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MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE RAGAN ADVISORY PLANNING COMMISSION
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
DECEMBER 20, 1978
A regular meeting of the Eagan Advisory Planning Commission was held on December
20, 1978, at 7 p.m. at the City Hall. The meeting had been changed from the regu-
larly scheduled dated of December 26th. Those present werei Chairman Harrison,
Members Blomquist, Roszak, and Sperling. Absent -were; Members Hedtke, Hall and
Dembroski. Also present were City Administrator Hedges, City Attorney Hauge, City
Publio Works Director Colbert, City Planner Voss, City Engineer Rosene and City
Zoning Administrator Runkle.
AGENDA. Upon motion duly made and seconded, all members voting yes, it was
Resolved that the agenda be approved as distributed.
MINUTES. Upon motion by Roszak and seconded by Blomquist, all members voting,
yes, it was Resolved that the minutes of the regular meeting of November 28, 1978,
be and hereby are approved as prepared.
PHILLIP BRANDT REZONING - DODD ROAD. The Chairman then convened the continued
public hearing concerning.the application of Phillip T. Brandt for rezoning from
Agricultural to P.-1, Residential Single Family, and preliminary plat approval of
Sunset Addition in Section 25, West of Dodd Road. The staff recommended that the
matter be continued to allow the petitioner to submit an adequate grading and
drainage plan for review by the City staff. Blomquist moved and Sperling seconded
the motion to continue the application for 30 days until the grading and drainage
plans have been submitted. All members voted in favor to continue the hearing.
KOA CAMPGROUND - ROY OHLMANN. The next public hearing that was convened was
a continued public hearing regarding the application of Roy Ohlmann to rezone from
Agricultural to PD -Planned Development and plan approval for KOA Campground adjacent
and West of Pilot Knob Road and South of Train View Manor Addition. Mr. Ohlmann was
present and explained certain changes in the proposal including wider setbacks,
more screening, etc. A number of letters including those from the Minnesota
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Zoological Society, Minnesota Zoo Board, City of Apple Valley and Dakota County
Park Director were reviewed. Also the EAW on the project was submitted to the APC.
There were concerns regarding the impact upon the County Park, the density of the
development, the objective of the City of Eagan to locate a campground closer to
the zoo, e.g. on Johnny Cake Ridge Road. A significant number of adjacent property
owners were present mcst of whom objected to the proposal. The objections from
neighbors included the impact on the general area and the objection that the property
was of a residential nature in the area with the ROA being a commercial type operatic
There were concerns by Planning Commission members that the park may become a
permanent location for mobile homes and trailers. Mr. Ohlmann stated that fire ringE
would be included at the site if the PCA permits such rings. He further stated that
utilities would have to be extended through two adjacent property owners in order
to get to the site. The 20 acre site would include 219 camping sites. After
considerable discussion, Blomquist moved and Sperling seconded the motion to recommer.
denial of the application with all members voting in favor for reasons including
those above and the following:
1. There does not appear to be adequate access to the zoo according to Eagan
City Council recommendations.
2. The development appears to be too dense consisting of 219 spaces on 20
acres.
3. The proposed use is not consistent with that shown on the August 1975 zoo
area development guide.
4. The intended use does not conform with the mixed residential use according
to the Eagan Land Use Guide.
5. The Planner'.s report of November 21, 1978. recommended certain conditions
be fulfilled prior to approval of the proposed use. All members voted in favor.
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It was also recommended by the APC that the applicant negotiate with the Dakota
County Board or with the Zoo Board for a site within a Dakota County Park or Zoo
area.
NORTHWESTERN NMAL LIFE REZONING - EAGANDALE CENTER INDUSTRIAL PARK. The
next public hearing was convened by Chairman Harrison concerning the application of
Northwestern?•Sutual Life Insurance Company for preliminary plat approval covering
Lots 8 - 24, Block 4, Eagandale Center Industrial Park No. 3. The purpose was to
place the existing buildings on individual lots. Mr. Tom Davis appeared for the
applicant. The report of the Planner dated December 14, 1978, was reviewed. Roszak
moved and Sperling seconded the motion, all members voted in favor, to recommend
approval of the application provided, however, that the conditions that were submitte
by the Planner in his report including cross easements be complied with.
WALTER POWERS WAIVER AND VARIANCE - CLIFF ROAD. The Chairman then convened
the public hearing regarding the application of Walter Powers and Mr. Ostendorf for
waiver of subdivision regulation from platting and for variance of two acres to
allow building permit for single family home on a three acre Agricultural zoned
parcel South of Cliff Road on Holland Lake. Mark Parranto appeared for the applicant
The report of the Planner dated December 14, 1978, was reviewed indicating a number
of issues that should be resolved. There was concern as to the proximity to the
Dakota County park and whether it ought to be acquired by Dakota County for park
purposes. A letter from Chuck Lowery, the Dakota County Park Director, December 30,
1977, indicating that the County would not be able to acquire the site was read.
There were septic tank problems and possible intrusion to the lake. It was noted
that Cliff Road will eventually require 150 foot right of way. After discussion,
Roszak moved and Harrison seconded the motion to recommend denial of the application
because of access problems to County Road #32, intrusion on the park and Holland
Lake, that it does not comply with the master land use plan providing for park use
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and possible setback variance problems. All members voted in favor. Chairman
Harrison then requested that the staff study the proposed use of the property
including the possibility that the County Board reconsider its policy of acquiring
small isolated parcels adjacent to the Dakota County park because of their undesir-
ability for development purposes and report back to the Council with a proposed
resolution for submission to the Dakota County Board.
RASMUSSEN ADDITION REZONING AND PRELIMINARY PLAT. The Chairman then convened
the public hearing regarding the application of Donald Rasmussen and J.P.R. Park,
'n_. for rezoning Lot 1, Rasmussen Addition to P,-2 zoning from R-1 and for prelimina:
plat approval of a revised plat of Rasmussen Addition to be labelled Lake Park
Addition. Mr. Phil Carlson of Howard Dahlgren Associates appeared for the applicatic
as did Nark Parranto. The increase would be from 16 single family lots to 21 single
family lots and 1 duplex lot with the duplex lot at the corner of Cedar Crest and
Cliff Road. The location of the gas pipe line easement would be moved Southerly
25 feet to make the duplex lot more useable. The average square footage of the lot
is 20,000 square feet on a parcel of 15.87 acres. It was noted that the Lot 11 lot
line was adjusted according to the Planner's recommendation and that North tip into
Thomas Lake would be acquired from the Dunn & Curry with Cash contribution to the
City for park. The tip of land into Thomas Lake on the West owned by Richard Sherer
was discussed. Mr. Cedarberg, the owner of Lot 11, Rasmussen Addition, was present
and objected to the small lots, the replatting of the lots 13, 14, and 15 in Lake
Park Addition because of the size of the lots and other objections. Mr. and Mrs.
Sherer were also present and indicated that they objected to the duplex zoning on
Cliff P.oad. After considerable discussion, Roszak moved and Blomquist seconded the
motion, all members voted in favor, to recommend denial of the rezoning of the lot
at Cl+.ff and Cedar Crest to R-2 because it would be spot zoning and out of character
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with the rest of the immediate neighborhood. Roszak then moved to recommend denial
of the preliminary plat because it would change the character of the neighborhood.
There was no second and the motion died. It was noted that the subdivision could
be developed as Rasmussen Addition with gravel road and septic tanks. There was
no recommendation from the APC.
FEDERAL LAND COMPANY SITE AND BUILDING PLANS FOR RESTAURANT. The application
of Federal Land Company for site and building plan approval for a restaurant on
Lot 1, Block 2, Bicentennial Third Addition at Yankee Square Shopping Center was
next considered. The conditional use permit had been approved by the City Council
for restaurant and liquor contingent upon approval of detailed site and building
plans. The restaurant will seat 225 persons and be 5,700 square feet in size. The
Planner's report of December 13th was reviewed but the site and building plans were
not submitted. Sperling moved and Roszak seconded the motion, all members voted
yes, to continue the application for 30 days for submission of the additional
information.
ROBERT JOHNSON AND DAVID JOHNSON REZONING AND PRELIMINARY PLAT - SECTION 31.
The public hearing concerning the application of Robert R. Johnson and David
A. Johnson to rezone and preliminary plat approval of a 3.31 acre parcel in Section
31 was next convened. After motion was duly made by Roszak and seconded by Blomquis±
all members voting in favor, it was Resolved that the public hearing be,continued
for 30 days for submission of the required information from the applicants.
GEORGE SAAD RESTAURANT - 7/11 STORE. Mr. Dale Runkle informally presented the
proposed use of the former 7/11 storeon Yankee Doodle Road for use of restaurant by
Mr. and Mrs. George P. Saad. He indicated that there will be a conditional use
permit needed for wine and beer licenses and that all information required had not
been submitted at the present time. Roszak moved and Blomquist seconded the motion,
all membersvoted in favor, to continue the matter until the next meeting.
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COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TIME SCHEDULE. John Voss, City Planner, submitted a propose,
time schedule for meetings regarding the review and approval of the comprehensive
plan during 1979 by the Advisory Planning Commission. There was discussion concerns.
the need to prepare the comprehensive plan to follow the alignment of proposed
I -35E noting that the A-1 Alignment had been used in the past. The first scheduled
meeting will be on January 9, 1979, at 7 p.m. at the City Hall.
CUES MAR EAST FIRST ADDITION. Dale Runkle showed a sketch of the proposed
Ches Mar Ecst First Addition to include the proposed land for park and land surround.
the park in the Ches Mar East development area. He indicated that the revised plat
will be submitted to the City but that Ches Mar East First Addition is the only
subdivided area within the plat.
ADJOUPJ=. . Upon motion duly made and seconded, the meeting adjourned at
approximately 9:10 p.m.
DATED: December 20, 1978. PHH
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE EAGAN ADVISORY PLANNING COMMISSION
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
DECEMBER 20, 1978
A regular meeting of the Eagan Advisory Planning Commission was held on December
20, 1978, at 7 p.m. at the City Hall
larly scheduled dated of December 26th
The meeting had been changed from the regu-
Those present were: Chairman Harrison,
Members Blomquist, Roszak, and Sperling. Absent -were; Members Hedtke, Hall and
Dembroski. Also present were City Administrator Hedges, City Attorney Hauge, City
Public.Works Director Colbert, City Planner Voss, City Engineer Rosene and City
Zoning Administrator Runkle.
AGENDA. Upon motion duly made and seconded, all members voting yes, it was
Resolved that the agenda be approved as distributed.
MINUTES. Upon motion by Roszak and seconded by Blomquist, all members voting,
.yes, it was Resolved that the minutes of the regular meeting of November 28, 1978,
be and hereby are approved as prepared.
PHILLIP BRANDT REZONING - DODD ROAD. The Chairman then convened the continued
public hearing concerning the application of Phillip T. Brandt for rezoning from
Agricultural to R-1, Residential Single Family, and preliminary plat approval of
Sunset Addition in Section 25, West of Dodd Road. The staff recommended that the
matter be continued to allow the petitioner to submit an adequate grading and
drainage plan for review by the City staff. Blomquist moved and Sperling seconded
the motion to continue the application for 30 days until the grading and drainage
plans have been submitted. All members voted in favor to continue the hearing.
KOA CAMPGROUND - ROY OHLMANN. The next public hearing that was convened was
a continued public hearing regarding the application of Roy Ohlmann to rezone from
Agricultural to PD -Planned Development and plan approval for KOA Campground adjacent
and West of Pilot Knob Road and South of Twin View Manor Addition. Mr. Ohlmann was
present and explained certain changes in the proposal including, wider setbacks,
more screening, etc. A number of letters including those from the Minnesota
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Zoological Society, Minnesota Zoo Board, City of Apple Valley and Dakota County
Park Director were reviewed. Also the EAW on the project was submitted to the APC.
There were concerns regarding the impact upon the County Park, the density of the
development, the objective of the City of Eagan to locate a campground closer to
the zoo, e.g. on Johnny Cake Ridge Road. A significant number of adjacent property
owners were present mcst of whom objected to the proposal. The objections from
neighbors included the impact on the general area and the objection that the property
was of a residential nature in the area with the ROA being a commercial type operatic
There were concerns by Planning Commission members that the park may become a
permanent location for mobile homes and trailers. Mr. Ohlmann stated that fire ring:
would be included at the site if the PCA permits such rings. He further stated that
utilities would have to be extended through two adjacent property owners in order
to get to the.site. The 20 acre site would include 219 camping sites. After
considerable discussion, Blomquist moved and Sperling seconded the motion to recommen
denial of the application with all members voting in favor for reasons including
those above and the following:
1. There does not appear to be adequate access to the zoo according to Eagan
City Council recommendations.
2. The development appears to be too dense consisting of 219 spaces on 20
acres.
3. The proposed use is not consistent with that shown on the August 1975 zoo
area development guide.
4. The intended use does not conform with the mixed residential use according
to the Eagan Land Use Guide.
5. The Planner's report of November 21, 1978. recommended certain conditions
be fulfilled prior to approval of the proposed use. All members voted in favor.
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It was also recommended by the APC that the applicant negotiate with the Dakota
County Board or with the Zoo Board for a site within a Dakota County Park or Zoo
area.
NORTHWESTERN NUTUAL LIFE REZONING - EAGANDALE CENTER INDUSTRIAL PARK. The
next public hearing was convened by Chairman Harrison concerning the application of
Northwestern?4utual Life Insurance Company for preliminary plat approval covering
Lots 8 - 24, Block 4, Eagandale Center Industrial Park No. 3. The purpose was to
place the existing buildings on individual lots. Mr. Tom Davis appeared for the
applicant. The report of the Planner dated December 14, 1978, was reviewed. Roszak
moved and Sperling seconded the motion, all members voted in favor, to recommend
approval of the application provided, however, that the conditions that were submitte
by the Planner in his report including cross easements be complied with.
WALTER POWERS WAIVER AND VARIANCE - CLIFF ROAD. The Chairman then convened
the public hearing regarding the application of Walter Powers and Mr. Ostendorf for
waiver of subdivision regulation from platting and for variance of two acres to
allow building permit for single family home on a three acre Agricultural zoned
parcel South of Cliff Road on Holland Lake. Mark Parranto appeared for the applicant
The report of the Planner dated December 14, 1978, was reviewed indicating a number
of issues that should be resolved. There was concern as to the proximity :o the
Dakota County park and whether it ought to be acquired by Dakota County for park
purposes. A letter from Chuck Lowery, the Dakota County Park Director, December 30,
1977, indicating that the County would not be able to acquire the site was read.
There were septic tank problems and possible intrusion to the lake. It was noted
that Cliff road will eventually require 150 foot right of way. After discussion,
Roszak moved and Harrison seconded the motion to recommend denial of the application
because of access problems to County Road #32, intrusion on the park and Holland
Lake, that it does not comply with the master land use plan providing for park use
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and possible setback variance problems. All members voted in favor. Chairman
Harrison then requested that the staff study the proposed use of the property
including the possibility that the County Board reconsider its policy of acquiring
small isolated parcels adjacent to the Dakota County park because of their undesir-
ability for development purposes and report back to the Council with a proposed
resolution for submission to the Dakota County Board.
RASMUSSEN ADDITION REZONING AND PRELIMINARY PLAT. The Chairman then convened
the public hearing regarding the application of Donald Rasmussen and J.P.R. Park,
lnz. for rezoning Lot 1, Rasmussen Addition to P.-2 zoning from R-1 and for prelimina,
plat approval of a revised plat of Rasmussen Addition to be labelled Lake Park
Addition. Mr. Phil Carlson of Howard Dahlgren Associates appeared for the applicatic
as did Mark Parranto. The increase would be from 16 single family lots to 21 single
family lots and 1 duplex lot with the duplex lot at the corner of Cedar Crest and
Cliff Road. The location of the gas pipe line easement would be moved Southerly
25 feet to make the duplex lot more useable. The average square footage of the lot
is 20,000 square feet on a parcel of 15.87 acres. It was noted that the Lot 11 lot
line was adjusted according to the Planner's recommendation and that North tip into
Thomas Lake would be acquired from the Dunn & Curry with cash contribution to the
City for park. The tip of land into Thomas Lake on the West owned by Richard Sherer
was discussed. Mr. Cedarberg, the owner of Lot 11, Rasmussen Addition, was present
and objected to the small lots, the replatting of the lots 13, 14, and 15 in Lake
Park Addition because of the size of the lots and other objections. Mr. and Mrs.
Sherer were also present and indicated that they objected to the duplex zoning on
Cliff Road. After considerable discussion, Roszak moved and Blomquist seconded the
motion, all members voted in favor, to recommend denial of the rezoning of the lot
at Cliff and Cedar Crest to R-2 because it would be spot zoning and out of charactez
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with the rest of the immediate neighborhood. Roszak then moved to recommend denial
of the preliminary plat because it would change the character of the neighborhood.
There was no second and the motion died. It was noted that the subdivision could
be developed as Rasmussen Addition with gravel road and septic tanks. There was
no recommendation from the APC.
FEDERAL LAND COMPANY SITE AND BUILDING PLANS FOR RESTAURANT. The application
of Federal Land Company for site and building plan approval for a restaurant on
Lot 1, Block 2, Bicentennial Third Addition at Yankee Square Shopping Center was
next considered. The conditional use permit had been approved by the City Council
for restaurant and liquor contingent upon approval of detailed site and building
plans. The restaurant will seat 225 persons and be 5,700 square feet in size. The
Planner's report of December 13th was reviewed but the site and building plans were
not submitted. Sperling moved and Roszak seconded the motion, all members voted
yes, to continue the application for 30 days for submission of the additional
information.
ROBERT JOHNSON AND DAVID JOHNSON REZONING AND PRELIMINARY PLAT - SECTION 31.
The public hearing concerning the application of Robert R. Johnson and David
A. Johnson to rezone and preliminary plat approval of a 3.31 acre parcel in Section
31 was next convened. After motion was duly made by Roszak and seconded by Blomquist
all members voting in favor, it was Resolved that the public hearing be continued
for 30 days for submission of the required information from the applicants.
