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04/18/2006 - Window Sign Task ForceAGENDA EAGAN WINDOW SIGN TASK FORCE EAGAN ROOM AT EAGAN CITY HALL TUESDAY, APRIL 18, 2006 4:30 P.M. I. WELCOME AND CALL TO ORDER II. NOTES FROM APRIL 4, 2006 MEETING 11 I111] f.Y�111.Y.y I1 K&I" xy IV. REVIEW OF OTHER CITIES' WINDOW SIGN RELATIONS e V. ALTERNATIVES FOR RESOLUTION VI. INFORMATION AND DIRECTION FOR FUTURE MEETINGS — If necessary VII. FUTURE MEETING SCHEDULE — If necessary VHI. ADJOURNMENT Auxiliary aids for persons with disabilities will be provided upon advance notice of at least 96 hours. If a notice of less than 96 hours is received, the City of Eagan will attempt to provide such aid. Please contact "ty Administration at 651-675-5001 with requests. C•� 46 051e o V'/N . wa � 100 G v 4-11� CityEapof Meso TO: EAGAN WINDOW SIGN TASK FORCE FROM: JON HOHENSTEIN, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR DATE: APRIL 14, 2006 SUBJECT: EAGAN WINDOW SIGN TASK FORCE BACKGROUND The next meeting of the Eagan Window Sign Task Force will be held on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 4:30 p.m. in the Eagan Room at Eagan City Hall. The following items are attached as background to the meeting: AGENDA The Agenda is attached to this email. If members wish to amend the agenda, it would be appropriate to do so at the beginning of the meeting. MEMBER LIST The Task Force Contact List is also attached. MEETING NOTES Notes from the April 4, 2006 meeting are enclosed attached. Please review the notes and let staff know if there are any changes or additions you would suggest. TASK FORCE DISCUSSION At the April 4, meeting, the Task Force discussed the history of the window sign code issue and concerns were outlined by the business representatives concerning the effect of aspects of the ordinance on existing and prospective signs. The focus at Tuesday's meeting will be for the Task Force to discuss the issues and concerns and possible resolution of the specific items. The specific window sign code regulations that have been the basis of the discussion to date are summarized at the beginning of the Window Sign Code Comparison matrix that is attached. BACKGROUND INFORMATION At the close of the meeting on April 4, the business representatives were asked to respond to the following questions: Are there pictures/examples of signs that would need to be altered to comply with the ordinance as it exists today? What are the specific ordinance language changes the businesses would like to see? Is there a balance that can be struck? Staff will bring pictures it has taken of window signs ranging from those that would comply with the current ordinance to those that would have issues with one or more aspects of the code. Buzz Anderson has also been asked to bring a copy of the slide presentation he made to the House Committee regarding this issue. If any Task Force members have taken other pictures, please bring them with you to the meeting on the 18tH In response to the question about specific ordinance issues and ways to strike a balance in the ordinance, Ruthe Batulis indicated that the businesses would like to find answers to the following questions or issues: 1) Keep it simple. 2) The clear zone which is at eye level a prime location for business I.D. and information. 3) Window space generally is a prime location for business promotion. 4) If there is going to be a permit and/or fee, would existing businesses with existing signs be grandfathered? 5) What is the criteria and interpretation relative to enforcement? Will the criteria address aesthetics and space? 6) Would corporate branding be allowed? 7) The importance of consistency with enforcement. The matrix reflecting window sign code regulations in Northern Dakota County cities and other cities in the Metropolitan Area is attached. FUTURE MEETING SCHEDULE The schedule for future meetings will be set at the Task Force Meeting on April 18th. Please bring your calendars to permit us to set some dates. Councilmembers Fields and McGuire have indicated that the best times for them would be preceding regular City Council meetings on the first and third Tuesdays of the month. The issues raised and the progress made at the meeting will determine the likely number of meetings necessary over the next several weeks to attempt to accomplish the task force work. Community Development Director cc: Councilmembers Fields & Maguire Q Z��''s�`C. c L 50`ys .x. ZQca Cartridge World Jack Johnson 3324 Promenade Ave #100 Eagan MN 55121 Fastframe Tami Phillippi 1960 Cliff Lake Rd #103 Eagan MN 55122 Minnesota Retailers Assoc Buzz Anderson 400 Robert St N #1540 St Paul MN 55101 NDC Chambers of Commerce