05/09/1974 - Advisory Parks & Recreation Commission
EAGAN PARK COTITMI 1'EE
Eagan City Hall May 9, 1974
Members Aboen-t s Jw:i Cal].nnius , Chuck Hail
Also Pre:3::zi-. Wacl ter, Paul Hauge, Bohn Voss, Bob Rosene, Joisl Natwick,
Dr. Bristol., Ed Dunn, Howard Kyllo and ChU. k S.loclZi
Tire meati t.; was chaired by Barbara Schmidt, Fay Cooper moved and Neil
Con.t 5ss~~r;r_dsd a motion that the minutes be approved as mailed. All mamb=3
voted :iii f aE'or,
A f'lrtAI)er di- .~ussion of park dedication policies was' hel:.d. A memo from
Pwal Ha.a. ;e made several recommendations including that land for prirmx-y trails
b:: aequired 1n the form of easements rather than fee tit; e ~.lyd that
50% crud;.;; be given for land on which there is already a public or private easr.-
m(e i. , 13ol7 Rosene Suggested that we accept only that past of the easement; whiun
`~'e .w^~'i~' t °d.• It v-a3 recommended by the cormmittee that the mvilicipa l:;.ty con!,`d? r
r• Calestiilg 'surface rights over municipal easements but that the use be rest.-,r .cted
to trails a:r,-d re latec' recreational facilities, Myrel Lund.sten moved and Neil
Coat;es seconded a mob icn that John and Paul's recommendations be Isalle i together
and that ti,ey be submitted to the council. All members voted in :7()r.
Mr. Ed. Duen appeared, to discuss the concept plan for Lexington Southp a
1 1 acre dc. ~;;"t.uzj,.ient in the area of Lexington Avenue, Yankee Dordl.e Ro?d aad
ClH_:f Road. "r. Dunll gave a resume of plans for the area and irciics.t^d t'~at
there would be 1001 public easements around the lakes where lie e ;n trots
access. K-. T~-inn also talked about a trail eys tem throughout hi.; des reJ opri;,,; r,
wh_.ch would i..,:-L,ude 15•x- acres other thail the N.S.P. easement which he also nrc.
pesos tc: d=;Yica,'te. He proposes to dedicate a total of 195 acres, inclt:d:in ; ?a7 kg
and lakes, but he was unable to estimate what portion of this acreage vaas ~ider-
Bawatcj' • W gi)12 Voss indicated he had discussed plans with n . Dunn and he fe]_t
that the paY-lk ocami.t;tee should take a good look at what uses and Iroa,,poses we
..iol,' a pr,•pose for tie trail system and that specific park sites e:,u•±.d n^t be
det,~ ~,,-in ied until the neighborhoods started fo._,liing. Mr. Dunn in.dic~a.te I that
his pr pos,a had a probable -timetable of 15 years and that single "aanily dw.a'.-
rgs wculd. b::- constructed .first. Lexington South will eventually hQuse a ,,ut
1 b, 000 Tjool,i..^ . `.(red Wachter commented -that he felt that the plan i~,a,s good and the
^crniwi.tr,ee ;'.e idtd to express their general agreement with the concept pla_1. John
Voss ivas r,~qa}as`;e.d to make a t,ri-tterl report to the council regarding his findings,
P~Lr. C:n_ick ~ilocum app~aared on behalf of the Un.-isource Corporation to review
the proposed park dedication. or that part of 11111ission hills lying North of. ('w i
Foad, John Voss recocrmend"d that a, rieighbcrbood earl: ar_d pcn ersa of 13,8 acres
-Located east of tLe present park on I -Oui Road be 6.,Ddicated. He also suggestLid
that - i7a consider tabu ~ 3a3 i':il-ity of obtaining an undcrpa33 conne'et:i(yu for lao
system o-c-r ge, Rahn Road. Bob Ro3one estimated that a
b~- c rt
rou.ld cost abo--ut ~'_':J, 000. Mr. Slonwii indicated that land for prl.tiia:•y tr,1l
eledication vdou.ld be wbcut 19.09 acres. He requested that he be able to make a
e?jh dcnauioa for 1.3-o-e part of Mission Hills which lies South of Cl:.ff Road, 't
was recomolnnd-d tha i the proposed park -.nd trails be aecepted with the und.e.r.,3 t?nd•-
ing that more det-a:ilect_ ca,"LOulatiens be made to see if any additional da. ah
le re7c,.;_red. An additional review of the continuity between primary and seoo.ad. ary
tr;,i]-s w_il.l be acne later. Myrel Luiadsten Moved and Neil Cotes Seconded a mcticw
that a, 1, 'itten agreerieait be drawn specif- L'rg timing of the dedication and ad:li-
ticiwFl pa-yment,y if nec,;~&-2a.ry 9 the specific location of primary and secondary
trails and that the calculations of the dedications be done according to policy
guidel::unes as d:issoseed at the meeting,, All members voted in favor.
