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MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE ADVISORY PARK COtM4ITTEE
September G. 1977
A regular meeting of the Eagan Advisory Park Committee was held
at 7:30 P.M. at the Eagan City Hall on September 8, 1977. Those
members present were Chairperson Lundsten, Beck, Thursten, Cooper,
Roszak and Hagen. Also present were City Administrator Tom sledges,
Park Director Barb Schmidt and Zoning Aid Dale Runkle. Absent were
Committee Members Coates, Martin and Brown.
Approval of the minutes of the previous regular meeting, held
on August 11, 1977, and a special Park Advisory Committee meeting
held on August 18, 1977, were approved.
DELAWARE ESTATES. Mr. Dick Parranto appeared and presented his
preliminary plat entitled "Delaware Estates`, which includes dedication
of open space and a walkway leading to that portion of his development
which is in Inver Grove Heights. There were some questions relating
to the level of two ponds. It was stated that the park dedication
must include 20 feet above the high water line as determined by the
City Engineer. Park Committee members questioned whether the open
space was useable as park land instead of a ponding area. Mr. Parranto
also discussed an outlot which is included in the proposed plat as a
buffer zone to the presently zoned industrial park area. Chairperson
Lundsten stated that active park land is necessary with the number of
single family and two family homes planned for the area. She was
also concerned about the City of Inver Grove Heights plans for park
land development for their portion of the overall housing development
as proposed by fir. Dick Parranto. Park Director Schmidt stated that
Delaware Estates as proposed in the City of Eagan is not conducive to
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active park land and further that there are lots in the Inver Grove
Heights plat that are more beneficial for active and useable park
land. Committee tlember Roszak stated that the Cities of Eagan and
Inver Grove Heights should jointly consider the development of an
active park for the South Delaware Hills and Delaware Estates plats
which is possible by means of a Joint Powers Agreement between the
two communities. The developer, Mr. Dick Parranto, stated that he had
informed Inver Grove Heights that if active park land is accepted, he
would purchase the necessary park equipment for that park development.
Chairperson Lundsten stated that the Cities of Eagan and Inver Grove
Heights should discuss the active park concept and due to the rough
topography in the City of Eagan, it is hopeful that Inver Grove
Heights will dedicate land at the time of final platting for active
park land to be used by both communities in future years. After
further discussion on the proposed park land dedication for Delaware
Hills, a motion was introduced by John Roszak, seconded by Kathy Beck
all members voting in favor that the park land dedication for Delaware
Estates be accepted with the following considerations -
1. Park land is to be established at least 20 feet above the
high water level around the pond as indicated on the map identified
as preliminary plat, Delaware Estates.
2. The park dedication acceptance is subject to staff review of
future platting of land and zoning to the south of the proposed
development.
3. The staff is to contact representatives of the City of
Inver Grove Heights to urge them to consider land dedication for
active park use as proposed by the developer.
4. The final dedication is subject to meeting all park land
dedication requirements per City policy.
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DUCKMOOD ESTATES PLAT. Mr. John Klein, representing Mr. Ken
Applebaum, presented the intended land use and plans for the proposed
development of Duckwood Estates. He stated that 8.07 acres of land
was dedicated by the original land owner which satisfies the park
land dedication requirements for Duckwood Estates, which is approxi-
mately 37 acres of an 80 acre parcel. He stated that the developer
would like to rename the lake from O'Leary Lake to Duck -+rood Lake for
identification purposes. Committee Member Roszak asked if the
previous developer ever platted or deeded the property which is now
proposed as Duckwood Estates. Mr. John Klein stated that the property
was deeded, a final plat was approved, however, the final plat was
never recorded. He further stated that when the property was rezoned,
the park land dedication was approved. Park Director Schmidt stated
that a final plat was never approved for that development, so there
is a question regarding the old 108 dedication requirement as opposed
to the present park land dedication policy. She further stated that
under the new policy and regulations there is a joint ponding dedi-
cation policy which would require more park land dedication than the
old park land dedication policy. Park Director Schmidt stated that
there is a definite question as to which policy is to be used for the
purposes of determining park land dedication for Duckwood Estates
and that the City Attorney is researching this matter for the Park
Committee'and City Council. Zoning Aid Runkle stated that of the 8.07
acres, approximately 2.9 acres is wetland. Park Director Schmidt
stated that park dedication policy and easement requirements for
Duckwood Estates must be resolved before park dedication is finalized.