GEORGE SAAD RESTAURANT - i/11 STORE. Mr. Dale Runkle informally presented the
proposed use of the former 7/11 storeon Yankee Doodle Road for use of restaurant by
Mr. and Mrs. George P. Saad. He indicated that there will be a conditional use
permit needed for wine and beer licenses and that all information required had not
been submitted at the present time. Roszak moved and Blomquist seconded the motion,
all membersvoted in favor, to continue the matter until the next meeting.
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COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TIME SCHEDULE. John Voss, City Planner, submitted a propose,
time schedule for meetings regarding the review and approval of the comprehensive
plan during 1979 by the Advisory Planning Commission. There was discussion concerns,
the need to prepare the comprehensive plan to follow the alignment of proposed
I=35E noting that the A-1 Alignment had been used in the past. The first scheduled
meeting will be on January 9, 1979, at 7 p.m. at the City Hall.
CHES NAR EAST FIRST ADDITION. Dale Runkle showed a sketch of the proposed
Ches Mar Eest First Addition to include the proposed land for park and land surround.
the park in the Ches Mar East development area. He indicated that the revised plat
will be submitted to the City but that Ches Mar East First Addition is the only
subdivided area within the plat.
ADJOUPM...tNT. Upon motion duly made and seconded, the meeting adjourned at
approximately 9:10 p.m.
DATED: December 20, 1978. PME
X. 10:00 - Adjournment
*For those persons who are not on the agenda
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AGENDA
REGULAR MEETING
PARK commiTTEE
• EAGAN, MINNESOTA
CITY HALT.
JUNE: 30,, 1977
7:30 P.M.
I.
7:30
- Call to Order, Pledge of Allegiance.
II.
7:35
- Approval of May 16,1977 minute.
III.
7:40
- Establishment of Agenda
IV.
7:45
- Reception of Reports and Communications
A. Council meetings-Tom Fledges.
B. Consultants (delayed until 9:00P.M.)
C. 'Park Department Report
D. Special Meetings
1. Development Committee
E. Other
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V.
9:00
- Presentations by Developers
A. Jim Frisbee letter re: path dedication-, _
B. John Voss 1 '-
1. Oak Chase Park
2. Gabbert neve'lopment "
3. MLCrae Addition
4. Park Concept Plans
VI.
9:15
- Old Business
A.. Donneywood Park
B. Other
VII.
9:30
- New Business
A. Appointment of Trail Committee
VilI.
9:40
- Visitors to be heard*
IX.
9:SO
- For Your Information
X. 10:00 - Adjournment
*For those persons who are not on the agenda
PARK COMMITTEE AGENDA BACKGROUND MATERIAL
COUNCIL ACTIONS
Tom Hedges will report on matters from the Council.
The Eagan Park Ordinance was adopted by the City Council at the June 21st
meeting and copies will be available for distribution at the park
committee meeting. Arrangements are also being made for publication
which will determine the effective date of said ordinance.
PARK DEPT. REPORT
The Park Dept. reports that this year's expanded recreation program
is in full swing. We are very pleased with the staff we were able
to employ this year. Dorothy Peterson is supervising 28 people in
the Summer in the Park Programs, Tumbling and Dance classes and Tennis
lessons. We are striving for high quality performance in all of these
areas.
Five additional people have also been added to the Park Dept. staff
as temporary CETA employees. Two persons will cut diseased trees
from public lands for the next 6 months, two will prune,water and other
wise improve our existing plantings for 6 months and one person has
been added to the regular staff for one year.
A Public Hearing was held Monday June 27, 1977 regarding the upgrading
of Pilot Knob Rd from Yankee Doodle to 494. At the cities request
the county has drawn in the trail on both sides of the South mile and
on the east side of the North Mile. The map should be available for
review during the park committee meeting. No decision has been made
on who will pay for the trail if it is included in the final project.
However, the Dakota County Planning Commission recommended a resolution
which the County Board passes directing the County Parks and Planning
Dept. to establish a county wide trail plan and to investigate mutual
and/or supplementary funding. See enclosed resolution.
Efforts will be made to continue to pursue the construction of this trail
and county's participation in the cost if regional funding is not
available.
A second hearing was held regarding storm sewer along the road. See
enclosed engineers report. Concerns have been raised regarding the
suggested additional pond proposed to be located in Country Home
Heights Park and regarding possible increased run off into the park.
The Park committee may wish to speak to this in a formal manner.
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
A report from the Development Committee which toured the proposed parks
to be constructed will be incorporated into the presentation by John
Voss.
DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
LETTER FROM JIM FRISBEE
Jim Frisbee wishes to discuss his letter regarding park dedication and
assessments. The Park Committee certainly agrees that cost per lot should
be at a higher figure. It is suggested that Ken Damlo, the
administrative intern, could be asked to study this matter and help
obtain background information with the idea of the Park Committee again
asking the Council to increase the per unit park dedication dollars figures.
A letter from Paul Hauge regarding Oak Chase 4 and an agreement concerning
dedication is included for your review. Settling the matter of these
assessments is not in the park committee's province at this time so it
is suggested that this matter be referred to staff and that Paul
Hauge work out the agreement subject to their recommendations.
John Voss will discuss an alternate layout for Oak Chase Park for
Park Committee review.
This is suggested as an alternative if Arnie Carlson is allowed to
purchase land from Mr. Frisbee in order to relocate his driveway. If
the park committee is favor of this they could require a rezoning.
It is suggested that efforts to finalize the agreement on the Oak Chase
dedication should be referred to staff when the layout of the park
is finalized.
Dave Gabbert will discuss park dedication for Ches Mar III. Some
members of Planning Commission have expressed an interest in the pond
and an area around it being dedicated as public park.
Park Director Schmidt has toured the site and feels that park land at
'this location would be inappropriate. We already have a small dedication
in Ches Mar I. While the area involved contains a small steep sided
pond and some beautifully wooded terrain it is too small to serve a
public function. The suggestion to the Park Committee is that the
Committee recommend to the Council that this area not be accepted
as park dedication and that cash per unit be paid by the
developer.
The Park Dept. has reviewed the preliminary plat for McKee Addition on
Yankee Doodle Rd. and Heritage Lane. This is a replat of 2 of lot 2 and
lots 3-10 Block 2 Letendre Addition into 16 R-1 lots. This results in
7a additional lots. The planning commission report indicates that the
7 additional lots should be subject to park dedication. Paul Hauge
takes the position that we have 16 new lots which could be subject to park
dedication. Mr. Vince Kennedy did not dispute this interpretation at the
planning commission meeting. Final resolution of this and other similar
situations will probably come from Council action on this matter.
DONNEYWOOD
At the last park committee meeting the question of installation of the
walkway on outlot A and the shaping of the backlot lines as previously
promised by the developer in Donneywood Addition was referred to the
Park Director.
Park Director Schmidt and City Engineer Bob Rosene have met with the
property owners and discussed the present park and its future potentia].
The feelings of the property owners is that the backlot portion of the
park should be preserved as a natural area.
Comments of the Park Director are as follows: The park area is a unique
natural area Ach interesting wildlife can be observed there at present.
Additional land should be dedicated contiguous to the park when the
adjacent property develops. When that occurs the best access to the
area will probably be at Outlot E. The installation of the pathway at
Outlot A could be delayed at this time since it serves little useful
purpose. It can always be installed in the future if conditions warrant.
The funds to cover this construction should be deducted from the
development bond and deposited in the park site fund designated for
the purpose of improving entrance to Donneywood either at Outlot A or E.
This recommendation is based on the fact that after touring the park and
discussing it in depth with nearby residents I believe that the
opposition to the path stems from a genuine concern about preserving
the natural aspects of the park area rather than a self-serving desire
to keep it private and unused.
It is also recommended, however, that the filling of the backyards to
provide walking access around the pond should be accomplished. Some
engineering questions relating to this remain unanswered at the time of
this writing. Additional information should be available at the meeting.
At the last meeting the appointment of a trail subcommittee of the
Park Committee was scheduled to be done at this time.
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FOR YOUR MFORMATION
The location of the pathway on Outlot A in Donneywood Addition
has been agreed upon by the affected property owners after discussion
with the Park Director. The Council was polled regarding possible
compromises and the final agreement is as follows:
The pathway will be located 1 foot south of the North edge of the Outlot,
and will be 4 feet in width and therefore will be 5 feet from the south
edge of the Outlet and 7 feet from John Tancheff's house.
A letter to this effect has been written to Cadence Corporation and work
on the pathways is in process.
The Pagan Pdrk l:onunittcc, Park Director and the Park Department staff
have been awarded certificates of appreciation by the Cedar Athletic
Association for outstanding support given to their Baseball -Softball
program and the July 4th Junior Olympics. Their favorable comments
are greatly appreciated. .
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AGENDA
REGULAR MEETING
PARK COMMITTEE �
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
CITY HALL `
JULY 14, 1977
7:30 P.M.
I.
7:30
- Call to Order, Pledge of allegiance.
II.
7:32
- Approval of June 30, 1977 minutes.
III.
7:35
- Establishment of Agenda
IV.
7:40
- Presentations by Developers
A. Hilltop Estates, Dunn E Curry,
Rod Hardy
B. Willmus Property, Tom h'illmus,
Steve Thompson, .Joe Boehave
V.
8:30
- Reception of Reports and Communications
A. Council meetings -Tom Hedges.
B. Consultants
C. Park Department Report
1. Park Dedication Research
2. Gabbert Development
3. Cliff Rd. Trail
D. Special Meetings
1. Development Committee
E. Other
VI. 9:30 - Old Business
A. Park Construction Plans and Contra Ct.
final review and recommendation
B. Donneywood Park
C. Carlson driveway relocation, .Arnie
Carlson, Jim Frisbee
D. Park Dedication on Re -Subdivided Lots
VII. 9:45 - New Business
VIII. 9:50 - Visitors to be heard*
IX. 9:55 - For Your Information
X. 10:00 - Adjournment
*For those persons who are not on -the agenda
PARK AGENDA BACKGROUND INFORMATION
Rod [lardy representing Dunn P, Curry will present a preliminary plat for Hilltop
Estates, an 80 acre development at the North East Corner of the intersection of
County Roads 30 6 31.
Steve Thompson, Jim Boehave, and Tom Willmus will present 3 plats for residential
development for approximately 75 acres on Johnny Cake Ridge Road, North of
Cliff Road. No additional information is available at this time.
Gabbert Development: At the 7-6-77 Council Meeting the preliminary plat for
Ches Mar '3rd Addition was approved with the exception that the park committee
suggestion for a trail between 2 lots leading into the well site was referred
back to the Park Committee with the suggestion that it be relocated in the
Cliff Road Right of way. Bob Rosene agrees with this recommendation since all
that will be located on that section of the well site are 2 large reservoirs.
Careful consideration should be given where said trail should be located so as
to interconnect with the proposed future regional trail on Cliff Rd. Also
consideration should be given as to whether the path way should he installed
at this time.
At a recent meeting with the Dakota County Highway Department, the Eagan
City Council reconfirmed their request that the width of 13 feet for berm
area adjacent to the cul-de-sac in Woodgate be maintained.
John loss will present final plans and cost estimates and a contract for
supervision of park construction for approval by the Park Committee and a
recommendation to the City Council that the plans be approved, and that
John Voss he authorized to prepare bids and specifications and advertise for
bids for the proposed contruction. lie will also present the contract for
supervision of the construction for acceptance and recommendation to the
Council.
DONNEYWOOD BACKGROUND INFORMATION
In 1973 when the final plat for this development was approved
the park committee specified that the park dedication for
Donneywood would consist of preservation of the natural area
surrounding the pond. Shoreline on LeMay Lake was also
included in the dedication. Public_ access was to be provided
to the natural area by 2 six foot wide asphalt pathways to
be installed on outlots A and B by the developer. Access
to the LeMay Lake portion of the dedication was.to be provided
adjacent to outlot E. The Developer also agreed to provide fill
for the southern area of the park adjacent to outlot E and at
the rear of adjacent lots to improve access and to properly
blend the lot lines into the park land.
Requests to expedite pathway construction and a request to
eliminate one pathway have been received from residents..Also
a petition from the Donneywood neighborhood with an alternate
pathway proposal has been received by the Park Department.
Unfortunately the cover sheet on the petition contains much
incorrect information so a great deal of misunderstanding
exists. Bob Rosene should be present to clarify the situation
relating to the pond level and fill.
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(1)
Aiiai{::A iPr„ idO=C.SAT - 7 1)C.; IN WOOD d SIDE". 70 PARK DOAFw Pii010;;A?:
Since the proposal to construct a walking,path from outlet A to outlet
would sacrifice 21% of the wetlands area (10,000 sq. ft. out of a total of
47,197 sq. ft.) vie feel that an alternative proposal would be more consistant
with good conservation practises, and would cause significantly ]ess danale to
the sensitive ecosystem of the pond area.
The area set aside as park in the Donnywood addition does not provide land
suitable for playground or recreation. One outstanding feature is, however,
a pond of approximately 45,000 sq, ft. This pond serves as a wild life habitat
in it:5 rresent form, visited by such species as ducks, muskrat, green herons,
turtles,black-hooded night herons, sandpipers, -egrets, and kingfishers. To
significantly allow mankind to intrude upon this enclave of wilderness would
obviously upset the ecosystem of such a small and fragile wildlife preserve.
Preserving the characteristics of this pond while providing an opportu-
nity for all interested persons to observe the wildlife which inhabit the pond
are significant features of our alternative proposal. This proposal requires
no filling of the pond, and would require the cutting"of no trees.
A path of approximately 500 ft.'in'length would -enter the park on the
Jurdy Road frontage adjacent to outlot E and follow a line parallel to the ist
line of the 5 z of the NV .1 of section 10 before curving into the open space
between the pond and Lema�sLake. This path would terminate in an observation
deck which would discourage further intrusion upon the pond area and would
prevent disturbance of wildlife.
(2)
There are several advantages to,,this plan as opposed to the Park Board's
plan for a path along the southwest boundary of the park.
1. Access to Lemays Lake and to the park are assured for all
2. Wildlife will not be driven from the park by through traffic
3. 21% of -the actual water area-will;not be filled.-,
4. Observers will be in abetter position to observe the wildlife
j. Walking distance to Lemays Lake will be shorter for most residents
6. A wildlife area would be opened to the Iligh density housing area of
Highsite apartments
7. Cost to the Park Board will be I considerably lower.than the Park Board's own
proposal
8. Unlike the Park Board's porposal,-the Residents' plan provides for access
to Lemays Lake as well as to the pond area
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PROPOSAL FOR A 7:ATUPP. TRAIL IN A PARK LOCATvi IW LONNT.-70UD ADDITION:
We, the undersigned, propose.to the Eagan Park Board, a walking trail to
enter the Donnywood Addition park lands from Jurdy Road, parallel and as.close .
as possible to, the northwest edge .of,outlot_E.' Said path will extend to a line .
parallel with and 1133.40 ft west of the,east line of the Sz of the W. of
section 10, and follow said line to a point 30 feet from the shore of Lemays
Lake, there to terminate in an observation deck.
Said path to be constructed without disturbing wildlife habitat cutside
of an area five feet on either side of the center line of the path, the surface
of the path to be of a material other than concrete or asphalt paving.
We further propose that this path be constructed as a alternative to the
proposed path along the southwest boundary of the park.
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A request from a resident of Donneywood Addition to omit the
installation of the pathway on outlot A which is part of the
original development agreement has been received by the park
committee.
Requests have also been received from residents adjacent to
outlot B for immediate installation of the,proposed pathway
at that location. The developer wishes to install both
pathways at the same time.
The Development Committee has toured the site on several
occassions, members of the City Staff have met with
residents of Donneywood and the surrounding neighborhood
and the following recommendations have been made to the
Park Committee.
The Development Committee recommends that:
1. Six foot wide asphalt pathways should be installed
on Outlots A and B according to the agreement,
made between the developer and the City Council.
as a condition of final plat approval.
a. To provide clearly defined public
access to the city park land.
b. To provide access to the land locked
parcel adjacent to the park land.
2. The Park Committee should also add additional
footage leading into the park area to the trail on
outlot;A':: to prevent it's ending abruptly at the
rear, lot lines.
3. Fill should be provided by the developer in the
low area in the southern portion of the park
as originally agreed at the time of platting.
a. To allow walking access through the
natural area from one side of the park
to the other.
b. To provide better access to the park in
the area adjacent to Outlot E.
HAUGE & HOEY, P.A.--
Attorneys at Law
3908 SIBLEY MEMORIAL HIGHWAY
EAGAN (ST. PAUL). MINNESOTA 55122
.:.W PT naUGE July 5. 1977. •, c;,i,..:
TO: City Council
CITY OF EAGAN
FROM: Paul H. Hauge
RE: PARK DEDICATION ON RE -SUBDIVIDED LOTS
Where a tract which was platted prior to the passage of Eagan's Park
Dedication Ordinance is later presented for replatting, the question arises
as to whether the tract can be required to dedicate for parks, or whether
the prior platting approval "grandfathers" in the tract so that nark dedi-
cation cannot be required. The further question arises as to whether, if
the first platting is exempt from dedication, the re -platting is subject to
dedication to the extent that the number of lots is increased in the new nlat.
The applicable statute, M.S.A.§462.358 Subd.2, speaks'of "subdivisions
to be developed" and provides that "a reasonable proportion of each proposed
subdivision be dedicated to the public." This suggests that if the subdi-
vision is yet to be developed, dedication could be required of the. entire
subdivision. However, this would result in an inequity between old, exempt
subdivisions and old subdivisions which are no longer exempt because of re -
platting. On the other hand, not to require dedication of re -platted land
would result in an inequity between land presented for platting approval
which has not been platted before and is subject to dedication and that land
which was platted before park dedication was required and is exempt.
If the :area is to be completely re -platted, it seems that tho old
plat is ❑cxL-to-useless in practical terms, and that the fact of prior nlatt-
ing should not stand in the way of park dedication. A useless prior plat
should be no different from no prior platting at all, since neither is holp-
ful to the City in its planning decisions. The purpose of §462.358 is to
aid cities in carrying on planning and to allow a prior plat which will not;
be abrogated to stand in the way of the statute's purpose seems unfair to
the city. So it is arguable that park dedication can be required of land
presented for replatting.
Thegame skettla alsa he top of additional lots if the City decides
not to require dedication of the entire tract. The new lots will increase
the burden on parks beyond the burden which the old plat would have had.