111r. ao Tard Ky J.lo appeared to discuss the proposed dedication of park
property in Riv^r Hills 9th Addition. Mr. Kyllo stated that they had .wt been
able to redraw lot lines to include the center four acres and that he felt that
the area should either be used as park or as a common green belonging to home-
ownero asioc,iation. NO. Kyllo reviewed the drainage plans indicating; that the
foss acre area vTould contain two catch basins but that any water collecti.cn
should disai._poor within 24 hours. There have been no soil borings of this area.
yzt.
Uhn Was Pecommended that no credit be given for the 4.18 acre pardin
area and that i ; not be accepted as a park until grading, seeding and park im-
provement specifications as determined by the engineer and planner are met.
Jo:-t h.ad no position as to whether we should attempt to develop a trail on Gut-•
A and .r which will be deeded to city or where a sidewalk should be located,
Niyrel L,u ds"t;en moved and Neil Coates seconded a motion that we acnept w:i.thoi t
crsd'-t tho 4.18 acres as a ponding area but that it not be accepted as a. park
until it r neis Grading, seeding and park improvement specifications as determined
by village conaultants. The 3.23 acre N.S.P. easement would be given 50Z credit
mn_.kinE a dedication of 1.6 acres provided that the easement would be graded to
trail une spo;;irications. The additional 2.1 acre dedication as required from
t-h.- 37 acre cle"n opement would be given on the basis of raw land value and rzate
up either in cash or park facilities. Objections to the proposed dedi.eciVoki
were that the area was smaller than neighborhood park standards and iha , t woLO i!
be di_rficult to maintain. The motion was passed on a 4-3 vote with Dale Evetacn,
Dtnc, l Lundj-te_i said Gerber Hatteberg voting no.
Paul Lhu.ge reported that the two appraisals were complete on the Martin
Shia lds property. It was recommended that the park committee ask the council to
. oziz^ Paul a ad Chuck. Hall to begin negotiations using the av~:;:,~aga of the "two
:i'lzoywo and that they negotAate with the hopes of obtaining the maximum amount
of land by d_ dica,tion.
1-3ob :`icc,-ne e>ta"ced t.aat the contractor would begin to seed at Red--, on Monday
and also i _ s°:in to grade at McKee early" next week. Barb Schmidt was to see about
tee possih lit of obtaining a better quality of black dirt for use on the ball
field and hockey rink at McKee
.
the ball diamonds at Rahn have been staked according to Jail Ca,llenius i lay-
out.' Ag•-lime will be delivered next Monday and the con trootor will -then do th6
fine grading, Dob Rosen.e will check to ace if tle back.s-top3 are staked.
Barn Schmidt moved and Myrel Lund.ten seconded a motion that tha1
we buy 3 KYi.on
tennis noic 1/i price from Crawley fence and store the metal fees until I`ond--,
ad. All membenc voted Ill favor.
Bob Rosene will -talk with Jim Frisbee abo t obtaining a 70 x 2101 triangular
peice of proposed park land in Oak Chase in order that the road may be eurnc,l
to pre-vent the remo?al of a large hill covered with Oak trees which is l.ocatod
on the site of Cantezbury Acres. The park committee was in agreement with the
idea unle3s it takes land planned for a tennis court. Bob Rosene will also
finalize the park dedication with Jim Frisbee.