In a motion by John Roszak, seconded Fay Cooper, all members voting
in favor, the matter of park land dedication for Duckwood Estates was
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referred to the Development Committee and City Attorney Hauge was
directed to research whether the present park dedication policy is
in effect or if the 8.7 acres of park land as dedicated with the
original plat is acceptable as park land dedication, and furthermore,
that the City staff contact and coordinate the park land dedication
with IDS Properties in an attempt to study the entire neighborhood
park use concept for the development area.
PARK DEDICATION POLICY. Park Director Schmidt discussed the
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procedure of how a comprehensive park land dedication policy can be
handled to satisfy residential, commercial and industrial development
as well as raw land value, development of trails and other related
items. Committee Member Roszak stated that a special meeting should
be set to review the goals and objectives and outline park dedication
policies for consideration by the Park Committee. He stated that the
Committee is more effective if time restrictions were placed on the
meeting and recommended three hours for the purpose of reviewing a
park dedication policy. Chairperson Lundsten stated that September 30
is an acceptable date for review and that all members of the staff
should be present for the review process. In a motion by John Roszak,
seconded by Norm Hagen, all members voting in favor, a special meeting
was set for September 30, 1977 at which time three hours would be
allowed by the Park Committee to review the goals and objectives and
outline a park dedication policy to include all residential, commercial
and industrial development in the City of Eagan.
OAK CHASE PARK. Park Director Schmidt reported that Jim Frisbee,
the developer of Oak Chase, had not responded to the latest efforts
by City staff to determine a fair and equitable approach to resolve
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the park dedication for that development area. Committee Member
Roszak stated that the sale price of park land should be considered
at a fair market value and further, since the staff was directed to
negotiate with the developer to resolve the entire park land proposal
for Oak Chase, there should be no further discussion until the staff
presents their findings to the Park Advisory Committee.
EAGAN HILLS PRELIMINARY PLAT. Park Director Schmidt and Zoning
Aid Runkle presented a proposed trail system specifications and
design for the preliminary plat entitled "Eagan Hills'. The City
Administrator stated that there was some concern regarding open
active park land for that development area by the City Council.
He further stated that the City Council was also concerned about
the purpose of a trail in the Eagan Hills Development. Park Director
Schmidt explained that the trail is intended to provide a pedestrian
link between Pilot Knob Road and McCarthy Park and therefore carries
more significance as a primary trail than an interior trail. There
was considerable discussion regarding the designation of trails in
lieu of cash donation or park dedication for passive or active park
land. Park Director Schmidt read the.park policy and stated that
according to the policy, it is possible to dedicate trails as park
land in new developments.
After further discussion on the matter and in a motion by
Lundsten, seconded Cooper, all members voting in favor, the following
resolution was offered;
WHEREAS, the Park Committee wishes to encourage trails
within developments linking park facilities and other points
of interest in Eagan: and,
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WHEREAS, in the judgement o
Eagan Hills Development does not
for active park purposes due to
proximity to Patrick Eagan Park;
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f the Park Committee, the
encompass land suitable
its topography and its
and,
WHEREAS, public access from Patrick Eagan Park through
the Eagan Hills development to a proposed future regional
trail on Pilot Knob Road would be a desirable element in
an overall trail plan; and,
WHEREAS, provisions for giving park dedication credit
to developers who dedicate and install such trails do
exist in our present park -ponding policyt and,
WHEREAS, successful installation and utilization of
a trail throughout a neighborhood could establish a
precedent which would encourage more such development.
THEREFORE, the Eagan Park Committee recommends that
park dedication for Eagan Hills be satisfied by the dedi-
cation of land, water and trail as shown on the attached
Exhibit A and the installation by the developer of the trail
according to the following requirements;
1. Trail Specification: 6 ft. wide - 2" asphalt on
4" base.
2. Ad'acent to Pond:: Trail on a bench at least 1
ft. above
,igen
water elevation as estimated by City Engineer.
3. Dedication of Trail and Pond. Fee title or ease-
ment as deemed appropriate by City Attorney. These dedi-
cations shall be at time of final platting.
4. Location of Trail: As shown on exhibit except
to be on north side o Road No. 1 and not located adjacent
to church site.
5. Trail Dedication: As shown except for additional
area adjacent to pond and County Road 30 dedicated for
access to pond.
6. Construction of Trail% To be constructed by
developer at his sole cost with supervision of construction
by City staff. Trail to be completed no later than speci-
fied date 11-•1-79 or at such time as building permits have
been issued for 50 homes, whichever shall occur first.
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STADIUM.PROPOSAL. There was a brief discussion by the Committee
regarding the philosophy of whether the City should consider a
municipal park near regional facilities such as a metropolitan sports
facility. In addition, there was some discussion pertaining to a
policy for cash donation in relation to metro development of regional
facilities. No action was taken on the matter.
The meeting was adjourned.
