10/11/2005 - Airport Relations CommissionMINUTES OF THE EAGAN
AIRPORT RELATIONS COMMISSION MEETING
OCTOBER 11, 2005
A regular meeting of the Eagan Airport Relations Commission was held on Tuesday, October 11,
2005 at 7:00 p.m. Those present were Curtis Aljets, Valerie Dosland, Dean Haehnel, Tammy Mencel, Jack
Prentice and Charles Thorkildson. Absent were Jason Bonnett, Daniel Flanagan, Nathan Krahn and Steve
Nierengarten. Also present was Dianne Miller, Assistant to the City Administrator.
AGENDA
Upon motion by Haehnel; seconded by Aljets, the agenda was approved as presented. All members
voted in favor.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Haehnel made a motion to approve the minutes of the September 12, 2005 regular meeting of the
Airport Relations Commission; Aljets seconded the motion. All members voted in favor.
VISITORS TO BE HEARD
There were no visitors to be heard.
COMMUNICATION SUBCOMMITTEES
Miller introduced the item noting this item is placed monthly on the agenda for Commission
members and subcommittees to discuss, comment, and make recommendations to City staff and the Eagan
City Council. Miller noted in the next edition of the Experience Eagan newsletter, there will be an article
regarding MAC hosting their quarterly public input meeting at the Eagan Community Center on November
10, 2005. She also stated a piece regarding the opening of Runway 17 -35 will be shown on Cable TV.
Thorkildson also suggested having information on Cable TV regarding the November 10, 2005 public input
meeting.
EAGAN /MENDOTA HEIGHTS CORRIDOR ANALYSIS
Miller introduced the item stating the enclosed August 2005 Eagan/Mendota Heights Corridor
Analysis and August 2005 Technical Advisory Report are the most recent reports available on MAC's
website and, further, stated these reports are included each month for the Commission to review and
discuss any significant deviations or issues that have occurred. Miller stated that starting in December the
Runway 17 -35 Advisory Reports should also be available for review.
Miller noted that per the direction of the ARC, she contacted MAC staff and Cindy Green, FAA
Tower Operations Manager, regarding an alleged corridor excursion that routinely takes place at
approximately 6:00 a.m. over the Highview neighborhood in Eagan. Miller noted that the Metropolitan
Airports Commission responded by saying that none of the 53 operations recorded from August 1 to
September 12 from 5:00 a.m. to 7:00 a.m. were outside the corridor. Miller added that according to the
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MAC, a possible explanation to the complaint is that the intersection of Pilot Knob and Highview Avenue
is approximately 1,000 feet south of the corridor, and at that hour, even a plane inside the corridor would be
audible to the Highview neighborhood.
CITY COMMUNICATIONS PLANS FOLLOWING THE OPENING OF RUNWAY 17 -35
Miller introduced the item stating a sunnmary of the connnunication initiatives outlined by the
Connnission at the September 12, 2005 ARC meeting was presented to the City Council at their September
20, 2005 Council meeting. Miller stated the City Council directed staff to send correspondence to all
Eagan households in advance of the October 27, 2005 opening of Runway 17 -35 to highlight the efforts
taken by the City to educate residents about the runway.
Miller briefly discussed the 2005 community survey results stating it is the first time that airport
noise was mentioned by residents as a serious issue facing the City. Miller further stated the Wyle
Laboratories Report has been posted on the City's website. The Commission suggested setting a date and
deciding on the specific format for the January open house at the November ARC meeting. The
Connnission discussed the September 15, 2005 MAC open house held at the Community Center, at which
approximately 100 people attended. It was suggested to keep the same format as the September open house
for the January open house.
RESPONSE FROM NEIGHBORING SCHOOL DISTRICTS RE: AIRPORT NOISE
Miller introduced the item stating per the direction of the Commission at their September 12, 2005
ARC meeting, staff inquired with neighboring school districts with regard to the impact of airport noise on
their schools. Miller included the summary and discussed the results of the inquiries that were made.
Miller stated School District 196 has had no mitigation. Miller stated that the City of Richfield
contacted her after the packet was sent out stating 3 schools have been mitigated; one by the MAC. She
further noted that St. Thomas had some noise mitigation done in 1995. The Connnission discussed Trinity
Lone Oak School noting that they had received notice from MAC in regards to insulating the school, but
now that they are outside the 60 DNL, they have not heard from MAC. Miller stated she will check into
the history of the school's discussions with MAC.
NOVEMBER ARC MEETING
Miller introduced the item noting the ARC meeting for the month of November is scheduled for
Monday, November 14 due to the general election. Miller stated if the Commission scheduled their
meeting for November 14, it would have to be in a workshop setting since the Advisory Parks and
Recreation Commission is scheduled to meet in the City Council Chambers. Miller suggested meeting
Monday, November 7. The Commission agreed to meet on Monday, November 7, 2005 at 7:00 p.m.
NOISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE UPDATE
Miller introduced the item stating the last Noise Oversight Committee meeting was held on October
4, 2005, at which the current co- chairs, Kathleen Nelson of Northwest Airlines and Vern Wilcox of the
City of Bloomington, were both reappointed to two -year co -chair positions. Miller also stated there was
significant discussion regarding alternative noise metrics used in the aviation industry. Miller also noted
the memo from Chad Leqve, Manager of the Aviation Noise and Satellite Programs for MAC, and white
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paper written by him regarding various alternative noise metrics used by MAC, those available for use, but
not currently used by MAC and supplemental metrics used by MAC.
Miller added that Ms. Green, Tower Operation Manager, spoke at the NOC meeting and stated that
training is underway on the new Runway 12L procedure, the crossing in the corridor procedure, and the 2.5
nautical mile turn off of Runway 17/35. Miller noted that the new runway will not be fully operational in
October, as previously stated to the City, and spacing will initially be 5 miles on the new runway versus 3
miles. Miller added that the Runway 17/35, according to Ms. Green will be operating at full capacity in
January of 2006.
NOVEMBER 10, 2005 MAC QUARTERLY PUBLIC INPUT MEETING
Miller introduced the item noting that on November 10, 2005 the Metropolitan Airports
Commission will be hosting their quarterly public input meeting at the Eagan Community Center. Miller
stated notice of the meeting will be included in the next edition of Experience Eagan. Miller explained the
change in format for the meetings, noting that now attendees asking questions or making continents will
verbally be addressed and will also receive a written response. She further stated this is a Metropolitan
Airports Commission sponsored meeting and is open to all cities affected by aircraft noise.
ROUNDTABLE
Miller stated that per the request of Northwest Airlines, there will be a one year delay on the
expansion of gates at the Hubert Humphrey Tenninal, as called for in the 2020 Plan. The Commission
discussed Northwest Airlines filing bankruptcy.
ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion by Aljets, seconded by Prentice, the Commission members adjourned the meeting at
7:35 p.m. All members voted in favor.
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