09/19/1985 - Airport Relations Commission CITY OF EAGAN
AIRPORT NOISE COMMITTEE MEETING
AGENDA
THURSDAY
SEPTEMBER 19, 1985
4:30 P.M.
I. ROLL CALL
II. N.O.I.S.E. CONVENTION REPORT
- Mayor Bea Blomquist
- Councilmember Tom Egan
III. COMMITTEE UPDATE
- MAC Part 150 Study
- Airport Traffic Issues
- Metropolitan Tax for Stage III Incentives
- North Eagan Subdivisions
-180 Degree Heading Status
- Run -Up Suppressor
IV. OTHER BUSINESS
V. ADJOURNMENT
MEMO TO: CHAIRMAN BAKER & ALL MEMBERS OF THE AIRPORT NOISE
COMMITTEE
FROM: ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT HOHENSTEIN
DATE: SEPTEMBER 17, 1985
SUBJECT: AIRPORT NOISE COMMITTEE MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 19, 1985
A meeting of the Airport Noise Committee is scheduled for
Thursday, September 19, 1985, at 4:30 p.m. The meeting will be
held in Conference Rooms A and B of the Municipal Center
Building. The following discussion is intended to provide
background on those items to be reviewed at the meeting on
Thursday.
MINUTES
As a quorum was not present for the June 27, 1985, meeting, no
official action was taken and no minutes were kept. For this
reason, minutes of the Airport Noise Committee Meeting for April
18, 1985, were not adopted. These minutes are enclosed for your
review. These minutes, subject to any change, require adoption
by the committee.
N.O.I.S.E. CONVENTION REPORT
Mayor Bea Blomquist and Councilmember Tom Egan attended the
convention of the National Organization to Insure a Sound -
controlled Environment (N.O.I.S.E.) on July 25 through the 27th
in Sparks, Nevada. These two officials will be on hand to
discuss their experience with the committee and to explain how
concepts described at the convention may be applied to the
airport noise situation in Eagan. Mayor Blomquist and
Councilmember Egan will be able to address issues concerning both
aircraft equipment and sound abatement procedures.
COMMITTEE UPDATE
Metropolitan Airports Committee Part 150 Study
At the August 27, 1985, MASAC meeting, Howard - Needles, the
commission's noise consultant, introduced the Part 150 land use
compatibility study. The completion of this study will allow the
airports commission to designate specific needs as a basis for
federal assistance in dealing with noise abatement activities.
To help the consultant to better apply the study to the
conditions surrounding airports, MASAC requested that surrounding
communities provide input to them before the September 24, 1985,
meeting.
The first area in which MASAC would like community involvement is
in the definition of Environmental Capacity. As you know, this
concept is being considered by various public officials as a
means of limiting sound impacts on residential neighborhoods.
Simply put, the concept of environmental capacity is intended to
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establish a level of sound over a duration of time above which
aircraft would be in violation of the environmental capacity
standard. Officials hope that aircraft could be prevented from
surpassing this standard through some control mechanism.
However, the standard itself is difficult to define. Therefore,
MASAC requests that individuals and communities forward to them
any definition of environmental capacity which they feel best
encompasses the concept.
The second area in which MASAC requests input is that of
abatement procedures. MASAC would like individuals and
communities to suggest any possible air traffic procedures or
departure and arrival procedures which would have the effect of
abating aircraft - generated noise. This would include such items
as the review of departure paths over the Minnesota River valley
to avoid residential areas, but they may be as simple as closer
attention to field rules and approved departure corridors to
minimize adverse affects due to poor management of current
procedures. MASAC is willing to forward any suggestion to
Howard - Needles at this time. Therefore, the City is afforded an
opportunity to make various suggestions at one time.
ACTION TO BE CONSIDERED ON THIS MATTER: To prepare and adopt a
definition of environmental capacity and /or to prepare and adopt
a list of sound abatement procedures to be forwarded to MASAC as
part of the Part 150 land use compatability study.
Airport Traffic Issues
Metropolitan Tax for Stage 3 Incentives
At the August 27, 1985, MASAC meeting, Jan DelCalzo discussed her
proposal for a metropolitan tax to provide air carriers with
incentives to purchase stage 3 aircraft. Her premises for
putting forward this suggestion were that the resources be
generated where the greatest benefit would occur and that the
solution be at the source of the problem, namely noisy stage 2
aircraft. She pointed out that the third of a mill additional
tax would amount to $5 per year on a $80,000 home.
There was substantial opposition from the audience to this
proposal and Commissioner DelCalzo admitted that she did not
expect the proposal to be implemented, but appreciated the debate
it generated for the fact that alternatives to her proposal had
been suggested. She also argued that source alternatives are the
best near term solution to sound problems because both the
construction of a new airport and the private acquisition of
stage 3 aircraft will occur over a 15 -year time period.
While no action is necessary on this particular item, the
Committee may wish to discuss the concepts which it raises.