Because of this, it seems clear that dedication can be required of the addi-
tional lots in a re -platted area. ---
'there is no clear legal basis for this conclusion, at least in Minn -
os t?La, but it would appear reasonable to require park dedication for the new
lots. '
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cc: Barb Schmidt
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FOR YOUR INFORMATION
The Eagan Park Department has received a gift from the
Eagan Lion's Club of funds to purchase a heavy duty ping
pong table and accessory equipment for the Rahn Building.
A letter of thanks has been written by the department
and plans are underway to open the building for teen
recreational activities.
Permission has been granted by Blue Cross for the install-
ation of a second soccer field on their property. This will
be of great help in meeting the needs of the Eagan Athletic
Organization for fields for their fall programs.
A specific chemical,B.S.M.A.,to kill sand burs has been
recently approved for use. Both Country Home Heights and,
Highview Parks have heavy infestation of this weed. Our
contract sprayer will treat the two parks using this new
chemical for $147.00 or $21.00 per acre. This would be in
addition to the broadleaf weed control program. The Park
Director will secure a recommendation from the U. of Minn.
before ordering the application.
REGULAR MEETING
PARD COPPIITTEE
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
CITY HALL
AUGUST 11, 1977
7:30 P.M.
Paul Hauge
AGENDA
I. 7:30 -
Call to Order, Pledge Of Allegiance.
II. 7:3S -
Approval of .July 14, 1977 minutes.
III. 7:40 -
Establishment of Agenda
IV. 7:45
- Presentations by Developers
A. Willmus Property, Tom Willmus,
Steve Thompson, JOe Bochave
V. 8:15
- Reception of Reports and Communications.
A. Council meeting§ -Tom Hedges.
B. Consultants
C. Park Department Report
1. Park Dedication Research -Ken Damlo
2. Gabbert Development Trail
3. Donneywood update
D. Special Meetings
1. Development Committee
E. Other
VI. 9:00 - Old Business
A. Carlson driveway relocation, Arnie
Carlson, JIm Frisbee
VII. 9:15.- New Business
VIII. 9:30 - Visitors to be heard*
IX. 9:45 - For Your Information
X. 10:00 - Adjournment
*Por those persons who are not on the agenda
The August llnth Park Committee Meeting will be' held in the Park
Department offices due to a conflict with an informational meeting
regarding liwy 494 being held by the Highway Dept. at City.Hall on
the same evening.
Also there will be a Special Park Committee Meeting Thursday,
August 18nth to approve the Park Construction Package. This
meeting will he held at.the City Hall at 7:30 P.M.
Because of the growing need for and interest in non -motorized trails in
Dakota County;
The Planning Advisory Commission recommends that the County Board direct
the County Parks Department and the County Planning Department to establish
the needs and priorities in a county -wide trail plan;
And, investigate the possibility of mutual funding of such trails between
the county and municipalities as well as participation with state agencies
such as MVDOT, and also federal sources.
NEIGHBORHOOD 28
1) Methology for Saturation Population of Neighborhood 28
In the determination of the amount of open space or
park space needed for neighborhood 28 the following procedures
are used:
1) The determination of the boundaries of neighborhood 28
2) To define the already developed areas within neighborhood.
28 and determine the holding capacity when these -
developments have a 100 per cent saturation of population.
3) The determination of the amount of undeveloped land
.within neighborhood 28 and project the holding capacity
at 100 per centpopulation saturation. This is done in
accordance with Eagan's land use guide.
The three factors above will define the saturation of
population. or(holding capacity) when neighborhood 28 is
100% developed. 'Once the estimated number of people have
been calculated for neighborhood 28 a determination may be
made for the amount of park land which should be provided
for neighborhood 28.
Neighborhood Boundaries
Attached Exhibit "A" illustrates -the neighborhood
boundaries used in this study. The boundaries are County
Road No. 30 along the north, County Road 31 (Pilot Knob Road)
along the east, County Road 32 (Cliff Road) along the south
and the proposed alignment for I -35E along the east. -
Easements for I -35E have been provided for in Eagan's
Land Use Development Guide. The Minnesota State Highway
Department has completed.the Environmental Impact Statement
in draft form, and.the construction of I -35E should begin in
the near future.
The neighborhood 28 boundaries mentioned above comprise
all o[ Section 28 (640 acres) and the eastern portion of
Section 29 (239.79 acres) for a total of 879.79 acres.
Saturation Population
The projected holding capacity or sat ration population
of neighborhood 28 is estimated at 10,318 ople. This was
determined by the number of dwelling unitSc-- Committed by
approved subdivision and preliminary plats, -rhe remaining
undeveloped land was then calculated according to the Land
Use Guide.
Table l
Development or Owner Acres No. of Dwelling Units Projected Population
Evergreen Park
72
104
units
364
Rasmussen Addition
17.4
16
units
56
Woodgate Addition
40
130
units
409
Woodgate 2nd Addition
40
160
units
355
Woodgate 3rd Addtion
30.42
410
units
420
Clearview E Strohkirch Add.
40
32
units
112-
Blackhawk PUD
240
670
units
3996
Willmas Development 1
9.2
12
units
42
Willmas Development 2
21.42
42
units
147
Willmas Development .;
37.05
67
units
134.5
Totals 547.49 1373 units 6,135.5
Table I is a break down of the proposed development in neighborhood 28. There
is a total 54':49 acres That are in the develf6ent stage, with a holding capacity
o`. 6135.5 people. Table -2 below is a breakdown of the undeveloped land with _n
neigiborhood 28.
Remaining Land
Acres
No. of Dwelling Units
Projected Population
Play Areas
Land
in R-1 zone
130.5 ac
391.5
units
1370.2
Land
it R-2 zone
102.6 ac
615.6
units
1846.0
Land
in R-3 zone
35.2 ac
420.0
units
966.0
Land
in Conmercial
zone
20 acres
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Exi;t!Vark
Land
44 acres
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-_--_Total
Tota 1
.332.3
1,125.6
units
4182.2
Gr.ur;
Total
879.79,ecres
2,798.6
units
10,317_.7
10,318
TI.. Park Area Standards
Park area of open space needs are generally expressed in the number of ball
fields, tennis courts, etc, for a given population. This informationisrevi.ed
periodically and there is not one reconized authoritive source.. Rather the source
US e,1 for this study were a combination wherein thereseemedto be general but not.
exl'ict agreement.
Metro Council Development Guide - Open Space Section
Planning Design Criteria - Joseph DeChiara and Lee Koppelman
National Recreation F, Park Association Standards
Eagan Park Development Guide - May 1973
The requirements are generally as follows
Tennis Courts
l
court for
each 1,500 people'
Play Areas
1
play area
for each 1,000 people
Softball Field
1
field for
each 3,000 people
Football Field
1
field for
each 10,000 people
Neighborhood Park
Area
for above
activities: 2 acres for each 1,000 people.
III. Park Area Needs Neighborhood. 28-29
In reference to table 1 neighborhood no. 28.has a
holding.capacity of 10,318. According to Park Area Standards
the need for active neighborhood facilities are as follows:
Tennis.Courts At least six courts will be
needed. These courts should be
strategicly located.throughout
neighborhood 28.
Play Areas By the requirements stated above
10.play areas.should be provided.
However Eagan's plans are
for larger and fewer parks within
the neighborhood.With Thomas
Lake Park in the SE corner of
neighborhood 28 it may be advisable
to request.a smaller play area,
more centrally.located which
would serve the active'pa_rk re-.
quirements.
Softball Fields_ At least three softball fields
should be provided. Possibly
l'or 2. fields could be incorporated
in the active area in Thomas Lake
Park, with the last being incor-
porated,with a designated play
area in the proposed new park.
Neighborhood Park Area Neighborhood 28 has apparent need
for 20.63 acres (2 acres per 1,000
for 10,318) of neighborhood park
area that can accomodate active
park development. With the large
Thomas Lake Park in the southeast
corner of neighborhood 28 an area
of 6-10 acres more centrally
located would serve the proposed
park needs.
IV. Location of Facilities in Neighborhood 28
The location of the facilities mentioned above may possibly
be split in two locations. First, the.active area in Thomas Lake
Park. Secondly, a 6-10 acre park, which should possibly be
located northeast of Mallard.Park 3rd Addition. This proposed
location fora park will be sited in (Exhibit A)'•
NEIGHBORHOOD 28-29
Park Location
Thomas Lake Pilot Knob 5
Park Cliff Road
New proposed East of Johnny
Park Cake Ridge Rd.
V. Summary
Size
approx.
44 acreas
6-10 acres
Tennis Softball Play
Courts Fields Areas
3 1 1'
3 2 1
Although there_is approximately 40 acres of passive park
area in neighborhood 28, some active park land should be
acquired to fulfill the active park requirements. This
parcel.should be in a more centrally located area as compared
to the Thomas Lake Park. With this additional 6-10 acres of
park land all the park requiremenet6 should be met for the
neighborhood activities.
There is.also a proposed major trail system proposed
along the Northern States Power Company easement. This
should be watched closely when development occurs, so as to
obtain the needed easements for the continuation of this trail
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FOR YOUR INFORMATION
Park Director Schmidt has contacted the Metropolitan Mosquito Control
District which is involved in 2 specific kinds of mosquito control.
One program treats temporary ponding areas to kill larvae while the other
kills adult mosquitos in the air. All our park areas can be included in
the latter. Spraying can even be done on request just prior to picnics
and other special events. She will meet with a representative of the
District and Bob Rosene to update the District maps relating to Eagan
park and ponding areas for increased control of mosquitos.
AGENDA
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REGULAR MEETING
PARK COMMITTEE
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
CITY HALL
OCTOBER 13, 1977
7:30 P.M.
I. 7:30 - Call to Order, Pledge of Allegiance.
II. 7:35 - Approval of September 8, 1977 minutes.
III. 7:40 - Establishinent of Agenda.
IV. 7:45 - Reception of Reports and Other Communications.
A. Council meetings - Tom Hedges
B. Consultants
C. Park Department
1. Review of Park Grants
2. Letter from Timberline Assoc.
3. Recreation Report - D. Peterson
D. Special Meetings
1. Report from Park Dedication Work
Session
2. Development Committee - Duckwood
E. Other
1. Studies of.Sections 15 and 22
2. Trail Committee Assignment
V. 8:30 - Presentations by Developers
A. Duckwood Estates
B. Wilderness Park III
C. Arnie Carlson - Driveway
D. Eagan Hills
VI. 9:00 - Old Business
A. Review of Summer Recreation Program
costs and survey
B. Report on Johathon trip
C. Budget Review
VII. 9:15 - New Business
VIII. '9:30 - Visitors to be heard*
IX. 9:45 - For your information
X. 10:00- Adjournment
*For those persons.who are not on the agenda
PARK COMMITTEE
October 13, 1977 Agenda Background Information
Reports
1. Council Meetings - Tom Hedges will report on recent Council
actions which include the hiring of CETA employee Don Weckop
as a permanent member of the Park Department maintenance crew.
Don is the first CETA employee to be picked up by the City.
Park Director Schmidt was also authorized to prepare a
grant application to the State Department of Natural Resources
for maintenance funds for our existing cross country ski
trails. Dakota County has been gontacted regarding contracting
for maintenance for this coming season. He will also '-
discuss recent Council action ort Wilderness Park II in
requiring cash in escrow for pending park dedication:;"
2. Park Department - The Park Director has submitted a
number of grants to the State Planning Agency for park
acquisition and development and these will be reviewed for
the committee.
Dorothy Peterson will advise the committee on several
recreation programs which are due to begin soon.
3. Special Meetings - Myrel Lun.dsten will discuss items
covered in the Park Dedication Work Session. The next
meeting of this work study group should be scheduled.
John Voss is available the evening of Thursday, October 20
or Wednesday, October 26, and will have a memo regarding
cash dedication which he would like to explain to the group.
9. Neil Coates will report on the Development Committe tour
of Duckwood Estates.
Developers
1. Duckwood Estates.- John Klein will appear to hear the
Park Committee's decision on park dedication for Duckwood
Estates. Paul Hauge has advised the staff that the dedication
was satisfied according to the rules in effect at the time
it was made and, therefore, today's standards for park and
ponding do not apply to this dedication. Bob Rosene is
contacting IDS Properties regarding the promised easement
on their property from the dedicated park land to the pond
referred to as Duckwood Lake.
Agenda Information Memo
October 7, 1977
Page Two
2. Arnold Carlson will present the plat for Wilderness Run
III. A copy of the planners report is enclosed. An approxi-
mately 16 acre parcel immedicately adjacent to this develop-
ment is scheduled to be dedicated by Ed Dunn as soon as the
future alignment of Lexington Avenue is determined.
According to Bob Rosene this should be completed by February,
1978. It would seem that cash per lot would be the
appropriate dedication but consideration could be given to
walkway easements from this plat into the park property.
3. Oak Chase Park Dedication - See memo to the Committee
from the Park Director regarding alternative park dedications
and assessments. The Council has requested a final decision
on this matter so that it may be resolved at the October 18,
1977 City Council meeting.
4. Ea an Hills - Dale Runkle will report on the reaction
of Ro Hadi rdy to the Park Committee's recommendation for
park credit.for tract construction for Eagan Hills.
Old Business
1. Summer Recreation Costs - Dorothy Peterson will discuss
summer recreation cost comparisions as previously requested
by the Park Committee.
2. Dale Runkle will report on the Jonathon Tour.
3. Barb Schmidt will review the current status of the
Park Department Budget.
FOR YOUR INFORMATION
MC CARTHY HOUSE
Park Director Schmidt has met with Mike Landis of the Minnesota Historical
Society regarding the McCarthy (louse in Patrick Eagan Park. Mr. Landis
does not believe that State or Federal agencies would be interested in the
building but suggests that it does have local historical significance if the
City is`,interested in preserving it. The original McCarthy homestead was a 2
story log cabin built from hand hewn logs. The original logs have been
covered with siding on the outside and paneling on the inside and extra
rooms have been added. Restoring it to the original log cabin would entail
a great deal of work. The Minnesota Historical Society could provide technical
assistance and possibly 50% matching funds through a grant-in-aid program
to accomplish this. Once restored the building could be used as a cross
country ski chalet. It would be small but could accomodate a limited
number of people wishing to warm up after skiing or to check over the map
before going out. Skis could also be rented from this location, an
attendant would be needed which is a cost consideration for any of the above uses.
The City of Eagan should decide whether they wish to restore an example of one of
the original homes built in this community. If so,it could be incorporated
into the park system and utilized to a limited extent. The Historical Society
does endorse use of old buildings rather than simply restoring and preserving
them.
If the City feels it is unable to restore the building at this time, Mr. Landis
recommends that it be saved and perhaps evaluated again years in the future.
It could conceivably have more value to future generations than we can see today.
We have encountered no vandalism problems while the building has been empty.
If any do occur the situation could be reevaluated. I recommend that we not use
the building for a tear gas demonstration at this time.
Mr. Landis will be supplying us with information on restoral techniques and available
grant monies. When this information is received we can evaluate the cost of restoring
and utilizing the building.
OAK POND HILLS
Mr. Floyd Forsberg appeared before the City Council on 9-20-77 and was given final
plat approved for Oak Pond Hills subject to park committee recommendation. This
plat consists of 4 one acre lots on Cliff Rd. east of Lakewood Hills.
The plat is too small for land dedication and park needs for the area will be
accomplished under the Lexington South PUD. The final plat has been approved.
The development agreement is ready to be signed.
Therefore; in order to avoid delaying this development for over 20 days, the
Park Director and the Park Committee chairperson have agreed upon and transmitted
to the City Hall,,the recommendation that cash per lot be required from this
developer.
PARK COMMITTEE MEMBERS -TERMS OF OFFICE
The terms of Park Committee members John Roszak, Roger Martin, and Norm
Hagen which were due to expire in November have been extended until the
organizational meeting in January at which time their reappointments will be
considered as well as the previous vacancy created by'the resignation of Bob
Seuer. Park Committee members wishing to be re -appointed to another three
year term should submit a letter to the City Council expressing their interest
in the position.
For Your Information - Cont.
The City of Eagan Park Department has again received a gift of $250.00 from
Bonestroo, Rosene, Anderlik & Associates Inc. to be used for the purchase
of playground or related equipment wherever suitable.
A thank you letter has been written by the Park Director on behalf of
the Park Committee and the City will also respond.
SOUTH DELAWARE HILLS
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The rezoning of the Inver Grove Heights portion of South Delaware
Hills was turned down because "the applicant couldn't show cause that
the area had changed substantially enough to warrant a rezoning."
There was opposition from surrounding five acre property owners. The
City Administrator responded to our letter with the statement that
the question of park dedication was "moot" at this time because of the
above action. A copy of the Park Commiptee letter to the Inver Grove
Heights City Council is enclosed for your review.
CURRENT GRANT APPLICATIONS
Representations from the State Planning Agency and the Metropolitan
Council have recently reviewed the sites involved in our three pending
applications.
Decisions on the tennis court and trail grants are expected in mid-
November and on the Lawcon Grant in mid-December.
COMMUNITY EDUCATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
There is a position available for an Eagan resident from the 197
School District on the Community Education Advisory Council for that
district. •�,,_
There is particular interest in having a member from the Park Committee
bacause of the increasing cooperation between community education and
municipal recreation. Any Park Committee member who qualifies, and
is willing to serve on this committee, should contact Tom Lisic, the
Community Education Director.
Park Committee Members are also urged to suggest other people who might
be interested in this position.
An informational meeting will be held on the Cliff Road improvement
project as a part of the regular Council meeting on October 18.
The matter of trails on Cliff Road will be one of the items discussed.
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For your Information - Cont.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Future park on Willmus property is a recommendation rather than a
committement,because Mallard Park (Willmus) does not have a PUD.
Previous Council action was only a rezoning.
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To make this recommendation more official the Eagan Park Guide Map
should be officially revised.
Other similar items include the additional land recommended adjacent
to South Oaks -
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3060 Woodlark Lane
Eagan, Minnesota
September 26, 1977 ?.
