04/18/2006 - Window Sign Task ForceAGENDA
EAGAN WINDOW SIGN TASK FORCE
EAGAN ROOM AT EAGAN CITY HALL
TUESDAY, APRIL 18, 2006
4:30 P.M.
I. WELCOME AND CALL TO ORDER
II. NOTES FROM APRIL 4, 2006 MEETING
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IV. REVIEW OF OTHER CITIES' WINDOW SIGN RELATIONS
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V. ALTERNATIVES FOR RESOLUTION
VI. INFORMATION AND DIRECTION FOR FUTURE MEETINGS — If necessary
VII. FUTURE MEETING SCHEDULE — If necessary
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TO: EAGAN WINDOW SIGN TASK FORCE
FROM: JON HOHENSTEIN, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
DATE: APRIL 14, 2006
SUBJECT: EAGAN WINDOW SIGN TASK FORCE BACKGROUND
The next meeting of the Eagan Window Sign Task Force will be held on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at
4:30 p.m. in the Eagan Room at Eagan City Hall. The following items are attached as background to
the meeting:
AGENDA
The Agenda is attached to this email. If members wish to amend the agenda, it would be
appropriate to do so at the beginning of the meeting.
MEMBER LIST
The Task Force Contact List is also attached.
MEETING NOTES
Notes from the April 4, 2006 meeting are enclosed attached. Please review the notes and let staff
know if there are any changes or additions you would suggest.
TASK FORCE DISCUSSION
At the April 4, meeting, the Task Force discussed the history of the window sign code issue and
concerns were outlined by the business representatives concerning the effect of aspects of the
ordinance on existing and prospective signs. The focus at Tuesday's meeting will be for the Task
Force to discuss the issues and concerns and possible resolution of the specific items. The specific
window sign code regulations that have been the basis of the discussion to date are summarized at
the beginning of the Window Sign Code Comparison matrix that is attached.
BACKGROUND INFORMATION
At the close of the meeting on April 4, the business representatives were asked to respond to the
following questions: Are there pictures/examples of signs that would need to be altered to comply
with the ordinance as it exists today? What are the specific ordinance language changes the
businesses would like to see? Is there a balance that can be struck?
Staff will bring pictures it has taken of window signs ranging from those that would comply with the
current ordinance to those that would have issues with one or more aspects of the code. Buzz
Anderson has also been asked to bring a copy of the slide presentation he made to the House
Committee regarding this issue. If any Task Force members have taken other pictures, please bring
them with you to the meeting on the 18tH
In response to the question about specific ordinance issues and ways to strike a balance in the
ordinance, Ruthe Batulis indicated that the businesses would like to find answers to the following
questions or issues:
1) Keep it simple.
2) The clear zone which is at eye level a prime location for business I.D. and information.
3) Window space generally is a prime location for business promotion.
4) If there is going to be a permit and/or fee, would existing businesses with existing signs be
grandfathered?
5) What is the criteria and interpretation relative to enforcement? Will the criteria address
aesthetics and space?
6) Would corporate branding be allowed?
7) The importance of consistency with enforcement.
The matrix reflecting window sign code regulations in Northern Dakota County cities and other cities
in the Metropolitan Area is attached.
FUTURE MEETING SCHEDULE
The schedule for future meetings will be set at the Task Force Meeting on April 18th. Please bring
your calendars to permit us to set some dates. Councilmembers Fields and McGuire have indicated
that the best times for them would be preceding regular City Council meetings on the first and third
Tuesdays of the month. The issues raised and the progress made at the meeting will determine the
likely number of meetings necessary over the next several weeks to attempt to accomplish the task
force work.
Community Development Director
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Cartridge World
Jack Johnson
3324 Promenade Ave #100
Eagan MN 55121
Fastframe
Tami Phillippi
1960 Cliff Lake Rd #103
Eagan MN 55122
Minnesota Retailers Assoc
Buzz Anderson
400 Robert St N #1540
St Paul MN 55101
NDC Chambers of Commerce
Ruthe Batulis
1121 Town Centre Dr
Eagan MN 55123
Perrier Wines and Liquors
David Perrier
1960 Cliff Lake Rd #10,1
Eagan MN 55122
State Farm Insurance
John Curlee
1565 Cliff Rd #4
Eagan MN 55122
Jack Johnson
Cartridge World
3324 Promenade Ave #100
Eagan MN 55121
j jack@cartridgeworldeagan.com
Tami Phillippi
Fastframe
1960 Cliff Lake Rd #103
Eagan MN 55122
tamip645@yahoo.com
Buzz Anderson
Minnesota Retailers Assoc
400 Robert St N #1540
St Paul MN 55101
andersonrus@comcast.net
Ruthe Batulis
NDC Chambers of Commerce
1121 Town Centre Dr
Eagan MN 55123
rbatulis@ndcchambers.com
Councilmember Cyndee Fields
cfields@cityofeagan.com
Window Signage
Task Force Members
April 2006
David Perrier
Perrier Wines and Liquors
1960 Cliff Lake Rd #101
Eagan MN 55122
daveperrier@charter.net
John Curlee
State Farm Insurance
1565 Cliff Rd #4
Eagan MN 55122
john.curlee. b691. statefarm.com
Ted Gladhill
1153 Blue Heron Ct
Eagan MN 55123
ted.gladhill@comcast.net
Gary Hansen
1486 Thomas Lane
Eagan MN 55122
garyhansen@1 stcounsel.com
Councilmember Mike Maguire
mmaguire@cityofeagan.com
Jon Hohenstein, Community Development Director Mike Ridley, City Planner
jhohenstein@cityofeagan.com mridley@cityofeagan.com
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From: Mike Maguire [councilmember_maguire@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 12:56 AM
To: Tom Hedges
Subject: RE: Task force Meeting
Tom,
Thanks for this. I am sure that these discussions came with a fair share of emotional and
professional challenge and I'm sure that you and Jon both dealt with this quite well.
Thanks for the extra effort. I know that for staff and council the issues are slightly
different but I sincerely appreciate your sensitivity. Please know that my concerns are
more a reflection of my sense of the gravity of this situation than any sort of positive
or negative reflection upon your staff and their actions one way or another in regards to
this ordinance.
Thanks, as always, for your work and dedication.
Mike
>From: "Tom Hedges" <THedges@cityofeagan.com>
>To: "Mike Maguire" <councilmember_Maguire@hotmail.com>
>.Subject: Task force Meeting
>Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:59:52 -0500
>Mike
>I have met with Jon on two separate occasions this week to discuss how
>we approach the Window Sign Task Force in future meetings. I have
>,shared that less staff "dominance" and freer flowing task force
>discussion is necessary for a process in order to receive the input
>from the retailers. I plan to be at the meeting and will help to
>accomplish this task. Our role should be to help frame the issues,
>briefly, take good notes and attempt to re cap the input for either a
>findings to the CC or more research etc. if that is the wish of the group.
>-I,reviewed the agenda and support memo before it was finalized for
>distribution. I plan to follow up after our next meeting with Ruthie
>and ask for her input on the process. Thanks for sharing your concerns
>the other day; I am very sensitive to the over all outcomes of this
>process!
>Have a wonderful Easter Holiday!!
>Torr,
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