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North Eagan Subdivisions
At the June 27, 1985, Airport Noise Committee meeting, the
concept of providing targeted relief to the residential
subdivisions of northern Eagan was proposed. In particular, the
McKee Addition is a traditional recipient of a substantial amount
of the airport noise. It has received an even greater volume of
air traffic noise during the recent summer months due to the
increased volume of airport traffic. An additional burden to
this area lies in the fact that it is not spared significant
noise impacts, even when the departure corridor is well observed.
Therefore, a local resident has proposed that alternatives be
investigated which would encourage the conversion of certain
traditional residential properties to their industrial
designation as is indicated on the City's comprehensive land use
guide plan.
One of the alternatives in this area is to provide tax increment
financing to purchase affected homes or to encourage a private
developer to purchase, raze, and redevelop such an area. Because
of the sensitive nature of proposing public financing to relieve
specific residential neighborhoods, it is important that the
committee seriously consider and investigate such a suggestion
before recommending its implementation.
The committee should be aware that the City Council agreed to tax
increment financing at the time of the race track competition.
The Council has indicated that that may have been a one -time
decision. It may not be approved in the future.
ACTION TO BE CONSIDERED ON THIS MATTER: To approve or deny a
recommendation to pursue an investigation of the City financing
alternatives for northern Eagan subdivisions affected by airport
noise.
180 Degree Heading Status
The Metropolitan Airports Commission recommendation that the 180
degree heading procedure be implemented has not yet been
forwarded to Mr. Les Case of the Federal Aviation Administration.
As you will recall, the recommendation approved by the Airports
Commission included the elimination of the 200 degree heading and
its replacement with the 180 degree heading. It further included
recommendation that a full environmental impact statement be
completed before the procedure would be adopted. These two
conditions have caused Mr. Case to be less enthusiastic about the
implementation of the procedure. Staff concludes that Mr. Case
is reluctant to accept the recommendation because it gives his
controllers no more departure corridors than they currently have
and it requires the time and expense of the environmental impact
study. He is free to implement the procedure without reference
to either condition, but this is likely to be an area in which we
could exert influence through our representative, Mr. Frenzel.
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The 180 degree heading controversy has softened significantly
since the increase in air traffic volume has resulted in the
almost exclusive use of the parallel runways. The preferential
runway system which includes the runway 22 departures is used
less than a few hours per day, according to Mr. Case. Staff will
continue to monitor the status of the procedure recommendations.
No action on this item is necessary on the part of the committee
at this time.
Run -up Suppressor
At the July 23, 1985, meeting of the Metropolitan Airports
Commission, a proposal to prepare a response to the Minnesota
Pollution Control Agency concerning the run -up noise suppressor
was discussed. The feeling of the commission seemed to be that
the cost of the suppressor was not justified by the number of
complaints received on run -ups. MAC staff was therefore directed
to develop a response which would address the costs and benefits
of the suppressor and the alternatives to its construction.
Staff is unaware of any further action on this particular item.
It should be noted, however, that the presence of this issue on
the MAC agenda was brought about by the actions of this committee
to bring the state attorney general and the Minnesota Pollution
Control Agency to bear on the airports commission. Staff will
continue to monitor developments in this area. While no action
is necessary on this item, the committee may wish to discuss a
potential response to the airport commission's position on this
matter.
Aynis rative Assistan
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cc: Tom Hedges, City Administrator
Dale Runkle, City Planner
Paul Hauge, City Attorney
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MINUTES OF THE EAGAN AIRPORT NOISE COMMITTEE
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
APRIL 18, 1985
The Eagan Airport Noise Committee met at the City Hall on April 18, 1985
at 4:30 p.m. Those present were Chairman Tom Baker, Members Carol DeZois, Joe
Harrison and John Gustin. Also present were City Councilmember Tom Egan, and
Guest Carolyn Braun; also Dr. David Braslau, Dave Kelso of the MPCA, City
Administrator Hedges, Administrative Intern John Hohenstein, City Planner Dale
Runkle, and City Attorney Paul Hauge.
Chairman Tom Baker chaired the meeting.
MINUTES
John Gustin moved, Joe Harrison seconded the motion to approve the minutes
of the previous meeting. All voted yes.
DAVID BRASLAU - PRESENTATION
Tom Hedges introduced Dr. David Braslau of David Braslau Associates, Inc.,
who was formerly a professor at the University of Minnesota in geophysics and
has acted as an expert dealing with noise issues throughout the area,
• including the Metropolitan Airports Commission. Dr. Braslau reviewed several
reports, including one that he was commissioned by the MAC to present in 1977.
He showed some transparencies with aircraft noise impact facing specific
directions relating to run -ups on the Wold Chamberlain site. Run -ups
technically are permitted only at heading 290 ° , according to regulation. He
stated that the reason for the location selected for run -ups was because it
was the only place where there was runway clearance and there is clearly a
need for sufficient clearance.