Eagan Park Department
3501 Coachman Road
Eagan, Minnesota 55121
Dear Barb,
We were pleased to learn in our recent Timberline meeting that improvements
to Pilot Knob Park are being planned fot'construction in an orderly and
professional manner. Many residents present that evening expressed their
opinions on the current plans for development of the park. While we are in
agreement with the general plans for development, we have a strong consensus
of opinion that specifically does not desire flood lighting to be included
in the plans for the tennis courts. Residents feel the intense flood lighting
required for tennis courts would not be able to be entirely contained on
public landethereby adversely affecting the privacy of those residing near
the park land. A secondary problem could also arise with excessive noise
into the night from players on lighted courts where occupants desire peace
and quiet in the evening.
It is noted that appropriate security lighting should be installed to
protect equipment in the park and in the "pump house" area. Lighting of
this intensity would not have the adverse flooding effect that would be
created by the proposed tennis court lighting.
Future plans for the park should include consideration of playground equipment
for the many children in the nearby neighborhoods. In other park areas
timber style forts, swings, spring type animals and sand areas have seemed
to fill the recreational needs of children in this age group.
As you are well aware, the residents of Timberline have worked several years
toward the acquisition and development of a Pilot Knob Park. These comments
are meant to be positive and constructive in nature and as a representative
expression of the majority of Timberline residents. We do appreciate your
continuing concern for the quality development of the Eagan Park System.
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Yours very truly,
T RLINE IVIC ASSOCIATION
Arthur M Wallace,,President.
COST COMPARISONS - SUMER IN THE PARK
To definitively compare summer program costs with other communities in the
area was not possible as precisely as I would have preferred. The major
reason being none had broken down attendance and cost figures. Secondly,
the programs vary from community to community so much that in using cost
figures to evaluate a program, one loses sight of the real service the
program gives the community and one can not assess that unless one is aware
of all other alternatives the children have. Such as summer school, day
time athletic association committments and the like.
Rosemount:
Seven week program at 4 parks, run 2 days a week each (like our
Lexington -Burr Oaks), morning and afternoon sessions. Fifth day of the
week was for special events such as field trips, Jr. Olympics etc. Two
leaders per park: Adult leader $3.00 per hour, aide a CETA person --had
2 sets of leaders. No registration fee, charged 25¢ fee for craft projects.
Averaged 10-15 children at a park per session. Projecting cost figures
from this data: $.90 per child per total attendance. This does not
include the craft or special event budget figures which were unavailable
but based solely on leader salary costs.
Shakopee:
Seven week program, five days a week, morning playground sessions,
afternoons for crafts and puppetry. Hired 4 leaders, really 2 leaders
and an aide each. Summer budget of $3450 to cover salaries and craft
supplies. Averaged 35 children per session no reg. fee. Cost per child
per total attendance in the neighborhood of $1.40 per child.
New Brighton:
Six week program at seven sights --no registration fee; 2 leaders per
location. Worked on a salary schedule based on age and experience... example
high school sr. with no exp. $2.40 per hour, college freshman $2.45, college
grad. $2.90 with I yr. exp. High school Sr. $2.50, college freshmna $2.55,
college grad. $3.00. Average salary was $2.90 - 3.00 an hour. Leaders
worked 6 hrs. a day. Had morning, afternoon and evening sessions; averaged
20 children per session. Projected cost per child per total attendance
based on salary alone is $.55 per child. No cost for crafts, athletic
equipment or special events included in this accounting. This is based on
salaries of $1002 per sight; 60 children per day, S days a week for 6 weeks.
Hopkins:
Seven week program, 17 parks plus 2 travel wagons. Two leaders per
park, leader $3.50-4.15 per hour, Jr. Leader $2.35 per hour. Playgrounds
ran 4 full days and i day on Friday. Leaders worked 27 hours a week. Did
not have attendance figures analyzed but felt they averaged 20-30 children
per sight per session. Craft budget of $35 per park per week! Based on
lowest average attendance and lowest salaries cost per child per total
attendance about $1.07.
South St. Paul:
Seven week program with registration fees varying from $3 to $10 depending
on age group and activities included for that age. Total registration of 440
children. Mad 4 leaders, one day camp director, one tiny tots director, 1 teen
director and 1 bus driver paid 3.50 to 3.90 an hour. CETA employees used as
aides to keep a 1-30 leader -child ratio. Fees pay for perhaps 20% of costs.
$11,000 budgeted for salaries. With an average daily attendance of 409
children, 5 days a week for 7 weeks the cost per child per total attendance
would be about $.77. This is based on salaries alone as craft supplies etc.
are covered by the registration fee.
Eden Prairie:
Eight week program; the most varied and diversified program in the
area. Charge a fee of $2.50 per child or $5 per family. Use two leaders
per location except for preschoolers who have 3 leaders. Fee does not
begin to cover the cost of the program. Averaged 15-20 children per session
at 6 tiny tot a.m. programs and summer fun afternoon programs 4 days a week
plus two evenings. The recreation director did not have any figures to give
me so I cannot guess on a comparable cost.
Their teen summer work program is a $6000 program in the budget. Had
35-40 teens working alongside CETA workers supervised by 2 leaders. The
teens were paid 50¢ an hour; would work a 12 hour week and then get a
recreational activity like going down the Apple River. If they didn't work
12 hours, they didn't get to go on the trip.
As can be noted from just these six cities, no two programs are the
same. Each is built to fit the needs of that particular community. Salaries
offered to leaders vary significantly, those with higher salaries attract
older more experienced people to work as leaders. Length of program varies
from six to eight weeks depending on community needs. Not all communities
have a tiny tot program, not all have programs especially for teens. Some
communities are highly programmed and minutely scheduled, others are more open.
Many communities have culminating activities involving all the children at one
sight; this does not always involve busing. Rosemount. or Shakopee for
example. i
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NEIGHBORHOOD 15
Methodology for saturation population of Neighborhood 15.
In the determination of the amount of open space or park space
needed for Neighborhood 15 the following procedures were used:
1. The `determination of the boundaries of Neighborhood 15
2. To define the already developed areas within Neighborhood
15 and determine the holding capacity when these developments
have a 100 per cent saturation of population.
3. The determination of the amount of undeveloped land within
Neighborhood 15 and project the holding capacity at 100 per
cent population saturation. This is done in accordance with
Eagan's Land Use Guide.
The tree facts above will define the saturation of population
or (holding capacity) when Neighborhood 15 is 100 per cent
developed. Once the estimated number of people have been
calculated for Neighborhood 15 a determination may be made
for the amount of park land which should be provided for
Neighborhood 15.
Neighborhood Boundaries
Attached Exhibit "A" illustrates the neighborhood boundaries
used in this study. The boundaries are Yankee Doodle Road to
the north; the future alignment of Wescott Road to the south;
County Road 43 (Lexington Avenue) to the east and County Road
31 (Pilot Knob Road) to the west. The boundary lines mentioned
above include 640 acres or all of Section 15.
Saturation Population
The projected holding capacity or saturation population of
Neighborhood 15 is estimated between 5228.4 and 6650.4 people.
This was determined by the number of dwelling units committed
by approved subdivision and preliminary plats. The remaining
undeveloped land was then calculated according to the 'land
use guide.
TABLE 1
Proposed
Developments
Total
Lots or
.- Total
Developments
Acres
Units
-'Population
Pilot
Knob
Heights
lst
Addition
46.1 ac
11
38.5
Pilot
Knob
Heights
2nd
Addition
38.2 ac
8
28.0
Pilot
Knob
Heights
3rd
Addition
8.0 ac
1
3.5
Pilot
Knob
Heights
4th
Addition
34.49 ac
45
157.5
Homesteads
8.75 ac
5
17.5 -
135.54
70
245
Neighborhood 15
Page 2
Total
Timbershores Addition Acres
1st and 2nd Additions 7 ac
3rd and 4th Additions 14 ac
Block 2, Lot 1 4.75 ac
199.59 ac
TABLE II
Lots or Total
Units Population
58 quads 174
116 quads 348
313 1008.5 - --'
Projected Undeveloped Land
Commercial Land
112.3 ac
,
Limited Business
20.0 ac
R-4 (Residential
83.54 ac
(Low)
(High)
(Low)
(High)
Multiple District)
1002.48
1002.48
2806.9
2806.9
R-2 (Residential
157. ac
471
945
1413
2835
Double District)
372.84 ac
1473.48
1947.48
4219.4
5641.9
Total Projected Population
5228.4
6650.4
The remaining land which can not be developed is 67.66 acres. The
breakdown is as'follows:
27 acres committed for I -35E
8.07 existing park
32.58 ac water total of 640 ac.
Park Area Standards
Park area or open space needs are generally expressed in the
number of gall fields, tennis courts, etc. for a given popula-
tion. This information is revised periodically and there is
not one recognized authoritive source. Rather the source
used for this tudy was a combination wherein there seemed to
be general but not exact agreement.
Metro Council Development Guide - Open Space Section
Planning Design Criteria - Joseph DeChiara and Lee Koppelman
"ational Recreation and Park Association Standards
Eagan Park Development Guide - May 1973
RLI
Neighborhood 15
Page 3
The requirements are generally as follows:
Tennis courts
Play areas
Softball Field
Football Field
Neighborhood park area for above activities:
2 acres for each 1,000 people
r.
Park Area Needs
In reference to table 1 and 2, Neighborhood 15 has a holdin`g-�,
capacity between 5,265 and 6,554 people. According toithe
park area standards the need for active neighborhood`faciliti:es
are as follows:
Tennis Courts: 3 to 4 tennis courts should be I
located in Section 15. With
tennis facilities being in
popular demand it may be neces-
sary to supply more than the
required amount of tennis courts.
Play Areas By the requirement listed above,
5-6 play areas should be provided.
However, Eagan's plans are for larger
and fewer parks within the neigh-
borhood. Since there are no play
areas within neighborhood 15 it
may be advisable to incorporate
tot lots in any active park the
city is planning to provide for
Section 15.
Softball Fields At least two softball fields should
be provided. There fields should
be incorporated into one active
park for the neighborhood.
Neighborhood Park Area Neighborhood 15 has apparent need
for 10 - 13 acres. ( 2 acres
per 1,000 for 5,265 to 6,554
population) for active park needs.
Nieghborhood 15 has 8.07 passive
park, which would be difficult
to convert to any active park needs
because of the topography. An
additional 7 to 10 acres should be
provided to fulfill the active
park requirements of Neighborhood
15.
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Neighborhood 15
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Location of Facilities in Neighborhood 15
It has been difined that there is a need for a 7 to 10 acre park
in Neighborhood 15 to serve the active park requirement. The
location of this active park should be in the southern portion
of the section because most of the residential development
will occur in the area. The northern portion of the neighbor-
hood is zoned for commercial development so there should not
be any residential development in this area. A trail system
hsould be considered leading from the.commercial area in the
northern portion of the section to the active park area in
the southern portion of the neighborhood. Exhibit
A sites the proposed active park and trail.
Summary
Although there is an existing 8.07 acre passive park in=' - -
neighbhorhood 15, there should be an additional 7 t0 t0'acres•-.-
to fulfill the active park requirements. A trail may also
be added to connect the residential area to the shopping
and active park facilities.
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MethSlogy for saturation population of Neighborhood 22.- r
In the determination of the amount of open spac;Ylor .- .r--> •,_
park ,space needed . for Neighborhood 22 the following p`rocedtires•� 7 1
were used:
1) The determination of the boundaries of Neighborhood 22.
2) To define the already developed areas within
Neighborhood 22 and determine the holding capacity
when these developments have a 100 per cent
saturation of population.
3) The determination of the amount of undeveloped
land within Neighborhood 22 and project the
holding capacity at 100 per cent population
saturation. This is done in accordance with
Eagan's Land Use Guide.
The three.factors above will define the saturation of
population (or holdinq capacity) when neighborhood 22 is
100 per cent developed. Once the estimated number of
people have been calculated for Neighborhood 22 a determination
may be made for the amount of park land which should be
provided for Neighborhood 22.
I. NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES
Attached Exhibit "A” illustrates the neighborhood
boundaries used in this study. The boundaries are the north
section line of Section 22. (The future alignment of
Wescott Road, to the south; County Road Number 30; to
the cast, County Road Number 43 (Lexington Ave.) and to the
west, County Road Number 31 (Pilot Knob Road). The boundary
lines mentioned above include all of Section 22.
Saturation Population
The projected holding capacity or saturation population
of Neighborhood 22 is estimated between 5,224 and 8,410
people. This was determined by the number of dwelling units,
committed by approved subdivisions and preliminary plats.
The remaining undeveloped land was then calculated according
to the Land Use Guide.
Neighborhood 22
Page.2
Developement or
Owner
Skovdale
Skovdale No. 2
Hilltop Estates
TABLE I
Number of
Acres Dwelling Units
11.90
5
13.41
8
74.8
221
(Church & Neighbor-
hood Business) 9,7 0
Projected
Population
17.5
28.0
381.5 single
336.0 townhouse
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Total Developed 109.81 234 763.0
Table 1 is a break down of the proposed development in
Neighborhood 22. There is a total of 109.81 acres that are
in the development stage,with a holding capacity of 763
people. Table 2 is a breakdown of undeveloped land within /
Neighborhood 22.
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TABLE 2 j
Remaining Land Acres No. of Dwelling Units
3 units/ac 6 units/ac
*Land in A zone 424.85 1274.55 2549.1
Existing,Park Land 95.84 0 0
Existing Lakes &
Ponds 9.5 0 0
Total
530.19
1274.55
2549.1
Grand Total
640
1508.55
2783.1
Projected Population
3/ac 6/ac
4460.9 7647.3
0 0
0 0
4460.9 7647.3 -
5223.9 8410.3
*The zoning map has the remaining land in agricultural
use at this time, however, the Land Use Guide has this
area defined as Rll - 3-6 units per acre.
Table 2 shows the breakdown of the remaining undeveloped
land in Neighborhood 22. The holding capacity was then
determined by using a low and high density according to
�Eagan's Land Use Guide.,;The low population saturation was
calculated by,"usin4 3 units per acre and the high population
`\saturation• was,, determined by using 6 units per acre.
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II -"PARK -AREA STANDARDS
Park area or open space needs are generally expressed
in the number of ball fields, tennis courts, etc. for a
given population. This information is revised periodically
and there is not one recognized authoritative source.
Rather the source used for this study was a combination where
in there seemed to be general but not exact agreement.
Metro Council Development Guide - Open Space Section
Planning Design Criteria -,Joseph DeChiara and Lee Koppelman
National Recreation and Park Association Standards
Eagan's Park Development Guide - May 1973
Pi�•ighborhood 22
Page 3
The requirements are generally as follows:
Tennis courts
1
court
for
each 1,500 people
Play areas
1
play area
for each 1,000 people
Softball Field
1
field
for
each 3,000 people
Football Field
1
field
for
each 10,000 -people
Neighborhood Park Area
2
acres
for
each 1,000 people
III. PARK AREA NEEDS NEIGHBORHOOD 22
In reference to Table 1
and 2, Neighborhood 22 has a
holding capacity between 5,224 and 8,410 people. According
to Park Area Standards the need for active neighborhood
facilities are as follows:
Tennis Courts According to the holding capacit;-
of Neighborhood 22, 4 to 6 tennis
courts are needed to satisfy the
park requirements. These courts
should be centrally located and
accessible by all people
within the neiqhborhood.
Play Areas
According to the requirements
stated above, 5 to 8 play areas
should be provided. However,
Eagan's plans are for larger
and fewer parks within the,neigh-
borhood. With Patrick Eagan.
Park located in the eastern
portion of the neighborhood
it may be advisable to request
larger and fewer play areas
more centrally located in
Neighborhood 22.
Softball Fields 1' to 2 softball fields should
be provided in Neighborhood 22.
If possible an active area
should be incorporated in Patrick
Eagan Park to accomodate the
active park requirements.
Neighborhood Park Area Neighborhood 22 has apparent need
for approximately 10 to 16 acres
(2 acres, 1000 people) of neighborhood
park that can accomodate active
park development. Patrick Eagan
Park (a passive park) should
incorporate 10-16 acres of land
for active activities. If
this is not possible, then 10-
16 acres should be obtained
in a centrally located area within
Neighborhood 22.
Nuirihborho od 22
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IV. LOCATION OF FACILITIES IN NEIGHBORHOOD 22
The location of the facilities mentioned above may
possible be located in Patrick Eagan Park. This park contains
approximately 96 acres of which 10 to 16 acres may be
converted to active park area. Since this park is within
3/4 of a mile walking distance from any dwelling unit in
the neighborhood the location would be suitable to meet the
active needs of this area.
If this park is not feasible to provide for the active
needs of Neighborhood 22 the alternative location for the
10-16 'acre of active park land should be located in the
SW; of the NE; of Section 21. Axhibit A will site the
alternative location of the proposed active park.
Neighborhood 22
V. SUMMARY
Although there is approximately 96 acres of passive park
area in Neighborhood 22, some active parkland should be
acquired to fulfill the active park requirements. This
should either be incorporated into the Patrick Eagan Park
or acquired elsewhere if the topography is not feasible
for active needs listed above. With the additional 10-
16 acres of park land all the park requirements should be
-net for the neighborhood activities.
Presently there are proposed trails which will provide
access to the east side of Patrick Eagan Park. As development
occurs to the west of the park, a trail system should be
provided so access may be acquired on the west side of Patrick
Eagan Park. This would allow good internal circulation
within the neighborhood and provide adequate access to
Patrick Eagan Park.
Dale Runkle
August 9, 1977
Tennis
Softball
Play
Park
Location
Size
Courts
Fields
Areas
---...:Eatr--ick=,-Eag n„,
Northwest of
Approx.
2
1
1
Co. Rd. 43 and
96 ac.
Pilot Knob Rd.
New proposed
Northeast
Park
of Deerwood Dr..10-16
ac.
4
1
1
V. SUMMARY
Although there is approximately 96 acres of passive park
area in Neighborhood 22, some active parkland should be
acquired to fulfill the active park requirements. This
should either be incorporated into the Patrick Eagan Park
or acquired elsewhere if the topography is not feasible
for active needs listed above. With the additional 10-
16 acres of park land all the park requirements should be
-net for the neighborhood activities.
Presently there are proposed trails which will provide
access to the east side of Patrick Eagan Park. As development
occurs to the west of the park, a trail system should be
provided so access may be acquired on the west side of Patrick
Eagan Park. This would allow good internal circulation
within the neighborhood and provide adequate access to
Patrick Eagan Park.
