07/10/1980 - Advisory Parks & Recreation Commission (2)
C r SUB.iECT TO APPROVAL
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EAGAN ADVISORY PARK COMMITTEE
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Eagan, Minnesota
JULY 10,1980
A regular meeting of the Eagan. Advisory Park Committee
was held on July 10, 1980, at the Eagan, City Hall. Those
present were Committee Members: Carroll, Loken, Radl,
McNeely, Martin, Johnson, and Tilley. Also present were
Parks and Recreation Director Vraa, City Administrator
Hedges, and City Planner Runkle. The Committee Members
Pettit and Thomas were absent.
MINUTES
There being no corrections to the minutes, -McNeely moved
and Loken seconded with all members voting in favor to
approve the minutes of the June 5, 1980, Park Advisory
Committee Meeting.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Chairman Martin asked that a discussion regarding the patroling
of parks be added to old business. Committee Tilley stated
that she has recieved a request from residents in the South
Oaks Addition to construct a kick board for soccer use at
South Oaks Park and requesting time under new business
to discuss the proposal by the residents.
THOMAS - HIGHLINE TRAIL
Parks and Recreation Director Vraa stated that the City
Council at their July 1, 1980 meeting continued consideration
to approve plans and specifications for Improvement
80-23, the Highline Trail between Nicols Rd. and Blackhawk
Rd., until the appropriate revision was incorporated showing
the alignment of a proposed future snow mobile trail.
It was further explained that the City Council still supports
the original direction provided in January, 1980, to allow
right-of-way within the 200 foot easement for a snowmobile/
horse trail which could be constructed at some future date.
Consulting Engineer Bob Rosene stated that there are no
changes required to the plans west of Rahn Road; however
it is necessary to change the plans and specifications
for the proposed bike trail between Rahn Road and Blackhawk
Road to allow for future construction of a snowmobile /horse
trail. He then explained with the new plans, there will be
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adequate space within the 200 foot highline easement to
construct a snowmobile/horse trail in the future on the
south side of the bicycle trail. Committee members expressed
concern about relocating the trail across one of the small
ponds for fear of flooding in the spring months. There
was consideration for a bridge and was finally determined
that the trail should be constructed higher than the high
water level recorded for those ponds to date. There was
also concern about enforcement of horses using the designated
trail in the Highline easement right-of-way. Parks and
Recreation Director Vraa stated that he has been working
with Mr. Maynard Olm of the Snowmobile Association to coordi-
nate the plans of the Advisory Park Committee and City
Council regarding the proposed joint use of a Bicycle Trail/
Cross Country Sking and Snowmobile/Horse trail within the
Highline Trail easement right of way. Mr. Olm is responsive
to using Shale Ln. from Nicols Road to Rahn Road and then
directly tying in with the Highline Trail at the Shale
Ln. Rahn Road intersection as apposed to traveling through
the park and then north on Rahn Road to tie in with the
Highline Trail. After further consideration, and in a
motion by Committee Member Carroll, seconded by Committee
Member Tilley, with all members voting in favor, the plans
and specifications as revised where approved, conditional
upon establishing the level of the pond higher than the
recorded high water level of the adjoining ponds and also
that a colvert be constructed under the trail to equalize
the water level of the two adjoining ponds.
TWIN VIEW MANOR 2ND ADDITION
City Planner Runkle reviewed the preliminary plat for Twin
that no ark dedication
View Manor 2nd Addition stating
is required for this proposed plat, because this plat is
a repTat less lots that were originally platted. He further
stated that the park dedication policy of the City does
not require dedication or cash donation for develoP-
ark land park
ments that are replatted unless there are a greater number
of lots created by the replat. There is no action required
on this matter.
JOYCE ADDITION
City Planner Runkle reviewed the proposed preliminary plat
for Joyce Addition stating that said preliminary plat consists
of approximately 8.3 acres and contains two Commercial
lots, 8 duplex lots, 4 buildings and 7 Single Family lots.
Because of the size of the proposed plat and the proposed
park deveto ment plans. as called for in the Comprehensive
Guide Plan it is the recommendation of the City staff that
a cash donation be offered to satisfy park land dedication
A motion by Committee
requirements for Joyce Addition.
Radl, seconded by Committee Member Loken with all members
votin in favor cash in lieu of park land dedication for
all lots platted in the Joyce Addition was approved as
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recommended by the staff to the City Council for further
consideration.
RAHN PARK-ACQUISITION '!.L.A.W.C.O.N. FUNDING"
Park and Recreation Director Vraa reviewed the status of
a LAWCON grant application submitted to the State Planning
Agency and Metropolitan Council in the amount of $200,000
for the purchase of 20 acres of land from the St. Paul
Land Resources Inc. for expansion of Rahn Park. He stated
that the City was originally ranked 4th and it was anticipated
that the full amount of the grant award would be made however
Metro Parks and Open Space Commission has recently dropped
the Cities application to 5th and this could lower the
amount of grant funds to be received by the City. Park
and Recreation Vraa stated that he would keep the Advisory
Park Committee informed as to any changes in the status
of the Locon Grant application for the expansion of Rahn
Park.
