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RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
• Eagan, Minnesota
February 27, 1996
A special meeting of the Eagan City Council was held on Tuesday, February 27, 1996 at 6:30 p.m. at the
Eagan Municipal Center. Present were Mayor Egan and Councilmembers Wachter, Awada, and Masin.
(Councilmember Hunter arrived at 6:39 p.m.) Also present were members of the Advisory Parks, Recreation &
Natural Resources Commission, and City Administrator Tom Hedges, Community Development Director Peggy
Reichert, Director of Public Works Tom Colbert and Finance Director Gene VanOverbeke.
OPUS/PROMENADE/RESOLUTION OF COMMITMENT
TO TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS
After a brief introduction by Administrator Hedges,Awada moved, Wachter seconded a motion to approve
the resolution of commitment to the transportation improvements for the Eagan Promenade Project/Opus
Corporation. Aye: 4 Nay: 0 (Councilmember Hunter arrived at this time.) 96.16
HOLZ FARM TASK FORCE REPORT
Jon Oyanagi, Recreation Supervisor, reviewed the report and recommendations of the task force. He
indicated they are looking to restore the farm to a period around 1940. It was a time when the farm was prosperous
and it was also a historically significant time, i.e. World War II and the Great Depression. It also fills a niche not
addressed by any other historic farm, since most of them date back to the late 1800's and turn of the century. He
would like to focus on programs from around that era and have predominantly hands on activities. He reviewed
the recommended restoration and funding sources. Lee Markell, Chair of the APRNRC, stressed the importance
of this project.
IIICouncilmember Awada asked about the funding. Jon Oyanagi noted that the task force prioritized projects
as high, medium and low, and spread out the improvements through 2002. Chair Markell pointed out some items
in the budget regarding land acquisition for access.
Mayor Egan noted that a significant amount of the funding is proposed to come from the Capital
Improvement Program. He asked what types of funding mechanisms are being looking at in terms of the CIP.
Recreation Supervisor Oyanagi responded that one of the first tasks of the Friends of the Farm group, which is the
non-profit group proposed to be formed right away,will be a capital fund drive. He gave examples of some possible
sources of funding. Some discussion followed regarding the funding, with concerns raised about the amount of
money needed for this project. Councilmember Awada stated she feels there should be more specifics in the
funding. Discussion followed on possible purchase of land for access. Councilmember Hunter suggested finding
a way to obtain access without spending $300,000 for access. Councilmember Awada stated she feels the city has
overspent the Community Investment Fund. She doesn't feel this is an appropriate expenditure for this fund.
Councilmembers stressed that there are limited funds in the Community Investment Fund and there are many needs
for those funds.
After more discussion,Councilmembers concurred with the targeted time period for the farm,programming,
and uses, but felt the budget should be stretched over a longer period of time. Councilmembers also concurred
with the establishment of a private, non-profit organization.
DISCUSSION ON PROPOSED PARK BOND REFERENDUM
David Szott,member of the APRNRC,reviewed the recommendations of the commission regarding the park
bond referendum. He noted that after considering several dates,they felt the appropriate date would be September
24. The reason for this date is that it was felt more time was necessary to highlight their needs, and get the
citizenry educated and involved in the details of the referendum in order to obtain a broad based level of support.
It was felt that the formation of a task force is important so there is a cross section of the community to help sell
the idea of the referendum to the community. The task force would also keep the subcommittee and APRNRC
informed on what parcels of property are most important, and the size of the bond referendum. He gave examples
of who could be represented on the task force.
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IPHe noted that one of big issues discussed was land acquisition versus development of parks. It was agreed
that the need for land acquisition should be the priority for the bond referendum. It was felt that available land is
decreasing, and land costs are continuing to increase. Acquiring land today will give future city councils and parks
commissions opportunities to develop a parks and recreation programs to meet the needs of the future populations.
The Land Acquisition Subcommittee has identified 6 or 7 parcels as high priorities. The subcommittee also
suggested that a more general approach be used in terms of identifying the land to be acquired, based on the land
acquisition chapter in the Park Systems Plan.
He indicated that a 15 year bond is being suggested, with an amount of no less than $4 million. He
reported on a meeting the subcommittee had with the Eagan Athletic Association Board to hear their needs in terms
of park development. Chair Markel) added that they met with the Trust for Public Land who indicated they would
work with the city on the acquisition of larger, more controversial properties. They were told that the current trend
sees that people are generally in support of creating and maintaining open spaces.
Member Vincent stressed the importance of a task force to help best determine the bond amount and help
market the bond referendum. Mayor Egan asked if a $4 million bond is approved,when they would come back for
other potential referendum capital purchases. Member Vincent indicated that the subcommittee felt that the bond
should specifically focus on land acquisition. The second part of the dual track was to come back in 2 or 3 years
with another referendum for development. It was felt that by doing the referendums separately, the community will
be able to get a clearer picture as to what is being achieved. Mayor Egan asked what the amount of the second
referendum would be and Member Vincent indicated it hasn't been decided what the development needs are.
