09/11/2000 - Airport Relations Commission MINUTES OF THE EAGAN
AIRPORT RELATIONS COMMISSION MEETING
SEPTEMBER 11, 2000
A regular meeting of the Eagan Airport Relations Commission was held on Monday, September
11, 2000, at 7:00 p.m. Those present were Eric Drenckhahn, Ted Gladhill, Hassan Saffouri, Steve
Soderling, Lance Staricha, Charles Thorkildson and Nadim Zoberi. Also present were Jamie
Verbrugge, Assistant City Administrator and Mary Swenson, Recording Secretary.
AGENDA
Upon motion by Gladhill, seconded by Zoberi, the agenda was approved as presented. All
members voted in favor.
MINUTES
Gladhill made a motion to approve the minutes; Zoberi seconded the motion. All members
voted in favor.
VISITORS TO BE HEARD
There were no visitors to be heard.
AIRPORT CABLE COMMUNICATIONS PROGRAM
Verbrugge presented a revised draft outline of "The Airport and You ", a public service
educational program being produced by the Eagan Airport Relations Commission. He stated the draft
outline of the program is divided into six sections. Verbrugge stated that Section I. "Eagan Airport
Relations Commission" would give a brief introduction of what the Commission does and suggested
that Mayor Awada and Chair Gladhill discuss the importance of recommendations made by the ARC
and a range of airport issues. It was suggested by Commission members to remind viewers of the group
of advocates working for the residents of Eagan and to further let them know this is an on -going
function of City of Eagan staff and Commission members. It was also suggested during this segment to
note organizations and groups which ARC members have participated in such as; MASAC, Cedarvale
redevelopment, Comprehensive Guide Plan, etc.
Section 11. "Eagan and MSP" would provide a historical perspective between Eagan and the
Minneapolis -St. Paul International Airport and a technical understanding of the Eagan/Mendota Heights
Corridor. Key people to speak could be Eagan's City Administrator Tom Hedges discussing the growth
of Eagan, former Mayor Tom Egan who served as President of N.O.I. S.E., and MAC Executive Director
Jeff Hamiel. Verbrugge suggested showing graphics of the Eagan/Mendota Heights Corridor, zoning
maps and also footage of airport construction and a MASAC meeting. Gladhill suggested including
information on the on -going membership /relationship the City has with N.O.I.S.E. and, further,
suggested showing a comparison between the growth at the airport and growth in the City of Eagan.
Soderling asked if we should use this message to talk about the Eagan/Mendota Heights Corridor.
Verbrugge stated we could show how Eagan has worked with the corridor for noise sensitive uses to
protect residents Gladhill stated it should be addressed that there are opponents to the corridor and also
stated we need to take into consideration issues like Northwest Airlines being headquartered in Eagan
and how sometimes that conflicts with recommendations. Staricha stated he especially liked the
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item on how the expanded Minneapolis /St. Paul International Airport will change the noise environment
of Eagan. Thorkildson suggested talking about the different types of aircraft and the work MASAC has
done.
Section III. "Noise and Noise Mitigation" would help to increase citizen understanding of how
noise is measured and explain programs that are in place to reduce noise. Verbrugge stated a key person
to speak on this section would be Chad Legve, MAC ANOMS Coordinator, who could talk on the
various towers and how they are used. Mr. Legve has been instrumental in implementing the sound
insulation program. Soderling stated we could show an aircraft flying over an ANOMS tower. Gladhill
suggested having a lay- person explain how DNL differs from a single noise event. Commission
members discussed issues the ARC has been instrumental in changing such as the sound insulating to
the 60 DNL and also additional ANOMS monitors. Staricha stated the program should play up the
evaluation and what can be done, while playing down the sound insulation program because it will only
affect a small number of residents.
Section IV. "FAR Part 150 Study Upgrade" will help explain the Part 150 Program and increase
citizen understanding of future operations. Verbrugge stated that Roy Fuhrmann would be key person to
speak and also John Nelson from the City of Bloomington. Verbrugge stated showing a graphic of the
existing baseline noise exposure map during this segment. It was suggested by Commission members to
let residents know what the recommendations of the Airport Relations Commission are and what the
City of Eagan has advocated. Verbrugge stated two goals of the program are 1.) to send a message that
we as a Commission are working cooperatively with MAC and other communities; and 2.) that some of
the issues don't seen to be in our favor right now, but this Commission is dedicated to working for the
Eagan residents. He further stated it is his intent to send a positive message to the public viewers.
Verbrugge stated the MAC Public Hearings on the Part 150 document will be November 8 and 9.
Section V. "How Will Noise Affect Me ?" will be on a personal nature. Verbrugge stated the
program could give a resident's perspective and talk about how the annoyance varies by individual.
Commission members also suggested using audio to illustrate a single noise event and also show
graphics of ANOMS locations, flight track maps and noise exposure maps.
Section VI. "The Future of Airport Noise." Verbrugge stated this section would discuss future
innovations and regulations. He suggested this section would discuss hushkitting vs. manufactured
aircraft, the difference and the shrinking of the contour. Verbrugge also gave the web site address
www.anoms.ay.org as a way to access information on ANOMS towers and locations. Commission
members discussed getting Congressman Oberstar to appear and speak and also to have additional
legislature do the same. Saffouri asked Verbrugge as to how long he felt this would be an active project.
Verbrugge stated the project would probably run one to two years. He further stated this program could
be shown to schools, Rotary and Chamber meetings.
PART 150 UPDATE
Verbrugge showed a Power Point presentation regarding the final recommendations to be
included in the Part 150 document:
• Runway 17 flight tracks
• Contour boundary definition
• Sound insulation priorities
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• Part 150 document schedule
➢ Draft document mailed to MASAC Operations Committee September 20
➢ MASAC Operations Committee briefing on September 22
➢ MASAC Part 150 comment meeting September 29
➢ Draft document published October 6
➢ Comment period for document closing November 15
MASAC UPDATE
Staricha stated the minutes of the most recent MASAC meeting held on Tuesday, August 22, are
enclosed in the packet and further stated these minutes are his opinion of that meeting. He also stated
the motion failed on the Low Demand Flight Tracks for Runway 17 -35.
TWIN CITIES AIRPORT TASK FORCE
Thorkildson gave a brief summary of the most recent TCATF meeting and discussed reliever
airports and the Part 161, stating the Part 161 is a more strict variation of the Part 150 Program.
INFORMATIVE
Verbrugge stated there was no news on the medical condition of the MAC Chairman Charles
Nichols.
Verbrugge gave a brief overview of Metropolitan Airports Commission Preliminary 2001 -2007
Capital Improvement Program. He also stated www.macaysat.org is the MAC's web site address and
discussed information to be found at that site.
ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion by Soderling, seconded by Thorkildson the Commission members adjourned the
meeting at 8:40 p.m.
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