NAMING OF PARKS
Committee Member Johnson reported on the findings of the
subcommittee that investigated the criteria for naming
of parks. He stated that the Advisory Park Committee subcom-
mittee appointed for the purpose of establishing criteria
for the naming of parks within the City has met and is
recommending the attached as prepared by the Park and Recrea-
tion Director as guidelines to be considered when officially
naming parks within the City. After a brief discussion
on the matter a motion was offered by Committee Member
Johnson seconded by Committee Member McNeely, with all
members voting in favor that the guidelines for naming
parks within the City as recommended by the subcommittee
and Park and Recreation Director be adopted and recommended
to the City Council.
PARK SIGNS
Committee Member Tilley reported on the subcommittees findings
regarding criteria for making park identification signs.
She stated that members on the subcommittee along with
input from the Director of Park and Recreation established the
following list:
1) the sign must be easy to read and aesthetically
pleasing
2) well built, sturdy and long lasting
3) inexpensive to maintain
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4) some degree of originaltiy in the sign
5) sign should blend into the Park, becoming an element
of the total park design
6) the sign should be natural and avoid "mix of materi-
als" in the construction
7) the introduction of the City's logo on the sign
as a means of identification with the City of Eagan and
as a park in Eagan Park system
Committee Member Tilley further stated that the subcommittee
- concluded- its effort ---with----a--discussion o€-t-he--A-gni€-icance-
of a park sign and the importance of developing' a sign
that will reflect the rule of parks in the community.
Director of Parks and Recreation Vraa spoke about the type
of wood that is best for constructing park signs stating
weathering and the least amount of maintenance should be
considered in selection of materials. Shrubs, trees and
other plantings were also discussed by Committee members
to be used as background around the signs. There was no
formal action taken on this matter however the Director
of Parks and Recreation was asked to contact a landscape
architect to prepare some drawings for park signs at a
cost not to exceed the budget.
TREE REMOVAL
Director of Parks and Recreation Vraa stated that the Park
Department has received a number of requests from residents
asking for permission to remove dead trees from City Park
land to be used as fire wood. He stated that a policy
and procedure needs to be developed to handle these requests
if it is determined that the public should be allowed this
privilage. A procedural outline as prepared by the Director
of Parks and Recreation was then reviewed and established
as a policy of the removal of dead trees by residents for
fire wood or other proper use within City Park land. The
procedural use is as follows:
1) request for a specific tree (s) is reported or is no=
ticed by staff
2) .City Forester to make inspection and determination
for cause as well as to ensure that the tree is on park
property
3) Forester and Director of Parks and Recreation
to make determination if tree should be removed
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4) tree marked for removal, notification that tree
will be made available for firewood
5) permits issued, at office, for disignated tree
(s). A five dollar permit is required.
6) City crews to drop tree (s)
7) resident is allowed 7 days to cut up and remove
tree
8) City staff inspection to insure clean up and removal
has been completed.
Chairperson Martin stated that the policy as prepared by
the Parks and Recreation was well prepared and asked for
consideration from the Advisory Park Committee on the proposal.
City Member Carroll stated that he was supportive of the
policy however emphasized that some dead trees remain in
Park land to serve the various wildlife purposes. After
further consideration on the matter and in a motion by
Committee Member Carroll seconded by Committee Member Radl
with all members voting in favor the tree removal policy
as presented by Director of Parks and Recreation was approved
and recommended to the City Council.
PATROLLING OF PARKS
Chairman Martin suggested that additional patrolling be
provided by Police Department for the trails and other
park land that is not accessible for patrolling with police
patrol cars. City Administrator Hedges stated that the
Police Department is using bicycles for patrolling and
it maybe possible to expand this use into the trailways
as well as some park areas. He also stated that the Police
Department is planning to provide for additional patrolling
of park land as suggested by Chairman Martin.
C.I.P.
Director of Parks and Recreation Vraa stated that the Capital
Improvements °rogram was, completed and has been presented
to the City Administrator for review before it goes before
the City Council for consideration and adoption. Members
of the Park Advisory Committee were given summary sheets
of the C.I.P. proposal as written and presented by the
Director of Parks and Recreation. There was no action
taken on.this matter.
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SOUTH OAKS PARK
Committe Member Tilley stated that she has received a request
from property owners in the South Oaks Addition asking
that the City construct a soccer kick board in the South
Oaks Park Parks and Recreation Director Vraa discussed
his concern for a wood backboard stating that the purpose
of the park should be examined before further consideration
is given as to whether a soccer kick board is the right
element for that park. He stated that the cost for a soccer
kick board is estimated at $200 and is used as a practice
devise. There was discussion regarding potential liability
and maintenance of the soccer kick board. There was also
discussion as to whether soccer kick board should be installed
in the park on a trial basis. Park and Recreation Director
was asked to contact John McCarthy, a resident of the South
Oaks Addition and also Mr. Gilland of Rosemount High School,
the Rosemount High School Soccer Coach to determine the
use and cost of a soccer kick board. This matter is to
be placed on the August 7, 1980 Advisory Park Committee
Agenda.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned
at 9:45 p.m.
Dated: July 10, 1980 TLH
visory Park Committee ecretary