Dale Runkle
August 9, 1977
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MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE RAGAN ADVISORY PLANNING COMMISSION
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
DECEMBER 20, 1978
A regular meeting of the Eagan Advisory Planning Commission was held on December
20, 1978, at 7 p.m. at the City Hall. The meeting had been changed from the regu-
larly scheduled dated of December 26th. Those present werei Chairman Harrison,
Members Blomquist, Roszak, and Sperling. Absent -were; Members Hedtke, Hall and
Dembroski. Also present were City Administrator Hedges, City Attorney Hauge, City
Publio Works Director Colbert, City Planner Voss, City Engineer Rosene and City
Zoning Administrator Runkle.
AGENDA. Upon motion duly made and seconded, all members voting yes, it was
Resolved that the agenda be approved as distributed.
MINUTES. Upon motion by Roszak and seconded by Blomquist, all members voting,
yes, it was Resolved that the minutes of the regular meeting of November 28, 1978,
be and hereby are approved as prepared.
PHILLIP BRANDT REZONING - DODD ROAD. The Chairman then convened the continued
public hearing concerning.the application of Phillip T. Brandt for rezoning from
Agricultural to P.-1, Residential Single Family, and preliminary plat approval of
Sunset Addition in Section 25, West of Dodd Road. The staff recommended that the
matter be continued to allow the petitioner to submit an adequate grading and
drainage plan for review by the City staff. Blomquist moved and Sperling seconded
the motion to continue the application for 30 days until the grading and drainage
plans have been submitted. All members voted in favor to continue the hearing.
KOA CAMPGROUND - ROY OHLMANN. The next public hearing that was convened was
a continued public hearing regarding the application of Roy Ohlmann to rezone from
Agricultural to PD -Planned Development and plan approval for KOA Campground adjacent
and West of Pilot Knob Road and South of Train View Manor Addition. Mr. Ohlmann was
present and explained certain changes in the proposal including wider setbacks,
more screening, etc. A number of letters including those from the Minnesota
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Zoological Society, Minnesota Zoo Board, City of Apple Valley and Dakota County
Park Director were reviewed. Also the EAW on the project was submitted to the APC.
There were concerns regarding the impact upon the County Park, the density of the
development, the objective of the City of Eagan to locate a campground closer to
the zoo, e.g. on Johnny Cake Ridge Road. A significant number of adjacent property
owners were present mcst of whom objected to the proposal. The objections from
neighbors included the impact on the general area and the objection that the property
was of a residential nature in the area with the ROA being a commercial type operatic
There were concerns by Planning Commission members that the park may become a
permanent location for mobile homes and trailers. Mr. Ohlmann stated that fire ringE
would be included at the site if the PCA permits such rings. He further stated that
utilities would have to be extended through two adjacent property owners in order
to get to the site. The 20 acre site would include 219 camping sites. After
considerable discussion, Blomquist moved and Sperling seconded the motion to recommer.
denial of the application with all members voting in favor for reasons including
those above and the following:
1. There does not appear to be adequate access to the zoo according to Eagan
City Council recommendations.
2. The development appears to be too dense consisting of 219 spaces on 20
acres.
3. The proposed use is not consistent with that shown on the August 1975 zoo
area development guide.
4. The intended use does not conform with the mixed residential use according
to the Eagan Land Use Guide.
5. The Planner'.s report of November 21, 1978. recommended certain conditions
be fulfilled prior to approval of the proposed use. All members voted in favor.
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It was also recommended by the APC that the applicant negotiate with the Dakota
County Board or with the Zoo Board for a site within a Dakota County Park or Zoo
area.
NORTHWESTERN NMAL LIFE REZONING - EAGANDALE CENTER INDUSTRIAL PARK. The
next public hearing was convened by Chairman Harrison concerning the application of
Northwestern?•Sutual Life Insurance Company for preliminary plat approval covering
Lots 8 - 24, Block 4, Eagandale Center Industrial Park No. 3. The purpose was to
place the existing buildings on individual lots. Mr. Tom Davis appeared for the
applicant. The report of the Planner dated December 14, 1978, was reviewed. Roszak
moved and Sperling seconded the motion, all members voted in favor, to recommend
approval of the application provided, however, that the conditions that were submitte
by the Planner in his report including cross easements be complied with.
WALTER POWERS WAIVER AND VARIANCE - CLIFF ROAD. The Chairman then convened
the public hearing regarding the application of Walter Powers and Mr. Ostendorf for
waiver of subdivision regulation from platting and for variance of two acres to
allow building permit for single family home on a three acre Agricultural zoned
parcel South of Cliff Road on Holland Lake. Mark Parranto appeared for the applicant
The report of the Planner dated December 14, 1978, was reviewed indicating a number
of issues that should be resolved. There was concern as to the proximity to the
Dakota County park and whether it ought to be acquired by Dakota County for park
purposes. A letter from Chuck Lowery, the Dakota County Park Director, December 30,
1977, indicating that the County would not be able to acquire the site was read.
There were septic tank problems and possible intrusion to the lake. It was noted
that Cliff Road will eventually require 150 foot right of way. After discussion,
Roszak moved and Harrison seconded the motion to recommend denial of the application
because of access problems to County Road #32, intrusion on the park and Holland
Lake, that it does not comply with the master land use plan providing for park use
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and possible setback variance problems. All members voted in favor. Chairman
Harrison then requested that the staff study the proposed use of the property
including the possibility that the County Board reconsider its policy of acquiring
small isolated parcels adjacent to the Dakota County park because of their undesir-
ability for development purposes and report back to the Council with a proposed
resolution for submission to the Dakota County Board.
RASMUSSEN ADDITION REZONING AND PRELIMINARY PLAT. The Chairman then convened
the public hearing regarding the application of Donald Rasmussen and J.P.R. Park,
'n_. for rezoning Lot 1, Rasmussen Addition to P,-2 zoning from R-1 and for prelimina:
plat approval of a revised plat of Rasmussen Addition to be labelled Lake Park
Addition. Mr. Phil Carlson of Howard Dahlgren Associates appeared for the applicatic
as did Nark Parranto. The increase would be from 16 single family lots to 21 single
family lots and 1 duplex lot with the duplex lot at the corner of Cedar Crest and
Cliff Road. The location of the gas pipe line easement would be moved Southerly
25 feet to make the duplex lot more useable. The average square footage of the lot
is 20,000 square feet on a parcel of 15.87 acres. It was noted that the Lot 11 lot
line was adjusted according to the Planner's recommendation and that North tip into
Thomas Lake would be acquired from the Dunn & Curry with Cash contribution to the
City for park. The tip of land into Thomas Lake on the West owned by Richard Sherer
was discussed. Mr. Cedarberg, the owner of Lot 11, Rasmussen Addition, was present
and objected to the small lots, the replatting of the lots 13, 14, and 15 in Lake
Park Addition because of the size of the lots and other objections. Mr. and Mrs.
Sherer were also present and indicated that they objected to the duplex zoning on
Cliff P.oad. After considerable discussion, Roszak moved and Blomquist seconded the
motion, all members voted in favor, to recommend denial of the rezoning of the lot
at Cl+.ff and Cedar Crest to R-2 because it would be spot zoning and out of character
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with the rest of the immediate neighborhood. Roszak then moved to recommend denial
of the preliminary plat because it would change the character of the neighborhood.
There was no second and the motion died. It was noted that the subdivision could
be developed as Rasmussen Addition with gravel road and septic tanks. There was
no recommendation from the APC.
FEDERAL LAND COMPANY SITE AND BUILDING PLANS FOR RESTAURANT. The application
of Federal Land Company for site and building plan approval for a restaurant on
Lot 1, Block 2, Bicentennial Third Addition at Yankee Square Shopping Center was
next considered. The conditional use permit had been approved by the City Council
for restaurant and liquor contingent upon approval of detailed site and building
plans. The restaurant will seat 225 persons and be 5,700 square feet in size. The
Planner's report of December 13th was reviewed but the site and building plans were
not submitted. Sperling moved and Roszak seconded the motion, all members voted
yes, to continue the application for 30 days for submission of the additional
information.
ROBERT JOHNSON AND DAVID JOHNSON REZONING AND PRELIMINARY PLAT - SECTION 31.
The public hearing concerning the application of Robert R. Johnson and David
A. Johnson to rezone and preliminary plat approval of a 3.31 acre parcel in Section
31 was next convened. After motion was duly made by Roszak and seconded by Blomquis±
all members voting in favor, it was Resolved that the public hearing be,continued
for 30 days for submission of the required information from the applicants.
GEORGE SAAD RESTAURANT - 7/11 STORE. Mr. Dale Runkle informally presented the
proposed use of the former 7/11 storeon Yankee Doodle Road for use of restaurant by
Mr. and Mrs. George P. Saad. He indicated that there will be a conditional use
permit needed for wine and beer licenses and that all information required had not
been submitted at the present time. Roszak moved and Blomquist seconded the motion,
all membersvoted in favor, to continue the matter until the next meeting.
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COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TIME SCHEDULE. John Voss, City Planner, submitted a propose,
time schedule for meetings regarding the review and approval of the comprehensive
plan during 1979 by the Advisory Planning Commission. There was discussion concerns.
the need to prepare the comprehensive plan to follow the alignment of proposed
I -35E noting that the A-1 Alignment had been used in the past. The first scheduled
meeting will be on January 9, 1979, at 7 p.m. at the City Hall.
CUES MAR EAST FIRST ADDITION. Dale Runkle showed a sketch of the proposed
Ches Mar Ecst First Addition to include the proposed land for park and land surround.
the park in the Ches Mar East development area. He indicated that the revised plat
will be submitted to the City but that Ches Mar East First Addition is the only
subdivided area within the plat.
ADJOUPJ=. . Upon motion duly made and seconded, the meeting adjourned at
approximately 9:10 p.m.
DATED: December 20, 1978. PHH
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE EAGAN ADVISORY PLANNING COMMISSION
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
DECEMBER 20, 1978
A regular meeting of the Eagan Advisory Planning Commission was held on December
20, 1978, at 7 p.m. at the City Hall
larly scheduled dated of December 26th
The meeting had been changed from the regu-
Those present were: Chairman Harrison,
Members Blomquist, Roszak, and Sperling. Absent -were; Members Hedtke, Hall and
Dembroski. Also present were City Administrator Hedges, City Attorney Hauge, City
Public.Works Director Colbert, City Planner Voss, City Engineer Rosene and City
Zoning Administrator Runkle.
AGENDA. Upon motion duly made and seconded, all members voting yes, it was
Resolved that the agenda be approved as distributed.
MINUTES. Upon motion by Roszak and seconded by Blomquist, all members voting,
.yes, it was Resolved that the minutes of the regular meeting of November 28, 1978,
be and hereby are approved as prepared.
PHILLIP BRANDT REZONING - DODD ROAD. The Chairman then convened the continued
public hearing concerning the application of Phillip T. Brandt for rezoning from
Agricultural to R-1, Residential Single Family, and preliminary plat approval of
Sunset Addition in Section 25, West of Dodd Road. The staff recommended that the
matter be continued to allow the petitioner to submit an adequate grading and
drainage plan for review by the City staff. Blomquist moved and Sperling seconded
the motion to continue the application for 30 days until the grading and drainage
plans have been submitted. All members voted in favor to continue the hearing.
KOA CAMPGROUND - ROY OHLMANN. The next public hearing that was convened was
a continued public hearing regarding the application of Roy Ohlmann to rezone from
Agricultural to PD -Planned Development and plan approval for KOA Campground adjacent
and West of Pilot Knob Road and South of Twin View Manor Addition. Mr. Ohlmann was
present and explained certain changes in the proposal including, wider setbacks,
more screening, etc. A number of letters including those from the Minnesota
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Zoological Society, Minnesota Zoo Board, City of Apple Valley and Dakota County
Park Director were reviewed. Also the EAW on the project was submitted to the APC.
There were concerns regarding the impact upon the County Park, the density of the
development, the objective of the City of Eagan to locate a campground closer to
the zoo, e.g. on Johnny Cake Ridge Road. A significant number of adjacent property
owners were present mcst of whom objected to the proposal. The objections from
neighbors included the impact on the general area and the objection that the property
was of a residential nature in the area with the ROA being a commercial type operatic
There were concerns by Planning Commission members that the park may become a
permanent location for mobile homes and trailers. Mr. Ohlmann stated that fire ring:
would be included at the site if the PCA permits such rings. He further stated that
utilities would have to be extended through two adjacent property owners in order
to get to the.site. The 20 acre site would include 219 camping sites. After
considerable discussion, Blomquist moved and Sperling seconded the motion to recommen
denial of the application with all members voting in favor for reasons including
those above and the following:
1. There does not appear to be adequate access to the zoo according to Eagan
City Council recommendations.
2. The development appears to be too dense consisting of 219 spaces on 20
acres.
3. The proposed use is not consistent with that shown on the August 1975 zoo
area development guide.
4. The intended use does not conform with the mixed residential use according
to the Eagan Land Use Guide.
5. The Planner's report of November 21, 1978. recommended certain conditions
be fulfilled prior to approval of the proposed use. All members voted in favor.
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It was also recommended by the APC that the applicant negotiate with the Dakota
County Board or with the Zoo Board for a site within a Dakota County Park or Zoo
area.
NORTHWESTERN NUTUAL LIFE REZONING - EAGANDALE CENTER INDUSTRIAL PARK. The
next public hearing was convened by Chairman Harrison concerning the application of
Northwestern?4utual Life Insurance Company for preliminary plat approval covering
Lots 8 - 24, Block 4, Eagandale Center Industrial Park No. 3. The purpose was to
place the existing buildings on individual lots. Mr. Tom Davis appeared for the
applicant. The report of the Planner dated December 14, 1978, was reviewed. Roszak
moved and Sperling seconded the motion, all members voted in favor, to recommend
approval of the application provided, however, that the conditions that were submitte
by the Planner in his report including cross easements be complied with.
WALTER POWERS WAIVER AND VARIANCE - CLIFF ROAD. The Chairman then convened
the public hearing regarding the application of Walter Powers and Mr. Ostendorf for
waiver of subdivision regulation from platting and for variance of two acres to
allow building permit for single family home on a three acre Agricultural zoned
parcel South of Cliff Road on Holland Lake. Mark Parranto appeared for the applicant
The report of the Planner dated December 14, 1978, was reviewed indicating a number
of issues that should be resolved. There was concern as to the proximity :o the
Dakota County park and whether it ought to be acquired by Dakota County for park
purposes. A letter from Chuck Lowery, the Dakota County Park Director, December 30,
1977, indicating that the County would not be able to acquire the site was read.
There were septic tank problems and possible intrusion to the lake. It was noted
that Cliff road will eventually require 150 foot right of way. After discussion,
Roszak moved and Harrison seconded the motion to recommend denial of the application
because of access problems to County Road #32, intrusion on the park and Holland
Lake, that it does not comply with the master land use plan providing for park use
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and possible setback variance problems. All members voted in favor. Chairman
Harrison then requested that the staff study the proposed use of the property
including the possibility that the County Board reconsider its policy of acquiring
small isolated parcels adjacent to the Dakota County park because of their undesir-
ability for development purposes and report back to the Council with a proposed
resolution for submission to the Dakota County Board.
RASMUSSEN ADDITION REZONING AND PRELIMINARY PLAT. The Chairman then convened
the public hearing regarding the application of Donald Rasmussen and J.P.R. Park,
lnz. for rezoning Lot 1, Rasmussen Addition to P.-2 zoning from R-1 and for prelimina,
plat approval of a revised plat of Rasmussen Addition to be labelled Lake Park
Addition. Mr. Phil Carlson of Howard Dahlgren Associates appeared for the applicatic
as did Mark Parranto. The increase would be from 16 single family lots to 21 single
family lots and 1 duplex lot with the duplex lot at the corner of Cedar Crest and
Cliff Road. The location of the gas pipe line easement would be moved Southerly
25 feet to make the duplex lot more useable. The average square footage of the lot
is 20,000 square feet on a parcel of 15.87 acres. It was noted that the Lot 11 lot
line was adjusted according to the Planner's recommendation and that North tip into
Thomas Lake would be acquired from the Dunn & Curry with cash contribution to the
City for park. The tip of land into Thomas Lake on the West owned by Richard Sherer
was discussed. Mr. Cedarberg, the owner of Lot 11, Rasmussen Addition, was present
and objected to the small lots, the replatting of the lots 13, 14, and 15 in Lake
Park Addition because of the size of the lots and other objections. Mr. and Mrs.
Sherer were also present and indicated that they objected to the duplex zoning on
Cliff Road. After considerable discussion, Roszak moved and Blomquist seconded the
motion, all members voted in favor, to recommend denial of the rezoning of the lot
at Cliff and Cedar Crest to R-2 because it would be spot zoning and out of charactez
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with the rest of the immediate neighborhood. Roszak then moved to recommend denial
of the preliminary plat because it would change the character of the neighborhood.
There was no second and the motion died. It was noted that the subdivision could
be developed as Rasmussen Addition with gravel road and septic tanks. There was
no recommendation from the APC.
FEDERAL LAND COMPANY SITE AND BUILDING PLANS FOR RESTAURANT. The application
of Federal Land Company for site and building plan approval for a restaurant on
Lot 1, Block 2, Bicentennial Third Addition at Yankee Square Shopping Center was
next considered. The conditional use permit had been approved by the City Council
for restaurant and liquor contingent upon approval of detailed site and building
plans. The restaurant will seat 225 persons and be 5,700 square feet in size. The
Planner's report of December 13th was reviewed but the site and building plans were
not submitted. Sperling moved and Roszak seconded the motion, all members voted
yes, to continue the application for 30 days for submission of the additional
information.
ROBERT JOHNSON AND DAVID JOHNSON REZONING AND PRELIMINARY PLAT - SECTION 31.
The public hearing concerning the application of Robert R. Johnson and David
A. Johnson to rezone and preliminary plat approval of a 3.31 acre parcel in Section
31 was next convened. After motion was duly made by Roszak and seconded by Blomquist
all members voting in favor, it was Resolved that the public hearing be continued
for 30 days for submission of the required information from the applicants.