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MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE ADVISORY PARK COtM4ITTEE
September G. 1977
A regular meeting of the Eagan Advisory Park Committee was held
at 7:30 P.M. at the Eagan City Hall on September 8, 1977. Those
members present were Chairperson Lundsten, Beck, Thursten, Cooper,
Roszak and Hagen. Also present were City Administrator Tom sledges,
Park Director Barb Schmidt and Zoning Aid Dale Runkle. Absent were
Committee Members Coates, Martin and Brown.
Approval of the minutes of the previous regular meeting, held
on August 11, 1977, and a special Park Advisory Committee meeting
held on August 18, 1977, were approved.
DELAWARE ESTATES. Mr. Dick Parranto appeared and presented his
preliminary plat entitled "Delaware Estates`, which includes dedication
of open space and a walkway leading to that portion of his development
which is in Inver Grove Heights. There were some questions relating
to the level of two ponds. It was stated that the park dedication
must include 20 feet above the high water line as determined by the
City Engineer. Park Committee members questioned whether the open
space was useable as park land instead of a ponding area. Mr. Parranto
also discussed an outlot which is included in the proposed plat as a
buffer zone to the presently zoned industrial park area. Chairperson
Lundsten stated that active park land is necessary with the number of
single family and two family homes planned for the area. She was
also concerned about the City of Inver Grove Heights plans for park
land development for their portion of the overall housing development
as proposed by fir. Dick Parranto. Park Director Schmidt stated that
Delaware Estates as proposed in the City of Eagan is not conducive to
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active park land and further that there are lots in the Inver Grove
Heights plat that are more beneficial for active and useable park
land. Committee tlember Roszak stated that the Cities of Eagan and
Inver Grove Heights should jointly consider the development of an
active park for the South Delaware Hills and Delaware Estates plats
which is possible by means of a Joint Powers Agreement between the
two communities. The developer, Mr. Dick Parranto, stated that he had
informed Inver Grove Heights that if active park land is accepted, he
would purchase the necessary park equipment for that park development.
Chairperson Lundsten stated that the Cities of Eagan and Inver Grove
Heights should discuss the active park concept and due to the rough
topography in the City of Eagan, it is hopeful that Inver Grove
Heights will dedicate land at the time of final platting for active
park land to be used by both communities in future years. After
further discussion on the proposed park land dedication for Delaware
Hills, a motion was introduced by John Roszak, seconded by Kathy Beck
all members voting in favor that the park land dedication for Delaware
Estates be accepted with the following considerations -
1. Park land is to be established at least 20 feet above the
high water level around the pond as indicated on the map identified
as preliminary plat, Delaware Estates.
2. The park dedication acceptance is subject to staff review of
future platting of land and zoning to the south of the proposed
development.
3. The staff is to contact representatives of the City of
Inver Grove Heights to urge them to consider land dedication for
active park use as proposed by the developer.
4. The final dedication is subject to meeting all park land
dedication requirements per City policy.
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DUCKMOOD ESTATES PLAT. Mr. John Klein, representing Mr. Ken
Applebaum, presented the intended land use and plans for the proposed
development of Duckwood Estates. He stated that 8.07 acres of land
was dedicated by the original land owner which satisfies the park
land dedication requirements for Duckwood Estates, which is approxi-
mately 37 acres of an 80 acre parcel. He stated that the developer
would like to rename the lake from O'Leary Lake to Duck -+rood Lake for
identification purposes. Committee Member Roszak asked if the
previous developer ever platted or deeded the property which is now
proposed as Duckwood Estates. Mr. John Klein stated that the property
was deeded, a final plat was approved, however, the final plat was
never recorded. He further stated that when the property was rezoned,
the park land dedication was approved. Park Director Schmidt stated
that a final plat was never approved for that development, so there
is a question regarding the old 108 dedication requirement as opposed
to the present park land dedication policy. She further stated that
under the new policy and regulations there is a joint ponding dedi-
cation policy which would require more park land dedication than the
old park land dedication policy. Park Director Schmidt stated that
there is a definite question as to which policy is to be used for the
purposes of determining park land dedication for Duckwood Estates
and that the City Attorney is researching this matter for the Park
Committee'and City Council. Zoning Aid Runkle stated that of the 8.07
acres, approximately 2.9 acres is wetland. Park Director Schmidt
stated that park dedication policy and easement requirements for
Duckwood Estates must be resolved before park dedication is finalized.