Ruthe Batulis 1121 Town Centre Dr Eagan MN 55123 Perrier Wines and Liquors David Perrier 1960 Cliff Lake Rd #10,1 Eagan MN 55122 State Farm Insurance John Curlee 1565 Cliff Rd #4 Eagan MN 55122 Jack Johnson Cartridge World 3324 Promenade Ave #100 Eagan MN 55121 j jack@cartridgeworldeagan.com Tami Phillippi Fastframe 1960 Cliff Lake Rd #103 Eagan MN 55122 tamip645@yahoo.com Buzz Anderson Minnesota Retailers Assoc 400 Robert St N #1540 St Paul MN 55101 andersonrus@comcast.net Ruthe Batulis NDC Chambers of Commerce 1121 Town Centre Dr Eagan MN 55123 rbatulis@ndcchambers.com Councilmember Cyndee Fields cfields@cityofeagan.com Window Signage Task Force Members April 2006 David Perrier Perrier Wines and Liquors 1960 Cliff Lake Rd #101 Eagan MN 55122 daveperrier@charter.net John Curlee State Farm Insurance 1565 Cliff Rd #4 Eagan MN 55122 john.curlee. b691. statefarm.com Ted Gladhill 1153 Blue Heron Ct Eagan MN 55123 ted.gladhill@comcast.net Gary Hansen 1486 Thomas Lane Eagan MN 55122 garyhansen@1 stcounsel.com Councilmember Mike Maguire mmaguire@cityofeagan.com Jon Hohenstein, Community Development Director Mike Ridley, City Planner jhohenstein@cityofeagan.com mridley@cityofeagan.com CD 0 C) N L IO 2 M t vl- p fA d _ f c H of ` N O a� C� O o a� ag IT-) m fd via 0 �' +i tll N d �_ N C L OT N O U LO O O m tm O w L U N N! .a O •O — t0 �' a N L O 0 o E - cLu m C x C) gas=mRs rn0° �> ca) �� c �ZN a N O O =_ O p �-0 U) 0 m_ m O 3 r- ns 1 V as a = dra m o L o �� `-° 0 0 m ao ns� c a .=�Neaa �w mho oo�_� 3 oQ =p O E CD cO d `p N CY)ca a a o O O) O ` O C N � (D M 3 0 ate+ 0 N O = C r � _ OL 0 -0 b "0 N > — 0 v .0 � x a O' m' 3 � N 3 'a L m �, ,� a) 5 a) m m ,- o CU a O°'a�i� 3034) E 4)0'a�, mMr aXic)o-0a) Cl) U) 3 E p v 0 O 0 c ' N K 0 4) m a 0. c U) �' E a� x o� L co O O= O ++ ,� N d 1p O O .Q :a O .0 O 0 N d Cc- 0 -0 p) O d O m N C _ — E i 0 i R v1 ai M co) Y c O -0 cm to t0 0 0 R d .= C= — O p cn rn a C M cn O= N N N Cat r W .3 y C � ,_ N O O m C p Mn o N �_' 0 O O E 3 m C cu 3 'p C cu i== O o. 0) 3 d 0 0 .0 E ea N o c ca M ami o �'— c— cu o eat ea. 3a cs d'� o �o Na N m 3 c 3L c boy c�acu �0 3 3 N �� 3 (t Q o o, o o �• �, 3 O a� o Qo u; .c o v d 0= L H �+ = U) 0 -5 EC U) j, C U) o N= H�wrZaQ i oa 3 c x a�� O i 3� o o c •• 0 CD O� L 6 0a'' C CO U) O 0 ._ - 0-L E N N ` c 0 o CO O iO C 0 _ c > N 3 02 m c -0 c6 �, •� v ns _N `�=oa) mm E vi E E c _m 'L 0 � E E 3 pQ r U 0O co ui U) O O — p +- to U -p c m ; rna' ap 3 ME O 0 V r to (o c Q O 0 C co CL N L 0 U .V O 'C (6 U) o z < cu � c � rn co Q o U W Q m vl- (D O C) N t U m c a) E T Cr N m o U U � rna) Cc m c 0) 7� 3 O C �-i w E 7 ai cu C ,� o c i O c Oa' > m s O O X O vi O c a) 3 a 4--O 2 '~ 0) `~ m v a C O o p m O -� _N _N •C C L U >, 0-0 L3 ?� N V p 'o C m m p y - t: CU c c ° > a) U > (i f0 E a) 3 .. o w � �' � .3 ° � o °-' ax) o m �' ° -00 0 0 ° ° >° = 0 c o o ai c o 0) a) � o c o (D c _, c am -0 m E. o- o O c m N �� o D) m E- o m E -o E. 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I am sure that these discussions came with a fair share of emotional and professional challenge and I'm sure that you and Jon both dealt with this quite well. Thanks for the extra effort. I know that for staff and council the issues are slightly different but I sincerely appreciate your sensitivity. Please know that my concerns are more a reflection of my sense of the gravity of this situation than any sort of positive or negative reflection upon your staff and their actions one way or another in regards to this ordinance. Thanks, as always, for your work and dedication. Mike >From: "Tom Hedges" <THedges@cityofeagan.com> >To: "Mike Maguire" <councilmember_Maguire@hotmail.com> >.Subject: Task force Meeting >Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:59:52 -0500 >Mike >I have met with Jon on two separate occasions this week to discuss how >we approach the Window Sign Task Force in future meetings. I have >,shared that less staff "dominance" and freer flowing task force >discussion is necessary for a process in order to receive the input >from the retailers. I plan to be at the meeting and will help to >accomplish this task. Our role should be to help frame the issues, >briefly, take good notes and attempt to re cap the input for either a >findings to the CC or more research etc. if that is the wish of the group. >-I,reviewed the agenda and support memo before it was finalized for >distribution. I plan to follow up after our next meeting with Ruthie >and ask for her input on the process. Thanks for sharing your concerns >the other day; I am very sensitive to the over all outcomes of this >process! >Have a wonderful Easter Holiday!! >Torr, Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 1