharge could flow
overland and percolate back into the ground at a location that wouldn't just re-circulate back to the house foundation.
I'm sorry that I don't have a quick and easy solution for your concerns. If you would like to pursue the drain the option,
please contact our Assistant City Engineer John Gorder (651-675-5646) and he can help you with the design
requirements and permit process for this work in public right of way.
Tom Colbert, P.E.
Director of Public Works
City of Eagan
3830 Pilot Knob Rd.
Eagan, MN 55123-1481
(651- 675-5635 (ph)
(651) 675-5694 (fax)
From: John Flynn [mailto:jflynn0706(acomcast.net1
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 201110:56 AM
To: Tom Colbert
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Cc: Susie
Subject: RE: Elevation of 4160 Kingston Ct Eagan MN(Variance request)
Hi Tom,
We're just wondering if you have taken any action on this item.
John / Susan Flynn
From: John Kroening [mailto:john(cbcahillschmitz.coml
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 20115:55 PM
To: tcolbert(a cityofeagan.com
Cc: jflynn0706(&comcast.net
Subject: Elevation of 4160 Kingston Ct Eagan MN(Variance request)
Hi Tom, I got your name and contact info from James Hauth per a phone request.
John Flynn and I are asking for the City of Eagan to provide a variance for the address of 4160 Kingston Ct. to allow for
the Sump system be put in the floor drain system to eliminate excessive water drainage thruout our culdesac and down
hill to 758 Camberwell Drive(to the nearest city sewer drain).
When our home's (My house # is 4156 Kingston Ct) were built, it was easy to see that John Flynn's home was put at an
elevation that was not tiered. This puts John's home at a lower elevation than mine and runoff is excessive in his
basement.
The home elevations on the other side of our street/culdesac are tiered as in most culdesacs and they do not exhibit this
problem.
Please let us know what we need to do to move this request along, as the continued water flow in the street attracts
garbage and excessive grass clippings. Also, the street just does not look clean with it always being wet.
If you would like to contact us we can be reached at the following numbers:
John Flynn
651 683 0706
John Kroening
651 686 9272
Our email addresses are also defined above.
John, If I have missed anything or you need to add any additional information, please do so.
Thanks,
John Kroening
Cahill, Schmitz, & Cahill Inc.
897 St Paul Ave
St Paul, MN 55116
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