In a motion by John Roszak, seconded Fay Cooper, all members voting
in favor, the matter of park land dedication for Duckwood Estates was
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referred to the Development Committee and City Attorney Hauge was
directed to research whether the present park dedication policy is
in effect or if the 8.7 acres of park land as dedicated with the
original plat is acceptable as park land dedication, and furthermore,
that the City staff contact and coordinate the park land dedication
with IDS Properties in an attempt to study the entire neighborhood
park use concept for the development area.
PARK DEDICATION POLICY. Park Director Schmidt discussed the
V
procedure of how a comprehensive park land dedication policy can be
handled to satisfy residential, commercial and industrial development
as well as raw land value, development of trails and other related
items. Committee Member Roszak stated that a special meeting should
be set to review the goals and objectives and outline park dedication
policies for consideration by the Park Committee. He stated that the
Committee is more effective if time restrictions were placed on the
meeting and recommended three hours for the purpose of reviewing a
park dedication policy. Chairperson Lundsten stated that September 30
is an acceptable date for review and that all members of the staff
should be present for the review process. In a motion by John Roszak,
seconded by Norm Hagen, all members voting in favor, a special meeting
was set for September 30, 1977 at which time three hours would be
allowed by the Park Committee to review the goals and objectives and
outline a park dedication policy to include all residential, commercial
and industrial development in the City of Eagan.
OAK CHASE PARK. Park Director Schmidt reported that Jim Frisbee,
the developer of Oak Chase, had not responded to the latest efforts
by City staff to determine a fair and equitable approach to resolve
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the park dedication for that development area. Committee Member
Roszak stated that the sale price of park land should be considered
at a fair market value and further, since the staff was directed to
negotiate with the developer to resolve the entire park land proposal
for Oak Chase, there should be no further discussion until the staff
presents their findings to the Park Advisory Committee.
EAGAN HILLS PRELIMINARY PLAT. Park Director Schmidt and Zoning
Aid Runkle presented a proposed trail system specifications and
design for the preliminary plat entitled "Eagan Hills'. The City
Administrator stated that there was some concern regarding open
active park land for that development area by the City Council.
He further stated that the City Council was also concerned about
the purpose of a trail in the Eagan Hills Development. Park Director
Schmidt explained that the trail is intended to provide a pedestrian
link between Pilot Knob Road and McCarthy Park and therefore carries
more significance as a primary trail than an interior trail. There
was considerable discussion regarding the designation of trails in
lieu of cash donation or park dedication for passive or active park
land. Park Director Schmidt read the.park policy and stated that
according to the policy, it is possible to dedicate trails as park
land in new developments.
After further discussion on the matter and in a motion by
Lundsten, seconded Cooper, all members voting in favor, the following
resolution was offered;
WHEREAS, the Park Committee wishes to encourage trails
within developments linking park facilities and other points
of interest in Eagan: and,
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WHEREAS, in the judgement o
Eagan Hills Development does not
for active park purposes due to
proximity to Patrick Eagan Park;
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f the Park Committee, the
encompass land suitable
its topography and its
and,
WHEREAS, public access from Patrick Eagan Park through
the Eagan Hills development to a proposed future regional
trail on Pilot Knob Road would be a desirable element in
an overall trail plan; and,
WHEREAS, provisions for giving park dedication credit
to developers who dedicate and install such trails do
exist in our present park -ponding policyt and,
WHEREAS, successful installation and utilization of
a trail throughout a neighborhood could establish a
precedent which would encourage more such development.
THEREFORE, the Eagan Park Committee recommends that
park dedication for Eagan Hills be satisfied by the dedi-
cation of land, water and trail as shown on the attached
Exhibit A and the installation by the developer of the trail
according to the following requirements;
1. Trail Specification: 6 ft. wide - 2" asphalt on
4" base.
2. Ad'acent to Pond:: Trail on a bench at least 1
ft. above
,igen
water elevation as estimated by City Engineer.
3. Dedication of Trail and Pond. Fee title or ease-
ment as deemed appropriate by City Attorney. These dedi-
cations shall be at time of final platting.
4. Location of Trail: As shown on exhibit except
to be on north side o Road No. 1 and not located adjacent
to church site.
5. Trail Dedication: As shown except for additional
area adjacent to pond and County Road 30 dedicated for
access to pond.
6. Construction of Trail% To be constructed by
developer at his sole cost with supervision of construction
by City staff. Trail to be completed no later than speci-
fied date 11-•1-79 or at such time as building permits have
been issued for 50 homes, whichever shall occur first.
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STADIUM.PROPOSAL. There was a brief discussion by the Committee
regarding the philosophy of whether the City should consider a
municipal park near regional facilities such as a metropolitan sports
facility. In addition, there was some discussion pertaining to a
policy for cash donation in relation to metro development of regional
facilities. No action was taken on the matter.
The meeting was adjourned.
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