09/16/1981 - City Council SpecialSPECIAL MEETING OF THE ADVISORY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
Wednesday, September 16, 1981
Members present: Martin, Masin, Carroll, Thurston, McNeely, Johnson,
Fedde, also present was the Director of Parks and Recreation. Absent:
Thomas, Tilley.
Chairman Martin called the meeting to order at 7:10 P.M. A brief re-
view for the Advisory Committee members the work that had been completed
by the study committee on the Master Parks Plan. He called their
attention to the various needs that had been identified by the study
committee to be included in the development of a master plan and study
and presented a draft of a letter from the Advisory Committee to the
City Council. He indicated that this evenings task was to review the
draft of a letter for further refinement and transmittal to the City
Council. And, how and when a recommendation to the Council would be
made.
The Advisory Committee began to review the draft of the letter to the
City Council. Each paragraph was read aloud with comments and discussion
on each item to insure its completeness. Several comments were offered
by the members of the Advisory Committee to insure that the council
was made aware of the fact that the master plan was an essential item
for the City at this time because of the critical period of growth in
which the City is currently involved in.
After lengthy review of the letter with several rewritten paragraphs.
There was a motion by'Fedde, seconded by Carroll to submit the letter
and recommendation for the purposes of developing a system wide Master
Park Plan for the City of Eagan, estimated at the cost of $35,000.00
to be submitted to the council at the earliest opportunity. Members
discussed the importance of the letter and the issue and agreed that
it would be advisable for members of the Advisory Committee to be
present at the time of presentation to the City Council if at all
possible.
There being no further business to discuss, motion was made with all
members accepting that the meeting adjourn at 8:55 P.M.
Dated: September 16, 1981 KV
Advisory Park ;R eation Co t'ee
Secretary
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MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE ADVISORY PARK AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
SEPTEMBER 3, 1981
A regular meeting of the Eagan Advisory Park and Recreation Committee
was held on September 3, 1981 at the Eagan City Hall. The regular meeting
was proceeded by a parks tour as the committee members reviewed South Oaks
Park, Lakeside Park and a brief tour of the trail in Hill Top Estates.
Those members present at the meeting were Thurston, Carroll, Martin, Masin
and McNeely. Also present was the Director of Parks and Recreation.
Committee members absent were Johnson, Thomas, Tilley and Fedde.
MINUTES
On a motion by Thurston, seconded by Masin, all members voted in
favor, the minutes of the regular meeting held on August 6, 1981 were
approved as read.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
A motion by Thurston, seconded by McNeely, all members voted in favor,
the agenda of September 3, 1981 was approved and included an additional
item for quit claiming of property to Leo Murphy.
LEO MURPHY: PROPERTY QUIT CLAIM
Mr. Leo Murphy reviewed for members of the parks committee the history
of a land purchase which resulted in the present ownership by the City of
Blackhawk Park and of his property immediately to the south of Blackhawk.
He indicated that during this property exchange that a small angular
portion which originally was for the purpose of a roadway easement connect-
ing up the two parcels was still in affect. He indicated that this ease-
ment affected his property and clouded the title of his land. lie indicated
that he felt that at the time the City resolved a different issue regard-
ing the south boundary line, that this triangular portion had also been
resolved with it. He stated that this was not the case and that the legal
description did not include this triangular portion. Mr. Murphy concluded
his detailed presentation answering numerous questions by members of the
Advisory Parks Committee. Committee member Carroll indicated that this
easement into Blackhawk Park leads to rear property lines of residential
home owners and can serve no purposes for the parks. After further dis-
cussion, a motion by Carroll, seconded by Martin, with all members voting
in favor; that the recommendation of the parks committee that the City
enter into a quit claim agreement of that portion of the property de-
scribed as the northwest corner of Leo Murphy's property and the southwest
corner of Blackhawk Park as described and shown in the materials presented,
be deeded to Mr. Murphy. Committee members assumed that cost incurred for
this quit claim would be borne by Mr. Murphy.
COUNCIL ACTION: PARKS DEDICATION
The Director of Parks and Recreation reviewed for the members positive
response of the City Council had taken on its recommendation for increase
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September 3, 1981
Page 2
of park dedication fees. lie indicated that it was the intent of the
council to insure that 50a of new dedication need to go for development
of parks. The director indicated that he felt that the council was
making an indication that it felt that the development of the parks
system should receive some priority in the years ahead by the park
committee. Chairman Martin indicated that he was pleased with the
concurrence by the City Council, and that the committee should continue
to review parks dedication on an annual basis.