He reviewed several types of suppressers used at different airport
locations around the world and noted that a suppresser is a muffler at the
rear portion of an aircraft. He mentioned that it was hard to determine which
methods worked, including the suppressers and mufflers because the users
usually said no and the airport operators were favorable. He stated that
berming would be required to be 30 to 40 feet high and the plane would have to
be very close to the berm to be effective. He also thought that airlines are
generally using the suppressers with mufflers and also there is a need to
shield intake noise to be effective. More up -to -date aircraft have smaller
noise impact areas and it was his opinion that mufflers or hush - houses are the
most effective suppressants. Mufflers cost about $250,000.00 in 1977. JT -8
and JT -9 type engines, including the 729, require the most run -ups. New
engines have built -in monitors. Wind direction including volicity, is
important and these factors differ from one location to another, and change
regularly.
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The MAC has positioned microphones around the run -up pads at certain
threshholds and noise triggers the microphones to computers, but he noted that
other noises also trigger the microphones and felt that cameras are important
to monitor the run -up noise. Dave Kelso who was also present, stated that it
is possible to monitor run -ups that are recorded.
In 1976 the Air Development Act required noise suppresser equipment. Mr.
Kelso stated that there is noise suppression money available but local FAA and
airport officials do not work together to acquire the funds. The MAC view is
that the suppressers may not do much to reduce noise, but field rules or
procedural methods have been adopted to reduce noise. Cost and the
complications, however, deter purchase of necessary equipment. Also,
different sized airplanes require different types of suppresser equipment.
A Noise Suppresser Equipment Plan has not been submitted to the PCA by
MAC, it was noted. The PCA has been asked to sue MAC many times and the PCA
has turned the issue over to the office of the attorney general. The PCA has
outlined the history of the suppresser legislation and has started informal
enforcement, requesting what MAC's intentions are. If there is no action, it
will be brought to the PCA Board and then on to the OAG office. Field rules
require the airlines to report each run -up but there is some uncertainty as to
compliance. The real issue is which agency has jurisdiction.
The PCA now feels it may have to go to Court in order to force the run -up
regulations according to Mr. Kelso. Dr. Braslau stated that if the field
rules are developed and enforced properly, they could be effective. He
mentioned that it may now cost $50,000,000.00 to build an adequate suppresser
capable of servicing all aircraft. The PCA would like to jointly stipulate to
enforcement of the field rules and then provide for enforcement through the
OAG.
Dave Kelso stated that the history of the suppreser legislation started in
1976 and the deadline for submitting the plans has been moved up by the
Legislature several times. Representative Wes Skoglund did not accept MAC's
reason for extension of time and Mr. Skoglund wasn't willing to compromise to
extend the deadline date past March 1, 1985. He has indicated that possibly
the only way to effectively do it is to get the area residents' support and
become more aggressive.
The PCA will conduct public hearings as a result of a Petition from the
south Minneapolis residents regarding noise guidelines. Dr. Braslau also felt
that the MAC can do much to collect information but is not doing an adequate
job at the present time.
MASAC MEETINGS
It was noted the MASAC Operations Committee has acted in favor of the 180
degree turn and that MASAC will act at its regular meeting on April 23, 1985
on the Operation Committee's recommendation. There was also discussion as to
whether the 180 degree turn would require an EIS and Mr. Kelso stated that
because the FAA has jurisdiction over aircraft after leaving the ground, only
the Federal EIS would come into play. The FAA, however, does not want
liability regarding this type of issue and FAA has stated that it will not
require an EIS on the 180 degree turn.
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STATUS OF ANNUAL NOISE ABATEMENT PLAN
The PCA has reacted to MAC's report but there has been no reply from MAC,
and Mr. Kelso stated there has been no substantive change by MAC regarding the
plan.
AIRPORT FREQUENCIES
The following frequencies are available for specific purposes: 126.7- -
Control Tower; 121.9 -- Ground Control; 135.35 -- General Information.
NOVEMBER 20, 1984 & MARCH 19, 1985 RESOLUTIONS
John Hohenstein reported for Tom Hedges that Daryl Westlander had called
in response to Tom Hedges' last letter of March 19, and indicated that MAC
will submit an answer.
NOISE COMMITTEE MEMBERS
There was discussion concerning status of members of the Noise Committee
and Mr. Harrison suggested that the City Council eliminate non - active members
• and elect new members that are willing to be active on the Committee. It was
further suggested that the non - active members be dropped from the Committee if
they are not interested and able to be present at the meetings. Harrison
moved, Gustin seconded the motion to recommend Carolyn Braun be appointed by
the Council as a member of the Noise Committee. All members voted yes.
NEXT MEETING
No specific date was set for the next meeting and the staff will contact
the Noise Committee members regarding the meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion duly made and seconded, the motion was adjourned at 7:10 p.m.
All voted in favor.
PHH
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