08/12/2003 - Airport Relations Commission MINUTES OF THE EAGAN
AIRPORT RELATIONS COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 12, 2003
A regular meeting of the Eagan Airport Relations Commission was held on Tuesday, August 12,
2003, at 7:00 p.m. Those present were Michael Cook, Bruno DiNella, Steven Grooms, Nathan Krahn,
Stephen Nierengarten, Mike Schlax, Lance Staricha, Jerry Thompson and Charles Thorkildson. Absent
was Clint Hooppaw. Also present were Dianne Lord, Assistant to the City Administrator.
AGENDA
Upon motion by Thompson, seconded by Thorkildson, the agenda was approved as presented.
All members voted in favor.
MINUTES
DiNella made a motion to approve the minutes of the July 8, 2003 meeting; Krahn seconded the
motion. All members voted in favor.
VISITORS TO BE HEARD
Tim Zajic of 2885 Egan Avenue was present and gave his opinion of the noise from his
residence stating the airport is unnecessarily noisy. He further commented on the Los Angeles and
Amsterdam airports and stated MSP has more night noise than either of those airports. He also
presented a web site he constructed regarding airport noise.
ARC COMMUNICATION PLAN
a.) Newsletter articles — DiNella, Thorkildson & Hooppaw — Thorkildson discussed the
newspaper article on FAA insulating only up to the 65 DNL. He further commented on the difference
between decibels and measuring DNL and suggested the next ARC article for the Eagan Newsletter
contain information regarding the FAA article and clarification of DNL and decibels.
b.) ARC "Notebook" — Staricha, Schlax & Thompson — Staricha commented on the
continuing progress of the ARC notebook stating at the end of the year he will turn the notebook over to
staff to monitor new and dated material.
c.) Cable Television — Nierengarten & Krahn — Nierengarten stated there are a couple of
programs in progress right now and an update will follow.
EAGAN/MENDOTA HEIGHTS CORRIDOR ANALYSIS
Staricha gave a brief background on the response letter from Chad Legve, Manager of the
Aviation Noise and Satellite Programs, and also commented on the May 2002 v. 2003 Operations
Comparisons Report, the June 2003 Eagan /Mendota Heights Departure Corridor Analysis Report and
Technical Advisory Report.
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The Commission discussed turbo prop aircraft and runway usage, DC9's, and compliance in the
Eagan /Mendota Heights Corridor. Krahn discussed compliance and non - compliance issues and the
relationship of having no reward or punishment for being compliant or non - compliant.
Lord stated Cindy Greene, MSP ATCT Manager for the FAA, and Chad Leqve, Manager of the
Aviation Noise and Satellite Programs for MAC, will be at the September 9, 2003 ARC meeting. Lord
requested the Commissioners e -mail her questions they would like Ms. Greene and Mr. Leqve to
address at the September meeting.
RESOLUTION RE: EAGAN'S REPRESENTATION ON THE
METROPOLITAN AIRPORTS COMMISSION
Lord gave a brief background regarding legislation and redistricting attempts to achieve
additional representation on the Metropolitan Council and MAC. The Commission discussed the Met
Council and districting of boundaries.
DISCUSSION RE: SEPTEMBER ARC MEETING WITH
REPRESENTATIVES FROM MAC AND FAA
Staricha stated that Chad Leqve from MAC and Cindy Greene from the FAA will be guest
speakers at the September 9, 2003 ARC meeting. The Commission discussed questions and issues to
present to Mr. Legve and Ms. Greene at the September meeting. The Commission requested a
minimum agenda for that meeting to have ample time for discussion.
Krahn commented on Mr. Leqve's title and questioned whether Ms. Greene and he were
knowledgeable in areas other than noise; such as environmental issues, safety, emergency responses and
disastrous events.
AIRPORT DISCLOSURE/DECLARATION LEGISLATION : STATE OF CALIFORNIA
Staricha stated that the City Council at their July 22 workshop directed the ARC to discuss the
issue of disclosure. He further stated the Council approved a policy in 1996 or 1997 regarding
construction restrictions and notification to buyers. Lord noted she would locate the document for
discussion at the September or October ARC meeting, and also noted she would provide an update to
the City Council regarding this issue of disclosure /declaration. The Commission discussed the issue of
legislation, the affects on property containing a disclosure and what happens when contours change.
ADDITION TO FAA REAUTHORIZATION BILL
Staricha gave background on the Reauthorization Bill and stated this was an informational item
only and no action was needed.
STAFF REPORT
Noise Oversight Committee
Staricha stated the public input form used for public comment was approved by the Noise
Oversight Committee. Lord stated the next meeting for NOC is August 21, 2003. City Councilmember
Fields is the City's representative and Assistant to the City Administrator Lord is the alternate.
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MAC Input Meeting Update
Lord gave a brief update on the MAC public input meeting held on July 22, 2003. She stated
two issues expressed by attendees were; accurately forecasting noise impacts and nighttime noise. The
next quarterly public input meeting is scheduled for October 28. 2003.
MSP Joint Airport Zoning Board (JAZB)
Lord stated the MSP Joint Airport Zoning Board has not met since they submitted the final Draft
Airport Zoning Ordinance to MnDOT and, further, stated that once they receive a response from the
MnDOT Commissioner, JAZB will reconvene.
Commissioner DiNella: Acoustics Information
DiNella enclosed information in the ARC packet entitled "Introduction to Acoustics" for
Commission review regarding decibels, frequency weighting, metrics /mathematical formula and
attenuation. The Commission further discussed the monitoring of noise.
Schlax made a motion to extend the meeting by 15 minutes to complete the items on the agenda.
Thorkildson seconded the motion. Aye: 8 Nay: 1 (Krahn)
MSP Noise News
Staricha stated Chad Leqve currently writes the MSP Noise News bulletin and since
Commission members are now receiving this piece in the mail, it will no longer be necessary to include
the document in the ARC packet.
ROUNDTABLE
Jon Hohenstein was introduced by Lord as the City's new Community Development Director.
ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion by Krahn, seconded by Schlax, the Commission members adjourned the meeting
at 8:40 p.m.
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