Councilmember Hunter stated he feels it would be good to get a feeling for what that amount would be and when
marketing the referendum, find out whether people would prefer to have one referendum or two.
Member Vincent noted that the APRNRC would like some direction from the Council as to whether they
concur with the date of the referendum, and permission to go ahead with forming the task force and assist in
selecting members. Councilmember Wachter indicated he would like to see as many voters as possible turn out
40 for the referendum and he feels it should be done in conjunction with the election. It would save money and get
a good voter turnout. Councilmember Masin concurred, stating it could be done at the primary election.
Councilmember Hunter stated he wants to see a true opinion on this. Councilmember Awada argued against doing
it on September 24th, because she feels the taxpayers will feel like the city is trying to slip something through by
having it two weeks after the primary. She also argued against doing it with the primary because only one political
party will be represented at the polls. Considerable discussion followed concerning the date, how a non-vote on
the referendum is calculated, and the advantages and disadvantages of having it with the general election. Mayor
Egan pointed he would like to have a good voter turnout also; but he would rather have a smaller, but more
educated public voting on this. The referendum would be buried on the back page of a general election ballot.
Councilmember Wachter agreed with that, and pointed out that the city used to have an off-year election for that
very reason, but changed it to save money. After more discussion, the consensus was to hold the referendum on
August 6. The Council also concurred with the formation of a task force. Discussion followed on the makeup of
the task force, how to market the referendum, and how much active and passive park land the city currently has.
Parks and Recreation Director Vraa responded that the city has about 1,200 acres of park land. Out of that, about
400 is active. Councilmember Wachter suggested that signs be posted on passive park land identifying it as park
land. Councilmembers felt this was a good suggestion.
Administrator Hedges noted that at the last City Council meeting, action was taken on an item that was
contrary to the APRNRC recommendation, and the APRNRC Chair indicated an interest in getting some feedback
from the Council relative to that decision. Lee Markell,APRNRC Chair,indicated that the APRNRC was unanimous
in wanting to do whatever possible to protect the water resource at Blackhawk Lake. They were surprised to see
that decision reversed. Councilmember Hunter indicated this was debated for a long time, and the way it explained
by staff, if the city kept feeding the outlet of Fish Lake into the pond, it wouldn't degrade Blackhawk Lake—it would
stay the same. The Council didn't want to create a slime covered pond in the middle of high cost homes.
Member Vincent asked whether the Council would be interested in having an APRNRC representative
attend the Council meetings as often as possible, so there is a resource there if there is a question, and the
40 commission's recommendation could be better conveyed. Councilmember Hunter stated he feels that is an
excellent suggestion,and other commissions have done that from time to time. Councilmember Wachter suggested
that whenever something comes up that the commission has a particular interest in and feel there is more
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. information they would like to express to the Council,that they feel free to come to the Council meetings. He added
that when making his decision, he put himself in the position of a potential home buyer in that area, and he wouldn't
want to see a green pond. Chair Markell indicated that a lot of money is being invested in Blackhawk Lake, and
the commission feels the city needs to do everything possible to maintain that water quality. The commission is
trying to protect that resource at the least possible cost. Another APRNRC member indicated the commission
looked at the cost of the bypass versus the cost of other potential cleanup that could be done at Blackhawk Lake.
He indicated that in addition to answering questions for the Council, an APRNRC representative could bring
feedback back to the commission for future decision-making.
Councilmember Awada stressed that the commission's recommendation made sense from their standpoint
and objectives. It is the commission's job to protect those resources. The Council needs to take other things into
consideration as well when making decisions. Mayor Egan added that Rich Brasch represented the commission's
interests very well. Most of the Councilmembers looked at the quality of housing there and felt there are things that
can be done to improve Blackhawk Lake, but there is little that can be done with a stagnated pond. Discussion
followed concerning the goals of the APRNRC and whether they are realistic and on-line with the Council's goals.
WATER RESERVOIR -ANTENNA INSTALLATION LEASE AGREEMENTS
Director of Public Works Colbert indicated he has been inundated with requests to install more antennae
on the city's water towers. He would like some direction as to how many of these the Council wants, what fees
and/or other rate structure should be established for antenna installations, and to what extent the Council wants
these to be encouraged or simply allowed. He pointed out that the Council just approved an extensive logo
application on the Deerwood reservoir.
Councilmember Awada stated she feels this is the wave of the future, and there will be more and more of
these requests. She feels the city should take advantage of this revenue source. Councilmember Wachter
concurred,suggesting that perhaps this revenue could be earmarked for the Holz Farm. Councilmembers indicated
a preference to having these on the reservoirs rather than having them free standing. They also indicated a lack
of knowledge as to what is appropriate to charge. Councilmember Hunter suggested the city should charge$1,000
per month. Director of Public Works Colbert indicated that several companies felt that was too high and wanted
to negotiate a lower price. He feels that in some situations, companies will opt to build a free standing antenna if
the price is too high. This happened when U.S. West decided to build a free standing antenna. Staff tried to point
out the benefits of having the antenna on the reservoir, but he didn't feel the Council shared that preference, and
the Council gave them the permit to build a free standing tower. Councilmember Wachter pointed out that the
Council has more information now and are better able to indicate a preference. He feels the reservoirs are an ideal
location for them and are not objectionable. He feels people will accept them more on the reservoirs.
