05/21/1980 - City Council Finance Committee MEMO TO: CITY ADMINISTRATOR HEDGES
FROM: FINANCE DIRECTOR VAN OVERBEKE
DATE: MAY 21, 1980
SUBJECT: LOGIS
INTRODUCTION
Since our meeting with the Finance Committee on March 31 , I have done additional
research on the subject of data processing alternatives. I have discussed our
situation with a number of municipalities as well as with various vendors.
I have attempted to keep from over stimulating the vendors until our plans have
been defined in greater detail. I have also had extensive discussions with
representatives of the LOGIS organization.
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
As a result of our meeting of yesterday, the following is an attempt to provide
answers to your specific questions regarding the LOGIS operation. Perhaps these
questions and answers can be used as a basis for further discussion with your-
self or with the Finance Committee.
1. What services can be provided by LOGIS and who are the present users?
LOGIS is designed to jointly and cooperatively provide for the establishment,
operation and maintenance of data processing facilities and management informa-
tion systems for the use and benefit of governmental agencies. LOGIS presently
operates a financial control system, payroll system, utility billing system,
equipment control system, a fixed asset system and is developing a geographical
data base system. Unlike typical service bureaus, LOGIS is directed toward
governmental information systems and is not a modification of a system designed
to operate in a business environment. The current users are Apple Valley, Brook-
lyn Center, Brooklyn Park, Coon Rapids, Crystal , Eden Prairie, Edina, Fridley,
Golden Valley, St. Louis Park, Shakopee, Hutchinson, Lakeville, Metropolitan
Transit, Minnetonka, Metropolitan Sports Commission, Mound, Mendota Heights,
Robbinsdale, Cottage Grove, Morris, Richfield and Orono. Eleven of these users
were charter members and the other twelve have subsequently joined the organiza-
tion. The populations of these cities range from under 10,000 to 46,700 in
Edina. These cities also cover the entire range of maturity. The uses range
from all applications in some cities to only one or two applications in others.
2. What services would be used by Eagan?
I would recommend utilizing the financial control system and the payroll system
at the present time. Eagan' s most pressing problem is with the financial system.
However, the incremental cost to add payroll would be minimal and there is a
Great deal of interface between the two systems.
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May 21 , 1980
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From a practical standpoint, it is not possible to maintain accrual and modified
accrual financial records with our present system. Consequently, it is not
possible to determine the financial position of any City fund on a timely basis.
We have been through this with the Fire Station Capital Improvement Fund and
with the Future Street Construction Fund as two recent examples.
3. What would be the impact of LOGIS on current operations?
Successful implementation of any automated data processing system should improve
the efficiency of the accounting and financial record keeping functions of the
City. It would not automatically make our present manual system into a good
automated one, but it would give the staff a chance to make some progress.
We could resonably expect more timely and much better management information.
LOOTS would allow the staff the most time to work on improvements to the City
operations since we would not be responsible for the hardware, software and
other processing applications.
4. What would LOGIS cost per year and how do we pay for it?
LOGIS uses three classes of charges. The first is to cover the organization' s
general, administrative and operational expenses. This amount is presently
$5,000 per year and is covered by a State grant for new members for their first
year of operation. The second class is to cover the cost of design and develop-
ment of computer programs and systems and other capital costs. This charge
is for enhancements that have general applicability and is presently $2,000
per year. The final class covers the costs of operations and maintenance to
individual members determined by their usage. If Eagan were to utilize the
financial and payroll systems, I would project the first year costs to be appro-
ximately $12,300 or $1 ,025 per month. The subsequent yearly costs would be
$17,300 or $1 ,450 per month. This increase reflects the expiration of the grant
after one year. LOGIS management is not anticipating increases in user charges
although the organization is subject to the same inflationary pressures as is
everyone else. Since we are considering only these two systems, the payment
would be an obligation of the general fund. Since the State of Minnesota is
a participant of the LOGIS system and since the capabilities provided are sub-
stantially new to LOOTS members and substantially exceed the minimum require-
ments of State law for municipal reporting, the assessments to LOGIS members
qualify for exemption under the levy limit law. According to Rich Gardner in
the Local Government Aids and Analysis Division at the State of Minnesota, we
can special levy in the taxes payable in 1981 for the LOGIS costs incurred in
1980 as long as they were not levied with the taxes payable in 1980. I would
recommend using the fund balance for these 1980 costs through a budget adjust-
ment and special levying for these costs as well as the 1981 costs in the next
budget year. The 1980 costs would depend on the start up date and actual cash
flow would also depend on billing date.
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May 21 , 1980
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5. What are the alternatives if LOGIS is not selected?
Assuming that LOGIS is not acceptable as the best of the service bureau/coopera-
tive alternatives, the other option would be to explore stand alone systems.
Since this becomes much more of a long range commitment to a specific system,
it would require much more planning and study than would a decision to go with
LOGIS. I would then recommend establishing a selection committee to complete
a needs analysis and to control the entire selection process. It is felt that
from the needs analysis to getting the hardware in the front door should take
from six to nine months. This could be optimistic in Eagan, given the pressure
of the present work load. The time period from getting the hardware in the
door to getting all systems operating would probably be at least that long and
would depend primarily on the support available from the vendor/vendors. Most
cities to which I have talked have been disappointed in this area.
6. What would the projected timing be if LOGIS were selected?
Assuming that LOGIS could be approved in June, we would probably be able to
begin processing in September. It is estimated that it would take approximately
two months after approval to get checks printed up and ready for use. Other
timing would depend on what kind of commitment could be given to the conversion
effort by the City. We would need at least the two months to prepare a chart
of accounts reflecting the accounting structure that would be satisfactory to
the departments and to the City Council. It would be appropriate that this
chart of accounts would be in effect for the 1981 budgeting effort which will
begin during this same time period. Hopefully, this timing would allow for
the elimination of problems and mistakes in 1980 and allow for a relatively
clean operation in 1981. We would have to meet with LOGIS representatives to
prepare a detail schedule for implementation.
SUMMARY
In summary, I feel that LOGIS is the best alternative for the City of Eagan
given the present environment. LOGIS can povide the services we need in a time
frame that would allow for significant improvements in our operations while
not burdening the Staff with data processing requirements. Although it does
not alter the fact that it has to be paid for, the option of the special levy
for LOGIS does provide some flexibility that might not be available if we pur-
chase hardware and incur additional operating costs. With LOGIS we would not
have any long term commitments and would retain all options to be explored at
any time in the future.