STUDY COM1%1ITTEE FOR PARKS MASTER PLAN
Committee member Carroll commented that he now feels that parks
master planning is an essential ingredient that the City should proceed
with. Chairman Martin indicated that from the previous presentations,
that the City needs a master parks plan and he feels very strongly in
this regard and that the parks committee and council should proceed with
this study. Committee member Thurston indicated that she was in total
agreement that a parks master plan was necessary, but was concerned
about the funding of the cost. She indicated that the committee would
need to do something soon to bring this to the attention of the City
Council if there is any hopes of achieving this objective in 1982.
There was a lengthy discussion by the members of the Advisory Parks
Committee concerning the elements of the plan that would be necessary
for a consultant/staff/officials to study. Committee member Carroll
indicated that the parks committee should lay out in a brief form
what it was they are after in the master plan, a time frame, steps
involved, and the potential request for funding. Without this the
park committee would not be in a position to make a request to the City
Council. Chairman Martin indicated that perhaps the committee could
still map this out tonight so the committee could speed its recommendation
to the council during its budget discussions. A concern was expressed
by the committee as to if it could do this in as detailed a form as
might be desirable for presentation to the council and whether they are
in a position to decide what the staff could do and what the committee
could do in the master plans process. .A second lengthy discussion followed
concerning the gathering of data and presentation to the City Council
at an opportune time for consideration in the budget. It was then
decided that a study committee would meet on Wednesday, September 9 at
7:00 P.M. for purposes of defining the parks master plan components.
A special committee meeting would also be held on September 16 for
final review and action by the entire Advisory Committee with the recommend-
ation then being made to the City Council.
Committee members were assigned responsibility in reviewing the
master plans available to them and to study the minutes of the first
two meetings as well as the Director of Parks and Recreation last
communication to the committee.
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Advisory Park Committee Minutes
September 3, 1931
Page 3
NORTHVIEW ATHLETIC FIELDS
The Director of Parks and Recreation briefly reviewed the councils
action in regards to Northview Athletic Fields and the improvements
currently underway on the softball fields. He indicated that he had
encountered additional problems that weren't expected which would cause
additional work by the staff to correct. There were several discussion
questions in regards to this issue with no action being taken by the
parks committee.
DONATION
The director indicated that he had received a check from the
engineering consulting firm to be used for park purposes. Committee
member Thurston asked that a thank you letter be sent showing the
committee's appreciation for this donation.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to conduct, on a motion by Carroll,
seconded by Masin, the parks committee adjourned at 9:25 P.M.
Dated: September 3, 1981 KV
;v�isoryark & Recreation Committee
Secretary
SPECIAL MEETING OF THE ADVISORY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
Wednesday, September 16, 1981
Members present: Martin, Masin, Carroll, Thurston, McNeely, Johnson,
Fedde, also present was the Director of Parks and Recreation. Absent:
Thomas, Tilley.
Chairman Martin called the meeting to order at 7:10 P.M. A brief re-
view for the Advisory Committee members the work that had been completed
by the study committee on the Master Parks Plan. He called their
attention to the various needs that had been identified by the study
committee to be included in the development of a master plan and study
and presented a draft of a letter from the Advisory Committee to the
City Council. He indicated that this evenings task was to review the
draft of a letter for further refinement and transmittal to the City
Council. And, how and when a recommendation to the Council would be
made.
The Advisory Committee began to review the draft of the letter to the
City Council. Each paragraph was read aloud with comments and discussion
on each item to insure its completeness. Several comments were offered
by the members of the Advisory Committee to insure that the council
was made aware of the fact that the master plan was an essential item
for the City at this time because of the critical period of growth in
which the City is currently involved in.
After lengthy review of the letter with several rewritten paragraphs.
There was a motion by'Fedde, seconded by Carroll to submit the letter
and recommendation for the purposes of developing a system wide Master
Park Plan for the City of Eagan, estimated at the cost of $35,000.00
to be submitted to the council at the earliest opportunity. Members
discussed the importance of the letter and the issue and agreed that
it would be advisable for members of the Advisory Committee to be
present at the time of presentation to the City Council if at all
possible.
There being no further business to discuss, motion was made with all
members accepting that the meeting adjourn at 8:55 P.M.
Dated: September 16, 1981 KV
Advisory Park ;R eation Co t'ee
Secretary
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MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE ADVISORY PARK AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
SEPTEMBER 3, 1981
A regular meeting of the Eagan Advisory Park and Recreation Committee
was held on September 3, 1981 at the Eagan City Hall. The regular meeting
was proceeded by a parks tour as the committee members reviewed South Oaks
Park, Lakeside Park and a brief tour of the trail in Hill Top Estates.
Those members present at the meeting were Thurston, Carroll, Martin, Masin
and McNeely. Also present was the Director of Parks and Recreation.
Committee members absent were Johnson, Thomas, Tilley and Fedde.