GEORGE SAAD RESTAURANT - i/11 STORE. Mr. Dale Runkle informally presented the
proposed use of the former 7/11 storeon Yankee Doodle Road for use of restaurant by
Mr. and Mrs. George P. Saad. He indicated that there will be a conditional use
permit needed for wine and beer licenses and that all information required had not
been submitted at the present time. Roszak moved and Blomquist seconded the motion,
all membersvoted in favor, to continue the matter until the next meeting.
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COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TIME SCHEDULE. John Voss, City Planner, submitted a propose,
time schedule for meetings regarding the review and approval of the comprehensive
plan during 1979 by the Advisory Planning Commission. There was discussion concerns,
the need to prepare the comprehensive plan to follow the alignment of proposed
I=35E noting that the A-1 Alignment had been used in the past. The first scheduled
meeting will be on January 9, 1979, at 7 p.m. at the City Hall.
CHES NAR EAST FIRST ADDITION. Dale Runkle showed a sketch of the proposed
Ches Mar Eest First Addition to include the proposed land for park and land surround.
the park in the Ches Mar East development area. He indicated that the revised plat
will be submitted to the City but that Ches Mar East First Addition is the only
subdivided area within the plat.
ADJOUPM...tNT. Upon motion duly made and seconded, the meeting adjourned at
approximately 9:10 p.m.
DATED: December 20, 1978. PME
X. 10:00 - Adjournment
*For those persons who are not on the agenda
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AGENDA
REGULAR MEETING
PARK commiTTEE
• EAGAN, MINNESOTA
CITY HALT.
JUNE: 30,, 1977
7:30 P.M.
I.
7:30
- Call to Order, Pledge of Allegiance.
II.
7:35
- Approval of May 16,1977 minute.
III.
7:40
- Establishment of Agenda
IV.
7:45
- Reception of Reports and Communications
A. Council meetings-Tom Fledges.
B. Consultants (delayed until 9:00P.M.)
C. 'Park Department Report
D. Special Meetings
1. Development Committee
E. Other
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V.
9:00
- Presentations by Developers
A. Jim Frisbee letter re: path dedication-, _
B. John Voss 1 '-
1. Oak Chase Park
2. Gabbert neve'lopment "
3. MLCrae Addition
4. Park Concept Plans
VI.
9:15
- Old Business
A.. Donneywood Park
B. Other
VII.
9:30
- New Business
A. Appointment of Trail Committee
VilI.
9:40
- Visitors to be heard*
IX.
9:SO
- For Your Information
X. 10:00 - Adjournment
*For those persons who are not on the agenda
PARK COMMITTEE AGENDA BACKGROUND MATERIAL
COUNCIL ACTIONS
Tom Hedges will report on matters from the Council.
The Eagan Park Ordinance was adopted by the City Council at the June 21st
meeting and copies will be available for distribution at the park
committee meeting. Arrangements are also being made for publication
which will determine the effective date of said ordinance.
PARK DEPT. REPORT
The Park Dept. reports that this year's expanded recreation program
is in full swing. We are very pleased with the staff we were able
to employ this year. Dorothy Peterson is supervising 28 people in
the Summer in the Park Programs, Tumbling and Dance classes and Tennis
lessons. We are striving for high quality performance in all of these
areas.
Five additional people have also been added to the Park Dept. staff
as temporary CETA employees. Two persons will cut diseased trees
from public lands for the next 6 months, two will prune,water and other
wise improve our existing plantings for 6 months and one person has
been added to the regular staff for one year.
A Public Hearing was held Monday June 27, 1977 regarding the upgrading
of Pilot Knob Rd from Yankee Doodle to 494. At the cities request
the county has drawn in the trail on both sides of the South mile and
on the east side of the North Mile. The map should be available for
review during the park committee meeting. No decision has been made
on who will pay for the trail if it is included in the final project.
However, the Dakota County Planning Commission recommended a resolution
which the County Board passes directing the County Parks and Planning
Dept. to establish a county wide trail plan and to investigate mutual
and/or supplementary funding. See enclosed resolution.
Efforts will be made to continue to pursue the construction of this trail
and county's participation in the cost if regional funding is not
available.
A second hearing was held regarding storm sewer along the road. See
enclosed engineers report. Concerns have been raised regarding the
suggested additional pond proposed to be located in Country Home
Heights Park and regarding possible increased run off into the park.
The Park committee may wish to speak to this in a formal manner.
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
A report from the Development Committee which toured the proposed parks
to be constructed will be incorporated into the presentation by John
Voss.
DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
LETTER FROM JIM FRISBEE
Jim Frisbee wishes to discuss his letter regarding park dedication and
assessments. The Park Committee certainly agrees that cost per lot should
be at a higher figure. It is suggested that Ken Damlo, the
administrative intern, could be asked to study this matter and help
obtain background information with the idea of the Park Committee again
asking the Council to increase the per unit park dedication dollars figures.
A letter from Paul Hauge regarding Oak Chase 4 and an agreement concerning
dedication is included for your review. Settling the matter of these
assessments is not in the park committee's province at this time so it
is suggested that this matter be referred to staff and that Paul
Hauge work out the agreement subject to their recommendations.
John Voss will discuss an alternate layout for Oak Chase Park for
Park Committee review.
This is suggested as an alternative if Arnie Carlson is allowed to
purchase land from Mr. Frisbee in order to relocate his driveway. If
the park committee is favor of this they could require a rezoning.
It is suggested that efforts to finalize the agreement on the Oak Chase
dedication should be referred to staff when the layout of the park
is finalized.
Dave Gabbert will discuss park dedication for Ches Mar III. Some
members of Planning Commission have expressed an interest in the pond
and an area around it being dedicated as public park.
Park Director Schmidt has toured the site and feels that park land at
'this location would be inappropriate. We already have a small dedication
in Ches Mar I. While the area involved contains a small steep sided
pond and some beautifully wooded terrain it is too small to serve a
public function. The suggestion to the Park Committee is that the
Committee recommend to the Council that this area not be accepted
as park dedication and that cash per unit be paid by the
developer.
The Park Dept. has reviewed the preliminary plat for McKee Addition on
Yankee Doodle Rd. and Heritage Lane. This is a replat of 2 of lot 2 and
lots 3-10 Block 2 Letendre Addition into 16 R-1 lots. This results in
7a additional lots. The planning commission report indicates that the
7 additional lots should be subject to park dedication. Paul Hauge
takes the position that we have 16 new lots which could be subject to park
dedication. Mr. Vince Kennedy did not dispute this interpretation at the
planning commission meeting. Final resolution of this and other similar
situations will probably come from Council action on this matter.
DONNEYWOOD
At the last park committee meeting the question of installation of the
walkway on outlot A and the shaping of the backlot lines as previously
promised by the developer in Donneywood Addition was referred to the
Park Director.
Park Director Schmidt and City Engineer Bob Rosene have met with the
property owners and discussed the present park and its future potentia].
The feelings of the property owners is that the backlot portion of the
park should be preserved as a natural area.
Comments of the Park Director are as follows: The park area is a unique
natural area Ach interesting wildlife can be observed there at present.
Additional land should be dedicated contiguous to the park when the
adjacent property develops. When that occurs the best access to the
area will probably be at Outlot E. The installation of the pathway at
Outlot A could be delayed at this time since it serves little useful
purpose. It can always be installed in the future if conditions warrant.
The funds to cover this construction should be deducted from the
development bond and deposited in the park site fund designated for
the purpose of improving entrance to Donneywood either at Outlot A or E.
This recommendation is based on the fact that after touring the park and
discussing it in depth with nearby residents I believe that the
opposition to the path stems from a genuine concern about preserving
the natural aspects of the park area rather than a self-serving desire
to keep it private and unused.
It is also recommended, however, that the filling of the backyards to
provide walking access around the pond should be accomplished. Some
engineering questions relating to this remain unanswered at the time of
this writing. Additional information should be available at the meeting.
At the last meeting the appointment of a trail subcommittee of the
Park Committee was scheduled to be done at this time.
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FOR YOUR MFORMATION
The location of the pathway on Outlot A in Donneywood Addition
has been agreed upon by the affected property owners after discussion
with the Park Director. The Council was polled regarding possible
compromises and the final agreement is as follows:
The pathway will be located 1 foot south of the North edge of the Outlot,
and will be 4 feet in width and therefore will be 5 feet from the south
edge of the Outlet and 7 feet from John Tancheff's house.
A letter to this effect has been written to Cadence Corporation and work
on the pathways is in process.
The Pagan Pdrk l:onunittcc, Park Director and the Park Department staff
have been awarded certificates of appreciation by the Cedar Athletic
Association for outstanding support given to their Baseball -Softball
program and the July 4th Junior Olympics. Their favorable comments
are greatly appreciated. .
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AGENDA
REGULAR MEETING
PARK COMMITTEE �
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
CITY HALL `
JULY 14, 1977
7:30 P.M.
I.
7:30
- Call to Order, Pledge of allegiance.
II.
7:32
- Approval of June 30, 1977 minutes.
III.
7:35
- Establishment of Agenda
IV.
7:40
- Presentations by Developers
A. Hilltop Estates, Dunn E Curry,
Rod Hardy
B. Willmus Property, Tom h'illmus,
Steve Thompson, .Joe Boehave
V.
8:30
- Reception of Reports and Communications
A. Council meetings -Tom Hedges.
B. Consultants
C. Park Department Report
1. Park Dedication Research
2. Gabbert Development
3. Cliff Rd. Trail
D. Special Meetings
1. Development Committee
E. Other
VI. 9:30 - Old Business
A. Park Construction Plans and Contra Ct.
final review and recommendation
B. Donneywood Park
C. Carlson driveway relocation, .Arnie
Carlson, Jim Frisbee
D. Park Dedication on Re -Subdivided Lots
VII. 9:45 - New Business
VIII. 9:50 - Visitors to be heard*
IX. 9:55 - For Your Information
X. 10:00 - Adjournment
*For those persons who are not on -the agenda
PARK AGENDA BACKGROUND INFORMATION
Rod [lardy representing Dunn P, Curry will present a preliminary plat for Hilltop
Estates, an 80 acre development at the North East Corner of the intersection of
County Roads 30 6 31.
Steve Thompson, Jim Boehave, and Tom Willmus will present 3 plats for residential
development for approximately 75 acres on Johnny Cake Ridge Road, North of
Cliff Road. No additional information is available at this time.
Gabbert Development: At the 7-6-77 Council Meeting the preliminary plat for
Ches Mar '3rd Addition was approved with the exception that the park committee
suggestion for a trail between 2 lots leading into the well site was referred
back to the Park Committee with the suggestion that it be relocated in the
Cliff Road Right of way. Bob Rosene agrees with this recommendation since all
that will be located on that section of the well site are 2 large reservoirs.
Careful consideration should be given where said trail should be located so as
to interconnect with the proposed future regional trail on Cliff Rd. Also
consideration should be given as to whether the path way should he installed
at this time.
At a recent meeting with the Dakota County Highway Department, the Eagan
City Council reconfirmed their request that the width of 13 feet for berm
area adjacent to the cul-de-sac in Woodgate be maintained.
John loss will present final plans and cost estimates and a contract for
supervision of park construction for approval by the Park Committee and a
recommendation to the City Council that the plans be approved, and that
John Voss he authorized to prepare bids and specifications and advertise for
bids for the proposed contruction. lie will also present the contract for
supervision of the construction for acceptance and recommendation to the
Council.
DONNEYWOOD BACKGROUND INFORMATION
In 1973 when the final plat for this development was approved
the park committee specified that the park dedication for
Donneywood would consist of preservation of the natural area
surrounding the pond. Shoreline on LeMay Lake was also
included in the dedication. Public_ access was to be provided
to the natural area by 2 six foot wide asphalt pathways to
be installed on outlots A and B by the developer. Access
to the LeMay Lake portion of the dedication was.to be provided
adjacent to outlot E. The Developer also agreed to provide fill
for the southern area of the park adjacent to outlot E and at
the rear of adjacent lots to improve access and to properly
blend the lot lines into the park land.
Requests to expedite pathway construction and a request to
eliminate one pathway have been received from residents..Also
a petition from the Donneywood neighborhood with an alternate
pathway proposal has been received by the Park Department.
Unfortunately the cover sheet on the petition contains much
incorrect information so a great deal of misunderstanding
exists. Bob Rosene should be present to clarify the situation
relating to the pond level and fill.
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(1)
Aiiai{::A iPr„ idO=C.SAT - 7 1)C.; IN WOOD d SIDE". 70 PARK DOAFw Pii010;;A?:
Since the proposal to construct a walking,path from outlet A to outlet
would sacrifice 21% of the wetlands area (10,000 sq. ft. out of a total of
47,197 sq. ft.) vie feel that an alternative proposal would be more consistant
with good conservation practises, and would cause significantly ]ess danale to
the sensitive ecosystem of the pond area.
The area set aside as park in the Donnywood addition does not provide land
suitable for playground or recreation. One outstanding feature is, however,
a pond of approximately 45,000 sq, ft. This pond serves as a wild life habitat
in it:5 rresent form, visited by such species as ducks, muskrat, green herons,
turtles,black-hooded night herons, sandpipers, -egrets, and kingfishers. To
significantly allow mankind to intrude upon this enclave of wilderness would
obviously upset the ecosystem of such a small and fragile wildlife preserve.
Preserving the characteristics of this pond while providing an opportu-
nity for all interested persons to observe the wildlife which inhabit the pond
are significant features of our alternative proposal. This proposal requires
no filling of the pond, and would require the cutting"of no trees.
A path of approximately 500 ft.'in'length would -enter the park on the
Jurdy Road frontage adjacent to outlot E and follow a line parallel to the ist
line of the 5 z of the NV .1 of section 10 before curving into the open space
between the pond and Lema�sLake. This path would terminate in an observation
deck which would discourage further intrusion upon the pond area and would
prevent disturbance of wildlife.
(2)
There are several advantages to,,this plan as opposed to the Park Board's
plan for a path along the southwest boundary of the park.
1. Access to Lemays Lake and to the park are assured for all
2. Wildlife will not be driven from the park by through traffic
3. 21% of -the actual water area-will;not be filled.-,
4. Observers will be in abetter position to observe the wildlife
j. Walking distance to Lemays Lake will be shorter for most residents
6. A wildlife area would be opened to the Iligh density housing area of
Highsite apartments
7. Cost to the Park Board will be I considerably lower.than the Park Board's own
proposal
8. Unlike the Park Board's porposal,-the Residents' plan provides for access
to Lemays Lake as well as to the pond area
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PROPOSAL FOR A 7:ATUPP. TRAIL IN A PARK LOCATvi IW LONNT.-70UD ADDITION:
We, the undersigned, propose.to the Eagan Park Board, a walking trail to
enter the Donnywood Addition park lands from Jurdy Road, parallel and as.close .
as possible to, the northwest edge .of,outlot_E.' Said path will extend to a line .
parallel with and 1133.40 ft west of the,east line of the Sz of the W. of
section 10, and follow said line to a point 30 feet from the shore of Lemays
Lake, there to terminate in an observation deck.
Said path to be constructed without disturbing wildlife habitat cutside
of an area five feet on either side of the center line of the path, the surface
of the path to be of a material other than concrete or asphalt paving.
We further propose that this path be constructed as a alternative to the
proposed path along the southwest boundary of the park.
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A request from a resident of Donneywood Addition to omit the
installation of the pathway on outlot A which is part of the
original development agreement has been received by the park
committee.
Requests have also been received from residents adjacent to
outlot B for immediate installation of the,proposed pathway
at that location. The developer wishes to install both
pathways at the same time.
The Development Committee has toured the site on several
occassions, members of the City Staff have met with
residents of Donneywood and the surrounding neighborhood
and the following recommendations have been made to the
Park Committee.
The Development Committee recommends that:
1. Six foot wide asphalt pathways should be installed
on Outlots A and B according to the agreement,
made between the developer and the City Council.
as a condition of final plat approval.
a. To provide clearly defined public
access to the city park land.
b. To provide access to the land locked
parcel adjacent to the park land.
2. The Park Committee should also add additional
footage leading into the park area to the trail on
outlot;A':: to prevent it's ending abruptly at the
rear, lot lines.
3. Fill should be provided by the developer in the
low area in the southern portion of the park
as originally agreed at the time of platting.
a. To allow walking access through the
natural area from one side of the park
to the other.
b. To provide better access to the park in
the area adjacent to Outlot E.
HAUGE & HOEY, P.A.--
Attorneys at Law
3908 SIBLEY MEMORIAL HIGHWAY
EAGAN (ST. PAUL). MINNESOTA 55122
.:.W PT naUGE July 5. 1977. •, c;,i,..:
TO: City Council
CITY OF EAGAN
FROM: Paul H. Hauge
RE: PARK DEDICATION ON RE -SUBDIVIDED LOTS
Where a tract which was platted prior to the passage of Eagan's Park
Dedication Ordinance is later presented for replatting, the question arises
as to whether the tract can be required to dedicate for parks, or whether
the prior platting approval "grandfathers" in the tract so that nark dedi-
cation cannot be required. The further question arises as to whether, if
the first platting is exempt from dedication, the re -platting is subject to
dedication to the extent that the number of lots is increased in the new nlat.
The applicable statute, M.S.A.§462.358 Subd.2, speaks'of "subdivisions
to be developed" and provides that "a reasonable proportion of each proposed
subdivision be dedicated to the public." This suggests that if the subdi-
vision is yet to be developed, dedication could be required of the. entire
subdivision. However, this would result in an inequity between old, exempt
subdivisions and old subdivisions which are no longer exempt because of re -
platting. On the other hand, not to require dedication of re -platted land
would result in an inequity between land presented for platting approval
which has not been platted before and is subject to dedication and that land
which was platted before park dedication was required and is exempt.
If the :area is to be completely re -platted, it seems that tho old
plat is ❑cxL-to-useless in practical terms, and that the fact of prior nlatt-
ing should not stand in the way of park dedication. A useless prior plat
should be no different from no prior platting at all, since neither is holp-
ful to the City in its planning decisions. The purpose of §462.358 is to
aid cities in carrying on planning and to allow a prior plat which will not;
be abrogated to stand in the way of the statute's purpose seems unfair to
the city. So it is arguable that park dedication can be required of land
presented for replatting.
Thegame skettla alsa he top of additional lots if the City decides
not to require dedication of the entire tract. The new lots will increase
the burden on parks beyond the burden which the old plat would have had.