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Axmi e Carlson presented the deed for Ev-ergrean Fart/ on Maas 7-e,r and Jo'_Zn
1\TatvyirIz of TT_°ban >.Ia.Tilirg brought a prope,,ed park plan for the Jui:L des-
cribed a to-r area, consisting; of two separx. e pond ar as which are not connected
at this time. He felt it would be desirable to have them connected so that 'ails
surface water as well as part of one pond could be drained. A resid^nt of Ever---
green Par': present in -the audience indicated tr.at he had seen drain tiles rear
a drainage ditch and that Mr. Carlson may already be planning to drain part of
the Tv.ater. Dob Rosenne will talk to Mr. Carlson about any plan, for connecting
and or draining the ponds. He will also check to see what typq base is under
tj_. present ter]-is court to see if it should or could be upgraded. Jc4m is pro.-
i.,osa.l fcr the Pa k. included a 2651 ballfield and a major play ax•ea.
Barb Schmidt told the committee that Greg Franzen has been hired and wi1.1
begin work May 20th as part-time utility man and part-time program director..
Dale di8C93ed three proposed bids on a truck and it was decided that he an-3.
Greg would investigate them further.
A written recreation report prepared by Jan Callenius was presented next.
She a e or.:!n :;cc:ed. that we consider placing the basketball backboards on the ends
of the proposed all-purpose court at Rahn making it a full basketloa.ll court. No
was reached. The question was also raised whether or not the park
committee should lray socc~ar end posts for use on school property. A coi~ser..sus
was r'ea.ohed -thF.t the park committee should pay only for equipment .1ocated on park
property.
Dale F,%-.Prson moved and Carolyn Thurston seconded a motion that we not ccn--
sider C.A.A.'s proposal that we build a 24 x 32t sussel garage on park Froter-r.*
to store t -ei.r equipment because it would be difficult to make -th type of bu:'lda
a oecure and because of alternative building plans of the pail; committee.
Three young people will be available to work in Eagan under a summer. pro•-
g_:cwm f,:nded through the county. A supervisor will also be hired at >>,,50 an
uur,
`1/1- :re'_ T, -,.rids-r, n moved and Neil Coates seconded a motion that we r ecornrrend
to tho --hat the $4,250 bid by IU.dwest for four backstops be accept=ed.
-cn D:ackus ha3 agreed to buy ;648 of trees to be planted as a bo f er•-sor•een
u~.'eg aa_d Jim wi.11 rent t e tree spade £rum tiie count; to plain;, them,
Barb Schmitt requested that we consider the use of hcckey r: rka as a rid_ n".;
arena for horses in the summer. All ,lembc:rs agreed.
Da.l E'v~__~son gave some estimates on the cost of a combination ice areas,,
sw-; o.,rJ'_np pool ~,nd a cc~x :rul~.it~T building, A "249000 sq. foot ice arena, a deck err'
a 50 ;.ictcr.• puo? a:;ald cast about 1--6 million. Also included in this
wci J..(7 be a co,.Lrru 1:;. ;center consisting of a junior high gyre, one 1. 2-ge r . i c :e
s,nall. meeting rooal, Dale investigated the possibility of the Y.M.EA. mana,~;:ing
the building as they do in other areas. Dale also consulted with Jim Clsc_ .Li o
;_n,dicated that Eagan had the bonding capacity for a project of this size at
this tine. Dale will discuss the plan further with council members,,
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Barb S,-rmidt mo-1;ed and Neil Coates seconded a motion that we ^ccommend
payments of John Vcss' bill. Barb Schm_;.dt and. Paul Ha ge w.'Ll.l meet Friday with
H.U.D. offi^als„
Ken Walsted has obtained several incandescent street lights. No decision
was made about how the park committee could use them.
'J'ie Jay Cee's have recommended that we have a park progress sign on display
i~. Cedarvale. John Voss will prepare an additional sign for this purpose.
A c1iseussion was held about whether to conduct a summer recreational proFvam
at Vie e'_.eriie.ztary schools but a decision was delayed until more information is
obtained about the various summer programs being planned by the school.
Tii.e poosibil--Lty of providing tennis instruction at neighborhood parks was
a,lco discussed.
The mE~eting was adjourned.
Respectfully Submitted,
Myrel Lundsten, Secretary
Eagan, Park Committee
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