Mayor Egan expressed a concern about adopting and implementing a policy at the same time. Director
of Public Works Colbert questioned how the location on the reservoir should be handled and how these requests
should be prioritized. Discussion followed concerning whether or not they should be allowed on the logo. The
consensus of the Council was to minimize the antennae on the logo, but if there are conflicts, compatible paint will
be required. The consensus of the Council was also to encourage antennae on the reservoirs rather than free-
standing. Director of Public Works Colbert reminded the Council that the auxiliary structures around the reservoir
need to be considered as well. The Council consensus was to require screening for any auxiliary structures in
residential areas. Director of Public Works Colbert indicated that the city has previously been able to negotiate for
phones and auxiliary storage buildings as part of the agreement. He also indicated the Council can consider a flat
rate per panel. Considerable discussion followed concerning what to charge. The consensus was to charge$1,250
per year per panel, that they be allowed on all reservoirs, that compatible paint be used for any antennae placed
on the logo or lettering,that there be adequate screening for accessory structures,that the leases be for five years,
with an option to renew, and that there be a termination clause in the lease.
ELECTION SIGNS
Administrator Hedges distributed a letter from Gary Morgan that was received relative to this issue. Mayor
SEgan indicated he would like to bring Eagan into conformance with other cities and Dakota County. He feels signs
should be out of the public right-of-way and beyond the boulevard. He doesn't see any harm in restricting their use
on public property. Councilmember Awada noted that that will eliminate signs on any public property such as the
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• corner of Pilot Knob Road and Yankee Doodle Road, which has traditionally had a lot of signs. Mayor Egan
indicated that perhaps zones could be established to allow them in areas where people have traditionally put a lot
of signs. Shannon Tyree, Planner, noted that both Pilot Knob Road and Yankee Doodle Road would be governed
by Dakota County. She reviewed a letter from the Dakota County Attorney's office that city police departments are
authorized to enforce county ordinances within the municipality, including enforcement of ordinances on election
signs. Councilmember Awada stated that as a candidate, it is nice to be able to put signs on public property, rather
than having to get permission from each individual property owner. Planner Tyree reviewed typical right-of-way
areas along highly traveled roads in Eagan. Finance Director VanOverbeke stated that most people think if they
put their signs on the other side of the bike path, it is outside the right-of-way. Usually, it is still within the county
right-of-way, but the city doesn't typically remove them. Then, right before the election, someone could place 15
signs next to the curb. The city would remove those signs because they are within the right-of-way, but actually
the city is selectively deciding where the right-of-way is just by where the bike trail is,and technically,all of the signs
are in the right-of-way. There has been inconsistent application of the law because it isn't really known where the
right-of-way is.
Councilmember Awada questioned whether this is really a problem. Councilmember Hunter suggested the
city adopt a policy that election signs must be three feet from the bike trail. Councilmember Awada noted there
aren't bike trails on every street. Councilmember Awada stated she feels the county should enforce their ordinance
and the city should set a distance from the curb for city streets. Discussion followed concerning what other cities
do on this issue. Councilmember Awada noted that occasionally there are complaints about the number of signs,
but she would rather see them on main roads than in the neighborhoods. Planner Tyree noted that there is also
the issue of public property. Some people feel that public property is for their use. Councilmember Awada
suggested signs be allowed in the public right-of-way unless it obstructs visibility. Mayor Egan referred to the letter
from Gary Morgan, noting he doesn't feel there was any intentional singular treatment in the case of his signs during
the last election. His signs were clearly in violation. He doesn't feel there is a major problem with the current
enforcement. Councilmember Awada suggested signs be allowed no closer than 10 feet from the curb for any
public right-of-way. Councilmembers concurred. Awada added that the county should enforce their own ordinance
within the City of Eagan, and the Police Department will enforce the city's rules on county roads. Director of Public
Works Colbert suggested the ordinance state that it be outside the bike trail, but no closer than 10 feet if there is
no bike trail. The Council agreed to that. Councilmember Awada stressed that the 100 foot from a polling place
rule should be enforced.
Discussion followed concerning charging parties to get confiscated signs back. Finance Director
VanOverbeke suggested the city could hold the signs for 10 or 20 days and then destroy them. Councilmember
Hunter suggested they should be held until after the election. He feels it should be somewhat punitive. After some
discussion, it was felt that not much would be gained by holding them until after the election. Finance Director
VanOverbeke indicated he will prepare an policy according to the Council's direction and have the City Attorney
make sure it isn't in conflict with our ordinance.
The meeting adjourned at 9:28 p.m.
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