Because of this, it seems clear that dedication can be required of the addi-
tional lots in a re -platted area. ---
'there is no clear legal basis for this conclusion, at least in Minn -
os t?La, but it would appear reasonable to require park dedication for the new
lots. '
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PHH:me„-'- -
cc: Barb Schmidt
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FOR YOUR INFORMATION
The Eagan Park Department has received a gift from the
Eagan Lion's Club of funds to purchase a heavy duty ping
pong table and accessory equipment for the Rahn Building.
A letter of thanks has been written by the department
and plans are underway to open the building for teen
recreational activities.
Permission has been granted by Blue Cross for the install-
ation of a second soccer field on their property. This will
be of great help in meeting the needs of the Eagan Athletic
Organization for fields for their fall programs.
A specific chemical,B.S.M.A.,to kill sand burs has been
recently approved for use. Both Country Home Heights and,
Highview Parks have heavy infestation of this weed. Our
contract sprayer will treat the two parks using this new
chemical for $147.00 or $21.00 per acre. This would be in
addition to the broadleaf weed control program. The Park
Director will secure a recommendation from the U. of Minn.
before ordering the application.
REGULAR MEETING
PARD COPPIITTEE
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
CITY HALL
AUGUST 11, 1977
7:30 P.M.
Paul Hauge
AGENDA
I. 7:30 -
Call to Order, Pledge Of Allegiance.
II. 7:3S -
Approval of .July 14, 1977 minutes.
III. 7:40 -
Establishment of Agenda
IV. 7:45
- Presentations by Developers
A. Willmus Property, Tom Willmus,
Steve Thompson, JOe Bochave
V. 8:15
- Reception of Reports and Communications.
A. Council meeting§ -Tom Hedges.
B. Consultants
C. Park Department Report
1. Park Dedication Research -Ken Damlo
2. Gabbert Development Trail
3. Donneywood update
D. Special Meetings
1. Development Committee
E. Other
VI. 9:00 - Old Business
A. Carlson driveway relocation, Arnie
Carlson, JIm Frisbee
VII. 9:15.- New Business
VIII. 9:30 - Visitors to be heard*
IX. 9:45 - For Your Information
X. 10:00 - Adjournment
*Por those persons who are not on the agenda
The August llnth Park Committee Meeting will be' held in the Park
Department offices due to a conflict with an informational meeting
regarding liwy 494 being held by the Highway Dept. at City.Hall on
the same evening.
Also there will be a Special Park Committee Meeting Thursday,
August 18nth to approve the Park Construction Package. This
meeting will he held at.the City Hall at 7:30 P.M.
Because of the growing need for and interest in non -motorized trails in
Dakota County;
The Planning Advisory Commission recommends that the County Board direct
the County Parks Department and the County Planning Department to establish
the needs and priorities in a county -wide trail plan;
And, investigate the possibility of mutual funding of such trails between
the county and municipalities as well as participation with state agencies
such as MVDOT, and also federal sources.
NEIGHBORHOOD 28
1) Methology for Saturation Population of Neighborhood 28
In the determination of the amount of open space or
park space needed for neighborhood 28 the following procedures
are used:
1) The determination of the boundaries of neighborhood 28
2) To define the already developed areas within neighborhood.
28 and determine the holding capacity when these -
developments have a 100 per cent saturation of population.
3) The determination of the amount of undeveloped land
.within neighborhood 28 and project the holding capacity
at 100 per centpopulation saturation. This is done in
accordance with Eagan's land use guide.
The three factors above will define the saturation of
population. or(holding capacity) when neighborhood 28 is
100% developed. 'Once the estimated number of people have
been calculated for neighborhood 28 a determination may be
made for the amount of park land which should be provided
for neighborhood 28.
Neighborhood Boundaries
Attached Exhibit "A" illustrates -the neighborhood
boundaries used in this study. The boundaries are County
Road No. 30 along the north, County Road 31 (Pilot Knob Road)
along the east, County Road 32 (Cliff Road) along the south
and the proposed alignment for I -35E along the east. -
Easements for I -35E have been provided for in Eagan's
Land Use Development Guide. The Minnesota State Highway
Department has completed.the Environmental Impact Statement
in draft form, and.the construction of I -35E should begin in
the near future.
The neighborhood 28 boundaries mentioned above comprise
all o[ Section 28 (640 acres) and the eastern portion of
Section 29 (239.79 acres) for a total of 879.79 acres.
Saturation Population
The projected holding capacity or sat ration population
of neighborhood 28 is estimated at 10,318 ople. This was
determined by the number of dwelling unitSc-- Committed by
approved subdivision and preliminary plats, -rhe remaining
undeveloped land was then calculated according to the Land
Use Guide.
Table l
Development or Owner Acres No. of Dwelling Units Projected Population
Evergreen Park
72
104
units
364
Rasmussen Addition
17.4
16
units
56
Woodgate Addition
40
130
units
409
Woodgate 2nd Addition
40
160
units
355
Woodgate 3rd Addtion
30.42
410
units
420
Clearview E Strohkirch Add.
40
32
units
112-
Blackhawk PUD
240
670
units
3996
Willmas Development 1
9.2
12
units
42
Willmas Development 2
21.42
42
units
147
Willmas Development .;
37.05
67
units
134.5
Totals 547.49 1373 units 6,135.5
Table I is a break down of the proposed development in neighborhood 28. There
is a total 54':49 acres That are in the develf6ent stage, with a holding capacity
o`. 6135.5 people. Table -2 below is a breakdown of the undeveloped land with _n
neigiborhood 28.
Remaining Land
Acres
No. of Dwelling Units
Projected Population
Play Areas
Land
in R-1 zone
130.5 ac
391.5
units
1370.2
Land
it R-2 zone
102.6 ac
615.6
units
1846.0
Land
in R-3 zone
35.2 ac
420.0
units
966.0
Land
in Conmercial
zone
20 acres
______
Exi;t!Vark
Land
44 acres
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-_--_Total
Tota 1
.332.3
1,125.6
units
4182.2
Gr.ur;
Total
879.79,ecres
2,798.6
units
10,317_.7
10,318
TI.. Park Area Standards
Park area of open space needs are generally expressed in the number of ball
fields, tennis courts, etc, for a given population. This informationisrevi.ed
periodically and there is not one reconized authoritive source.. Rather the source
US e,1 for this study were a combination wherein thereseemedto be general but not.
exl'ict agreement.
Metro Council Development Guide - Open Space Section
Planning Design Criteria - Joseph DeChiara and Lee Koppelman
National Recreation F, Park Association Standards
Eagan Park Development Guide - May 1973
The requirements are generally as follows
Tennis Courts
l
court for
each 1,500 people'
Play Areas
1
play area
for each 1,000 people
Softball Field
1
field for
each 3,000 people
Football Field
1
field for
each 10,000 people
Neighborhood Park
Area
for above
activities: 2 acres for each 1,000 people.
III. Park Area Needs Neighborhood. 28-29
In reference to table 1 neighborhood no. 28.has a
holding.capacity of 10,318. According to Park Area Standards
the need for active neighborhood facilities are as follows:
Tennis.Courts At least six courts will be
needed. These courts should be
strategicly located.throughout
neighborhood 28.
Play Areas By the requirements stated above
10.play areas.should be provided.
However Eagan's plans are
for larger and fewer parks within
the neighborhood.With Thomas
Lake Park in the SE corner of
neighborhood 28 it may be advisable
to request.a smaller play area,
more centrally.located which
would serve the active'pa_rk re-.
quirements.
Softball Fields_ At least three softball fields
should be provided. Possibly
l'or 2. fields could be incorporated
in the active area in Thomas Lake
Park, with the last being incor-
porated,with a designated play
area in the proposed new park.
Neighborhood Park Area Neighborhood 28 has apparent need
for 20.63 acres (2 acres per 1,000
for 10,318) of neighborhood park
area that can accomodate active
park development. With the large
Thomas Lake Park in the southeast
corner of neighborhood 28 an area
of 6-10 acres more centrally
located would serve the proposed
park needs.
IV. Location of Facilities in Neighborhood 28
The location of the facilities mentioned above may possibly
be split in two locations. First, the.active area in Thomas Lake
Park. Secondly, a 6-10 acre park, which should possibly be
located northeast of Mallard.Park 3rd Addition. This proposed
location fora park will be sited in (Exhibit A)'•
NEIGHBORHOOD 28-29
Park Location
Thomas Lake Pilot Knob 5
Park Cliff Road
New proposed East of Johnny
Park Cake Ridge Rd.
V. Summary
Size
approx.
44 acreas
6-10 acres
Tennis Softball Play
Courts Fields Areas
3 1 1'
3 2 1
Although there_is approximately 40 acres of passive park
area in neighborhood 28, some active park land should be
acquired to fulfill the active park requirements. This
parcel.should be in a more centrally located area as compared
to the Thomas Lake Park. With this additional 6-10 acres of
park land all the park requiremenet6 should be met for the
neighborhood activities.
There is.also a proposed major trail system proposed
along the Northern States Power Company easement. This
should be watched closely when development occurs, so as to
obtain the needed easements for the continuation of this trail
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FOR YOUR INFORMATION
Park Director Schmidt has contacted the Metropolitan Mosquito Control
District which is involved in 2 specific kinds of mosquito control.
One program treats temporary ponding areas to kill larvae while the other
kills adult mosquitos in the air. All our park areas can be included in
the latter. Spraying can even be done on request just prior to picnics
and other special events. She will meet with a representative of the
District and Bob Rosene to update the District maps relating to Eagan
park and ponding areas for increased control of mosquitos.
AGENDA
i;
REGULAR MEETING
PARK COMMITTEE
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
CITY HALL
OCTOBER 13, 1977
7:30 P.M.
I. 7:30 - Call to Order, Pledge of Allegiance.
II. 7:35 - Approval of September 8, 1977 minutes.
III. 7:40 - Establishinent of Agenda.
IV. 7:45 - Reception of Reports and Other Communications.
A. Council meetings - Tom Hedges
B. Consultants
C. Park Department
1. Review of Park Grants
2. Letter from Timberline Assoc.
3. Recreation Report - D. Peterson
D. Special Meetings
1. Report from Park Dedication Work
Session
2. Development Committee - Duckwood
E. Other
1. Studies of.Sections 15 and 22
2. Trail Committee Assignment
V. 8:30 - Presentations by Developers
A. Duckwood Estates
B. Wilderness Park III
C. Arnie Carlson - Driveway
D. Eagan Hills
VI. 9:00 - Old Business
A. Review of Summer Recreation Program
costs and survey
B. Report on Johathon trip
C. Budget Review
VII. 9:15 - New Business
VIII. '9:30 - Visitors to be heard*
IX. 9:45 - For your information
X. 10:00- Adjournment
*For those persons.who are not on the agenda
PARK COMMITTEE
October 13, 1977 Agenda Background Information
Reports
1. Council Meetings - Tom Hedges will report on recent Council
actions which include the hiring of CETA employee Don Weckop
as a permanent member of the Park Department maintenance crew.
Don is the first CETA employee to be picked up by the City.
Park Director Schmidt was also authorized to prepare a
grant application to the State Department of Natural Resources
for maintenance funds for our existing cross country ski
trails. Dakota County has been gontacted regarding contracting
for maintenance for this coming season. He will also '-
discuss recent Council action ort Wilderness Park II in
requiring cash in escrow for pending park dedication:;"
2. Park Department - The Park Director has submitted a
number of grants to the State Planning Agency for park
acquisition and development and these will be reviewed for
the committee.
Dorothy Peterson will advise the committee on several
recreation programs which are due to begin soon.
3. Special Meetings - Myrel Lun.dsten will discuss items
covered in the Park Dedication Work Session. The next
meeting of this work study group should be scheduled.
John Voss is available the evening of Thursday, October 20
or Wednesday, October 26, and will have a memo regarding
cash dedication which he would like to explain to the group.
9. Neil Coates will report on the Development Committe tour
of Duckwood Estates.
Developers
1. Duckwood Estates.- John Klein will appear to hear the
Park Committee's decision on park dedication for Duckwood
Estates. Paul Hauge has advised the staff that the dedication
was satisfied according to the rules in effect at the time
it was made and, therefore, today's standards for park and
ponding do not apply to this dedication. Bob Rosene is
contacting IDS Properties regarding the promised easement
on their property from the dedicated park land to the pond
referred to as Duckwood Lake.
Agenda Information Memo
October 7, 1977
Page Two
2. Arnold Carlson will present the plat for Wilderness Run
III. A copy of the planners report is enclosed. An approxi-
mately 16 acre parcel immedicately adjacent to this develop-
ment is scheduled to be dedicated by Ed Dunn as soon as the
future alignment of Lexington Avenue is determined.
According to Bob Rosene this should be completed by February,
1978. It would seem that cash per lot would be the
appropriate dedication but consideration could be given to
walkway easements from this plat into the park property.
3. Oak Chase Park Dedication - See memo to the Committee
from the Park Director regarding alternative park dedications
and assessments. The Council has requested a final decision
on this matter so that it may be resolved at the October 18,
1977 City Council meeting.
4. Ea an Hills - Dale Runkle will report on the reaction
of Ro Hadi rdy to the Park Committee's recommendation for
park credit.for tract construction for Eagan Hills.
Old Business
1. Summer Recreation Costs - Dorothy Peterson will discuss
summer recreation cost comparisions as previously requested
by the Park Committee.
2. Dale Runkle will report on the Jonathon Tour.
3. Barb Schmidt will review the current status of the
Park Department Budget.
FOR YOUR INFORMATION
MC CARTHY HOUSE
Park Director Schmidt has met with Mike Landis of the Minnesota Historical
Society regarding the McCarthy (louse in Patrick Eagan Park. Mr. Landis
does not believe that State or Federal agencies would be interested in the
building but suggests that it does have local historical significance if the
City is`,interested in preserving it. The original McCarthy homestead was a 2
story log cabin built from hand hewn logs. The original logs have been
covered with siding on the outside and paneling on the inside and extra
rooms have been added. Restoring it to the original log cabin would entail
a great deal of work. The Minnesota Historical Society could provide technical
assistance and possibly 50% matching funds through a grant-in-aid program
to accomplish this. Once restored the building could be used as a cross
country ski chalet. It would be small but could accomodate a limited
number of people wishing to warm up after skiing or to check over the map
before going out. Skis could also be rented from this location, an
attendant would be needed which is a cost consideration for any of the above uses.
The City of Eagan should decide whether they wish to restore an example of one of
the original homes built in this community. If so,it could be incorporated
into the park system and utilized to a limited extent. The Historical Society
does endorse use of old buildings rather than simply restoring and preserving
them.
If the City feels it is unable to restore the building at this time, Mr. Landis
recommends that it be saved and perhaps evaluated again years in the future.
It could conceivably have more value to future generations than we can see today.
We have encountered no vandalism problems while the building has been empty.
If any do occur the situation could be reevaluated. I recommend that we not use
the building for a tear gas demonstration at this time.
Mr. Landis will be supplying us with information on restoral techniques and available
grant monies. When this information is received we can evaluate the cost of restoring
and utilizing the building.
OAK POND HILLS
Mr. Floyd Forsberg appeared before the City Council on 9-20-77 and was given final
plat approved for Oak Pond Hills subject to park committee recommendation. This
plat consists of 4 one acre lots on Cliff Rd. east of Lakewood Hills.
The plat is too small for land dedication and park needs for the area will be
accomplished under the Lexington South PUD. The final plat has been approved.
The development agreement is ready to be signed.
Therefore; in order to avoid delaying this development for over 20 days, the
Park Director and the Park Committee chairperson have agreed upon and transmitted
to the City Hall,,the recommendation that cash per lot be required from this
developer.
PARK COMMITTEE MEMBERS -TERMS OF OFFICE
The terms of Park Committee members John Roszak, Roger Martin, and Norm
Hagen which were due to expire in November have been extended until the
organizational meeting in January at which time their reappointments will be
considered as well as the previous vacancy created by'the resignation of Bob
Seuer. Park Committee members wishing to be re -appointed to another three
year term should submit a letter to the City Council expressing their interest
in the position.
For Your Information - Cont.
The City of Eagan Park Department has again received a gift of $250.00 from
Bonestroo, Rosene, Anderlik & Associates Inc. to be used for the purchase
of playground or related equipment wherever suitable.
A thank you letter has been written by the Park Director on behalf of
the Park Committee and the City will also respond.
SOUTH DELAWARE HILLS
0
The rezoning of the Inver Grove Heights portion of South Delaware
Hills was turned down because "the applicant couldn't show cause that
the area had changed substantially enough to warrant a rezoning."
There was opposition from surrounding five acre property owners. The
City Administrator responded to our letter with the statement that
the question of park dedication was "moot" at this time because of the
above action. A copy of the Park Commiptee letter to the Inver Grove
Heights City Council is enclosed for your review.
CURRENT GRANT APPLICATIONS
Representations from the State Planning Agency and the Metropolitan
Council have recently reviewed the sites involved in our three pending
applications.
Decisions on the tennis court and trail grants are expected in mid-
November and on the Lawcon Grant in mid-December.
COMMUNITY EDUCATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
There is a position available for an Eagan resident from the 197
School District on the Community Education Advisory Council for that
district. •�,,_
There is particular interest in having a member from the Park Committee
bacause of the increasing cooperation between community education and
municipal recreation. Any Park Committee member who qualifies, and
is willing to serve on this committee, should contact Tom Lisic, the
Community Education Director.
Park Committee Members are also urged to suggest other people who might
be interested in this position.
An informational meeting will be held on the Cliff Road improvement
project as a part of the regular Council meeting on October 18.
The matter of trails on Cliff Road will be one of the items discussed.
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For your Information - Cont.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Future park on Willmus property is a recommendation rather than a
committement,because Mallard Park (Willmus) does not have a PUD.
Previous Council action was only a rezoning.
, .r
To make this recommendation more official the Eagan Park Guide Map
should be officially revised.
Other similar items include the additional land recommended adjacent
to South Oaks -
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3060 Woodlark Lane
Eagan, Minnesota
September 26, 1977 ?.