MINUTES
On a motion by Thurston, seconded by Masin, all members voted in
favor, the minutes of the regular meeting held on August 6, 1981 were
approved as read.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
A motion by Thurston, seconded by McNeely, all members voted in favor,
the agenda of September 3, 1981 was approved and included an additional
item for quit claiming of property to Leo Murphy.
LEO MURPHY: PROPERTY QUIT CLAIM
Mr. Leo Murphy reviewed for members of the parks committee the history
of a land purchase which resulted in the present ownership by the City of
Blackhawk Park and of his property immediately to the south of Blackhawk.
He indicated that during this property exchange that a small angular
portion which originally was for the purpose of a roadway easement connect-
ing up the two parcels was still in affect. He indicated that this ease-
ment affected his property and clouded the title of his land. lie indicated
that he felt that at the time the City resolved a different issue regard-
ing the south boundary line, that this triangular portion had also been
resolved with it. He stated that this was not the case and that the legal
description did not include this triangular portion. Mr. Murphy concluded
his detailed presentation answering numerous questions by members of the
Advisory Parks Committee. Committee member Carroll indicated that this
easement into Blackhawk Park leads to rear property lines of residential
home owners and can serve no purposes for the parks. After further dis-
cussion, a motion by Carroll, seconded by Martin, with all members voting
in favor; that the recommendation of the parks committee that the City
enter into a quit claim agreement of that portion of the property de-
scribed as the northwest corner of Leo Murphy's property and the southwest
corner of Blackhawk Park as described and shown in the materials presented,
be deeded to Mr. Murphy. Committee members assumed that cost incurred for
this quit claim would be borne by Mr. Murphy.
COUNCIL ACTION: PARKS DEDICATION
The Director of Parks and Recreation reviewed for the members positive
response of the City Council had taken on its recommendation for increase
0 0
Advisory Park Committee Minutes
September 3, 1981
Page 2
of park dedication fees. lie indicated that it was the intent of the
council to insure that 50a of new dedication need to go for development
of parks. The director indicated that he felt that the council was
making an indication that it felt that the development of the parks
system should receive some priority in the years ahead by the park
committee. Chairman Martin indicated that he was pleased with the
concurrence by the City Council, and that the committee should continue
to review parks dedication on an annual basis.
STUDY COM1%1ITTEE FOR PARKS MASTER PLAN
Committee member Carroll commented that he now feels that parks
master planning is an essential ingredient that the City should proceed
with. Chairman Martin indicated that from the previous presentations,
that the City needs a master parks plan and he feels very strongly in
this regard and that the parks committee and council should proceed with
this study. Committee member Thurston indicated that she was in total
agreement that a parks master plan was necessary, but was concerned
about the funding of the cost. She indicated that the committee would
need to do something soon to bring this to the attention of the City
Council if there is any hopes of achieving this objective in 1982.
There was a lengthy discussion by the members of the Advisory Parks
Committee concerning the elements of the plan that would be necessary
for a consultant/staff/officials to study. Committee member Carroll
indicated that the parks committee should lay out in a brief form
what it was they are after in the master plan, a time frame, steps
involved, and the potential request for funding. Without this the
park committee would not be in a position to make a request to the City
Council. Chairman Martin indicated that perhaps the committee could
still map this out tonight so the committee could speed its recommendation
to the council during its budget discussions. A concern was expressed
by the committee as to if it could do this in as detailed a form as
might be desirable for presentation to the council and whether they are
in a position to decide what the staff could do and what the committee
could do in the master plans process. .A second lengthy discussion followed
concerning the gathering of data and presentation to the City Council
at an opportune time for consideration in the budget. It was then
decided that a study committee would meet on Wednesday, September 9 at
7:00 P.M. for purposes of defining the parks master plan components.
A special committee meeting would also be held on September 16 for
final review and action by the entire Advisory Committee with the recommend-
ation then being made to the City Council.
Committee members were assigned responsibility in reviewing the
master plans available to them and to study the minutes of the first
two meetings as well as the Director of Parks and Recreation last
communication to the committee.
0 0
Advisory Park Committee Minutes
September 3, 1931
Page 3
NORTHVIEW ATHLETIC FIELDS
The Director of Parks and Recreation briefly reviewed the councils
action in regards to Northview Athletic Fields and the improvements
currently underway on the softball fields. He indicated that he had
encountered additional problems that weren't expected which would cause
additional work by the staff to correct. There were several discussion
questions in regards to this issue with no action being taken by the
parks committee.
DONATION
The director indicated that he had received a check from the
engineering consulting firm to be used for park purposes. Committee
member Thurston asked that a thank you letter be sent showing the
committee's appreciation for this donation.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to conduct, on a motion by Carroll,
seconded by Masin, the parks committee adjourned at 9:25 P.M.
Dated: September 3, 1981 KV
;v�isoryark & Recreation Committee
Secretary