Eagan Park Department
3501 Coachman Road
Eagan, Minnesota 55121
Dear Barb,
We were pleased to learn in our recent Timberline meeting that improvements
to Pilot Knob Park are being planned fot'construction in an orderly and
professional manner. Many residents present that evening expressed their
opinions on the current plans for development of the park. While we are in
agreement with the general plans for development, we have a strong consensus
of opinion that specifically does not desire flood lighting to be included
in the plans for the tennis courts. Residents feel the intense flood lighting
required for tennis courts would not be able to be entirely contained on
public landethereby adversely affecting the privacy of those residing near
the park land. A secondary problem could also arise with excessive noise
into the night from players on lighted courts where occupants desire peace
and quiet in the evening.
It is noted that appropriate security lighting should be installed to
protect equipment in the park and in the "pump house" area. Lighting of
this intensity would not have the adverse flooding effect that would be
created by the proposed tennis court lighting.
Future plans for the park should include consideration of playground equipment
for the many children in the nearby neighborhoods. In other park areas
timber style forts, swings, spring type animals and sand areas have seemed
to fill the recreational needs of children in this age group.
As you are well aware, the residents of Timberline have worked several years
toward the acquisition and development of a Pilot Knob Park. These comments
are meant to be positive and constructive in nature and as a representative
expression of the majority of Timberline residents. We do appreciate your
continuing concern for the quality development of the Eagan Park System.
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Yours very truly,
T RLINE IVIC ASSOCIATION
Arthur M Wallace,,President.
COST COMPARISONS - SUMER IN THE PARK
To definitively compare summer program costs with other communities in the
area was not possible as precisely as I would have preferred. The major
reason being none had broken down attendance and cost figures. Secondly,
the programs vary from community to community so much that in using cost
figures to evaluate a program, one loses sight of the real service the
program gives the community and one can not assess that unless one is aware
of all other alternatives the children have. Such as summer school, day
time athletic association committments and the like.
Rosemount:
Seven week program at 4 parks, run 2 days a week each (like our
Lexington -Burr Oaks), morning and afternoon sessions. Fifth day of the
week was for special events such as field trips, Jr. Olympics etc. Two
leaders per park: Adult leader $3.00 per hour, aide a CETA person --had
2 sets of leaders. No registration fee, charged 25¢ fee for craft projects.
Averaged 10-15 children at a park per session. Projecting cost figures
from this data: $.90 per child per total attendance. This does not
include the craft or special event budget figures which were unavailable
but based solely on leader salary costs.
Shakopee:
Seven week program, five days a week, morning playground sessions,
afternoons for crafts and puppetry. Hired 4 leaders, really 2 leaders
and an aide each. Summer budget of $3450 to cover salaries and craft
supplies. Averaged 35 children per session no reg. fee. Cost per child
per total attendance in the neighborhood of $1.40 per child.
New Brighton:
Six week program at seven sights --no registration fee; 2 leaders per
location. Worked on a salary schedule based on age and experience... example
high school sr. with no exp. $2.40 per hour, college freshman $2.45, college
grad. $2.90 with I yr. exp. High school Sr. $2.50, college freshmna $2.55,
college grad. $3.00. Average salary was $2.90 - 3.00 an hour. Leaders
worked 6 hrs. a day. Had morning, afternoon and evening sessions; averaged
20 children per session. Projected cost per child per total attendance
based on salary alone is $.55 per child. No cost for crafts, athletic
equipment or special events included in this accounting. This is based on
salaries of $1002 per sight; 60 children per day, S days a week for 6 weeks.
Hopkins:
Seven week program, 17 parks plus 2 travel wagons. Two leaders per
park, leader $3.50-4.15 per hour, Jr. Leader $2.35 per hour. Playgrounds
ran 4 full days and i day on Friday. Leaders worked 27 hours a week. Did
not have attendance figures analyzed but felt they averaged 20-30 children
per sight per session. Craft budget of $35 per park per week! Based on
lowest average attendance and lowest salaries cost per child per total
attendance about $1.07.
South St. Paul:
Seven week program with registration fees varying from $3 to $10 depending
on age group and activities included for that age. Total registration of 440
children. Mad 4 leaders, one day camp director, one tiny tots director, 1 teen
director and 1 bus driver paid 3.50 to 3.90 an hour. CETA employees used as
aides to keep a 1-30 leader -child ratio. Fees pay for perhaps 20% of costs.
$11,000 budgeted for salaries. With an average daily attendance of 409
children, 5 days a week for 7 weeks the cost per child per total attendance
would be about $.77. This is based on salaries alone as craft supplies etc.
are covered by the registration fee.
Eden Prairie:
Eight week program; the most varied and diversified program in the
area. Charge a fee of $2.50 per child or $5 per family. Use two leaders
per location except for preschoolers who have 3 leaders. Fee does not
begin to cover the cost of the program. Averaged 15-20 children per session
at 6 tiny tot a.m. programs and summer fun afternoon programs 4 days a week
plus two evenings. The recreation director did not have any figures to give
me so I cannot guess on a comparable cost.
Their teen summer work program is a $6000 program in the budget. Had
35-40 teens working alongside CETA workers supervised by 2 leaders. The
teens were paid 50¢ an hour; would work a 12 hour week and then get a
recreational activity like going down the Apple River. If they didn't work
12 hours, they didn't get to go on the trip.
As can be noted from just these six cities, no two programs are the
same. Each is built to fit the needs of that particular community. Salaries
offered to leaders vary significantly, those with higher salaries attract
older more experienced people to work as leaders. Length of program varies
from six to eight weeks depending on community needs. Not all communities
have a tiny tot program, not all have programs especially for teens. Some
communities are highly programmed and minutely scheduled, others are more open.
Many communities have culminating activities involving all the children at one
sight; this does not always involve busing. Rosemount. or Shakopee for
example. i
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NEIGHBORHOOD 15
Methodology for saturation population of Neighborhood 15.
In the determination of the amount of open space or park space
needed for Neighborhood 15 the following procedures were used:
1. The `determination of the boundaries of Neighborhood 15
2. To define the already developed areas within Neighborhood
15 and determine the holding capacity when these developments
have a 100 per cent saturation of population.
3. The determination of the amount of undeveloped land within
Neighborhood 15 and project the holding capacity at 100 per
cent population saturation. This is done in accordance with
Eagan's Land Use Guide.
The tree facts above will define the saturation of population
or (holding capacity) when Neighborhood 15 is 100 per cent
developed. Once the estimated number of people have been
calculated for Neighborhood 15 a determination may be made
for the amount of park land which should be provided for
Neighborhood 15.
Neighborhood Boundaries
Attached Exhibit "A" illustrates the neighborhood boundaries
used in this study. The boundaries are Yankee Doodle Road to
the north; the future alignment of Wescott Road to the south;
County Road 43 (Lexington Avenue) to the east and County Road
31 (Pilot Knob Road) to the west. The boundary lines mentioned
above include 640 acres or all of Section 15.
Saturation Population
The projected holding capacity or saturation population of
Neighborhood 15 is estimated between 5228.4 and 6650.4 people.
This was determined by the number of dwelling units committed
by approved subdivision and preliminary plats. The remaining
undeveloped land was then calculated according to the 'land
use guide.
TABLE 1
Proposed
Developments
Total
Lots or
.- Total
Developments
Acres
Units
-'Population
Pilot
Knob
Heights
lst
Addition
46.1 ac
11
38.5
Pilot
Knob
Heights
2nd
Addition
38.2 ac
8
28.0
Pilot
Knob
Heights
3rd
Addition
8.0 ac
1
3.5
Pilot
Knob
Heights
4th
Addition
34.49 ac
45
157.5
Homesteads
8.75 ac
5
17.5 -
135.54
70
245
Neighborhood 15
Page 2
Total
Timbershores Addition Acres
1st and 2nd Additions 7 ac
3rd and 4th Additions 14 ac
Block 2, Lot 1 4.75 ac
199.59 ac
TABLE II
Lots or Total
Units Population
58 quads 174
116 quads 348
313 1008.5 - --'
Projected Undeveloped Land
Commercial Land
112.3 ac
,
Limited Business
20.0 ac
R-4 (Residential
83.54 ac
(Low)
(High)
(Low)
(High)
Multiple District)
1002.48
1002.48
2806.9
2806.9
R-2 (Residential
157. ac
471
945
1413
2835
Double District)
372.84 ac
1473.48
1947.48
4219.4
5641.9
Total Projected Population
5228.4
6650.4
The remaining land which can not be developed is 67.66 acres. The
breakdown is as'follows:
27 acres committed for I -35E
8.07 existing park
32.58 ac water total of 640 ac.
Park Area Standards
Park area or open space needs are generally expressed in the
number of gall fields, tennis courts, etc. for a given popula-
tion. This information is revised periodically and there is
not one recognized authoritive source. Rather the source
used for this tudy was a combination wherein there seemed to
be general but not exact agreement.
Metro Council Development Guide - Open Space Section
Planning Design Criteria - Joseph DeChiara and Lee Koppelman
"ational Recreation and Park Association Standards
Eagan Park Development Guide - May 1973
RLI
Neighborhood 15
Page 3
The requirements are generally as follows:
Tennis courts
Play areas
Softball Field
Football Field
Neighborhood park area for above activities:
2 acres for each 1,000 people
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Park Area Needs
In reference to table 1 and 2, Neighborhood 15 has a holdin`g-�,
capacity between 5,265 and 6,554 people. According toithe
park area standards the need for active neighborhood`faciliti:es
are as follows:
Tennis Courts: 3 to 4 tennis courts should be I
located in Section 15. With
tennis facilities being in
popular demand it may be neces-
sary to supply more than the
required amount of tennis courts.
Play Areas By the requirement listed above,
5-6 play areas should be provided.
However, Eagan's plans are for larger
and fewer parks within the neigh-
borhood. Since there are no play
areas within neighborhood 15 it
may be advisable to incorporate
tot lots in any active park the
city is planning to provide for
Section 15.
Softball Fields At least two softball fields should
be provided. There fields should
be incorporated into one active
park for the neighborhood.
Neighborhood Park Area Neighborhood 15 has apparent need
for 10 - 13 acres. ( 2 acres
per 1,000 for 5,265 to 6,554
population) for active park needs.
Nieghborhood 15 has 8.07 passive
park, which would be difficult
to convert to any active park needs
because of the topography. An
additional 7 to 10 acres should be
provided to fulfill the active
park requirements of Neighborhood
15.
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Location of Facilities in Neighborhood 15
It has been difined that there is a need for a 7 to 10 acre park
in Neighborhood 15 to serve the active park requirement. The
location of this active park should be in the southern portion
of the section because most of the residential development
will occur in the area. The northern portion of the neighbor-
hood is zoned for commercial development so there should not
be any residential development in this area. A trail system
hsould be considered leading from the.commercial area in the
northern portion of the section to the active park area in
the southern portion of the neighborhood. Exhibit
A sites the proposed active park and trail.
Summary
Although there is an existing 8.07 acre passive park in=' - -
neighbhorhood 15, there should be an additional 7 t0 t0'acres•-.-
to fulfill the active park requirements. A trail may also
be added to connect the residential area to the shopping
and active park facilities.
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„��,00 NEIGHBORHOOD'22 STUDY
MethSlogy for saturation population of Neighborhood 22.- r
In the determination of the amount of open spac;Ylor .- .r--> •,_
park ,space needed . for Neighborhood 22 the following p`rocedtires•� 7 1
were used:
1) The determination of the boundaries of Neighborhood 22.
2) To define the already developed areas within
Neighborhood 22 and determine the holding capacity
when these developments have a 100 per cent
saturation of population.
3) The determination of the amount of undeveloped
land within Neighborhood 22 and project the
holding capacity at 100 per cent population
saturation. This is done in accordance with
Eagan's Land Use Guide.
The three.factors above will define the saturation of
population (or holdinq capacity) when neighborhood 22 is
100 per cent developed. Once the estimated number of
people have been calculated for Neighborhood 22 a determination
may be made for the amount of park land which should be
provided for Neighborhood 22.
I. NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES
Attached Exhibit "A” illustrates the neighborhood
boundaries used in this study. The boundaries are the north
section line of Section 22. (The future alignment of
Wescott Road, to the south; County Road Number 30; to
the cast, County Road Number 43 (Lexington Ave.) and to the
west, County Road Number 31 (Pilot Knob Road). The boundary
lines mentioned above include all of Section 22.
Saturation Population
The projected holding capacity or saturation population
of Neighborhood 22 is estimated between 5,224 and 8,410
people. This was determined by the number of dwelling units,
committed by approved subdivisions and preliminary plats.
The remaining undeveloped land was then calculated according
to the Land Use Guide.
Neighborhood 22
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Developement or
Owner
Skovdale
Skovdale No. 2
Hilltop Estates
TABLE I
Number of
Acres Dwelling Units
11.90
5
13.41
8
74.8
221
(Church & Neighbor-
hood Business) 9,7 0
Projected
Population
17.5
28.0
381.5 single
336.0 townhouse
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Total Developed 109.81 234 763.0
Table 1 is a break down of the proposed development in
Neighborhood 22. There is a total of 109.81 acres that are
in the development stage,with a holding capacity of 763
people. Table 2 is a breakdown of undeveloped land within /
Neighborhood 22.
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TABLE 2 j
Remaining Land Acres No. of Dwelling Units
3 units/ac 6 units/ac
*Land in A zone 424.85 1274.55 2549.1
Existing,Park Land 95.84 0 0
Existing Lakes &
Ponds 9.5 0 0
Total
530.19
1274.55
2549.1
Grand Total
640
1508.55
2783.1
Projected Population
3/ac 6/ac
4460.9 7647.3
0 0
0 0
4460.9 7647.3 -
5223.9 8410.3
*The zoning map has the remaining land in agricultural
use at this time, however, the Land Use Guide has this
area defined as Rll - 3-6 units per acre.
Table 2 shows the breakdown of the remaining undeveloped
land in Neighborhood 22. The holding capacity was then
determined by using a low and high density according to
�Eagan's Land Use Guide.,;The low population saturation was
calculated by,"usin4 3 units per acre and the high population
`\saturation• was,, determined by using 6 units per acre.
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II -"PARK -AREA STANDARDS
Park area or open space needs are generally expressed
in the number of ball fields, tennis courts, etc. for a
given population. This information is revised periodically
and there is not one recognized authoritative source.
Rather the source used for this study was a combination where
in there seemed to be general but not exact agreement.
Metro Council Development Guide - Open Space Section
Planning Design Criteria -,Joseph DeChiara and Lee Koppelman
National Recreation and Park Association Standards
Eagan's Park Development Guide - May 1973
Pi�•ighborhood 22
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The requirements are generally as follows:
Tennis courts
1
court
for
each 1,500 people
Play areas
1
play area
for each 1,000 people
Softball Field
1
field
for
each 3,000 people
Football Field
1
field
for
each 10,000 -people
Neighborhood Park Area
2
acres
for
each 1,000 people
III. PARK AREA NEEDS NEIGHBORHOOD 22
In reference to Table 1
and 2, Neighborhood 22 has a
holding capacity between 5,224 and 8,410 people. According
to Park Area Standards the need for active neighborhood
facilities are as follows:
Tennis Courts According to the holding capacit;-
of Neighborhood 22, 4 to 6 tennis
courts are needed to satisfy the
park requirements. These courts
should be centrally located and
accessible by all people
within the neiqhborhood.
Play Areas
According to the requirements
stated above, 5 to 8 play areas
should be provided. However,
Eagan's plans are for larger
and fewer parks within the,neigh-
borhood. With Patrick Eagan.
Park located in the eastern
portion of the neighborhood
it may be advisable to request
larger and fewer play areas
more centrally located in
Neighborhood 22.
Softball Fields 1' to 2 softball fields should
be provided in Neighborhood 22.
If possible an active area
should be incorporated in Patrick
Eagan Park to accomodate the
active park requirements.
Neighborhood Park Area Neighborhood 22 has apparent need
for approximately 10 to 16 acres
(2 acres, 1000 people) of neighborhood
park that can accomodate active
park development. Patrick Eagan
Park (a passive park) should
incorporate 10-16 acres of land
for active activities. If
this is not possible, then 10-
16 acres should be obtained
in a centrally located area within
Neighborhood 22.
Nuirihborho od 22
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IV. LOCATION OF FACILITIES IN NEIGHBORHOOD 22
The location of the facilities mentioned above may
possible be located in Patrick Eagan Park. This park contains
approximately 96 acres of which 10 to 16 acres may be
converted to active park area. Since this park is within
3/4 of a mile walking distance from any dwelling unit in
the neighborhood the location would be suitable to meet the
active needs of this area.
If this park is not feasible to provide for the active
needs of Neighborhood 22 the alternative location for the
10-16 'acre of active park land should be located in the
SW; of the NE; of Section 21. Axhibit A will site the
alternative location of the proposed active park.
Neighborhood 22
V. SUMMARY
Although there is approximately 96 acres of passive park
area in Neighborhood 22, some active parkland should be
acquired to fulfill the active park requirements. This
should either be incorporated into the Patrick Eagan Park
or acquired elsewhere if the topography is not feasible
for active needs listed above. With the additional 10-
16 acres of park land all the park requirements should be
-net for the neighborhood activities.
Presently there are proposed trails which will provide
access to the east side of Patrick Eagan Park. As development
occurs to the west of the park, a trail system should be
provided so access may be acquired on the west side of Patrick
Eagan Park. This would allow good internal circulation
within the neighborhood and provide adequate access to
Patrick Eagan Park.
Dale Runkle
August 9, 1977
Tennis
Softball
Play
Park
Location
Size
Courts
Fields
Areas
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Northwest of
Approx.
2
1
1
Co. Rd. 43 and
96 ac.
Pilot Knob Rd.
New proposed
Northeast
Park
of Deerwood Dr..10-16
ac.
4
1
1
V. SUMMARY
Although there is approximately 96 acres of passive park
area in Neighborhood 22, some active parkland should be
acquired to fulfill the active park requirements. This
should either be incorporated into the Patrick Eagan Park
or acquired elsewhere if the topography is not feasible
for active needs listed above. With the additional 10-
16 acres of park land all the park requirements should be
-net for the neighborhood activities.
Presently there are proposed trails which will provide
access to the east side of Patrick Eagan Park. As development
occurs to the west of the park, a trail system should be
provided so access may be acquired on the west side of Patrick
Eagan Park. This would allow good internal circulation
within the neighborhood and provide adequate access to
Patrick Eagan Park.
Dale Runkle
August 9, 1977