04/04/1985 - Advisory Parks & Recreation Commission
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE
ADVISORY PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
APRIL 4, 1985
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Martin at 7:25 P.M. A visit to
the proposed athletic park site preceded the regular meeting. Members present
were Alt, Masin, Thurston, Fedde,,Martin, Kubik and Ketcham (arrived 10:25.)
Members absent were Bertz, Carroll and Caponi. Staff present included Parks &
Recreation Director, Ken Vraa; Landscape Architect, Stephen Sullivan;
Assistant Planner, Greg Ingraham; Liz Witt, and Gary King speaking on King
Addition.
AGENDA
Parks & Recreation Director Vraa noted three add-ons to other business - Eagan
125th Celebration, Four Oaks condominiums and the Kehne House. On a motion by
Thurston, seconded by Fedde, the Commission approved the agenda as-amended.
MINUTES - MARCH 7, 1985
On page four, Fish Lake Park Plan, Commission member Kubik indicated that
boats with electric motors can be allowed as long as they are consistent with
the City ordinance. On page six, budget, an error in the amount shown in the
Park Site Acquisition and Development Fund was noted. Commission member Kubik
moved, Masin seconded, to approve the minutes as corrected. All voted in
favor.
To circumvent a potentially long wait, the King First Addition under "Old
Business" was moved up on the agenda.
4a. King First Addition - Gary King
Mr. King has received preliminary plat approval for ten lots on approximately
seven acres. Lot lines in the southern site extend into the ponding area.
Previous discussion about this site indicated that the City should acquire
about 1.08 acres, all of which is below the high-water level. Director Vraa
noted that a 50% credit could be given if 70% of the gross area is above the
high-water mark. Such is not the case. If the 70% requirement were waived
and the 50% formula applied to the 1.08 acres, the dedication would equal .54
acres or a quarter acre short of required acreage. Additional cash dedication
could be recommended to completely fulfill park dedication requirements.
Sandy Masin asked if it were possible to get a trail in that area. Director
Vraa responded that it probably would not be. Construction of a trail would
require acquisition from numerous owners and did not appear likely. Mr. King
spoke in regards to the proposed dedication. Chairman Martin moved, Carolyn
Thurston seconded, the recommendation to accept 1.08 acres for a credit of .54
acres and the remainder of the dedication to be cash, with the amount to be
determined after. completion of a survey and final plat document.
All voted in favor. Mr. King noted his agreement with this proposal.
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DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. Blackhawk Glen - Sienna Corporation
The proposal is to rezone 61.6 acres from A to R1 for 111 lots. The site is
just south of the previously proposed Hampton Heights and will be served by
Blue Cross/Blue Shield Park. The developer is proposing larger lots where the
site borders Blackhawk Hills and smaller lots in the center. The Planning
Commission denied the proposal and the developer will probably come back with
changes. The Planning Commission wants larger lots.
Commission member Kubik said he was concerned with the conversion of large
amounts of agriculture zoned land to more dense zoning. He wondered which had
precedence - the Comprehensive Guide Plan or zoning. Greg Ingraham stated
that in his conversations with attorneys, the Comp. Plan and zoning carry
equal weight. Commission member Kubik noted that this was a Planning
Commission item, but he did want to voice his concern. Greg Ingraham said
there will be a joint review soon of the Comp. Guide Plan. Commission member
Alt said she was supportive of the Planning Commission action to deny the
application based on the smaller front footage. Other members agreed.
On a motion by Fedde, seconded by Alt, the Commission recommended that if the
Council approved the proposal, the Commission requests cash dedication and
trail construction along Ashbury, Coachman Road and Blackhawk Hills Road, east
of Ashbury. All voted in favor.
B. Splashland Water Park
This proposal is located near Metcalf Jr. High School near Cedar and Diffley.
The developers wish to rezone 33.16 acres from A and GB to a PD, allowing for
a recreational water park and entertainment facility. It would feature a
series of water slides, a wave pool, an amphitheater and a park-like area
which would be open from June through August. Ken Vraa asked the Commission
to consider whether credit should be given because the facility is
recreational in scope. Mike Fedde did not think any special
considerations should be given as the facility is much like a bowling alley,
is of questionable recreational benefit to the City, and it will be operated
by a "for profit" group. There was also discussion of the possibility that if
park dedication were reduced or waived and the water park folded, the City
could not require dedication from another proposed use for the same site. Ken
Vraa noted that cash dedication would equal about $50,000 if the projet gains
approval. It was noted that credit was given to Sperry for their ball fields,
although Eagan was able to utilize the fields for City recreational
programming. Commission noted that there was clearly a difference between the
two developments.
Chairman Martin moved, Kubik seconded, the recommendation to accept cash
dedication at the commercial/ industrial rate. There should be no recreational
credit given-because the venture is private enterprise and Eagan residents
receive no special recreation benefit or consideration. The motion carried
unanimously.
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C. Summerfield Addition - Tri-Land Properties
The proposal is for 38 single family lots with zero lot lines near the
intersection of Dodd Road and Wilderness Run. The site is part of the
Lexington South P.U.D. and dedication has already been given. Commission
member Fedde moved, Kubik seconded, to recommend a trailway on Wilderness Run
Road and a short trailway on Summerfield Lane, north to the future Highline
Trail. All voted in favor.
D. Art Perri - Lot Split
The lot split is located at Oak Chase Road and Oak Chase Way. On a motion by
Thurston, seconded by Masin, the Commission recommended to accept a cash
dedication. The motion carried.
E. Eagan Center First Addition - James Curry
The proposal is part of the Lexington South P.U.D. commercial area. The
Planning Commission approved the project, but. noted that the landscape plan
meets- minimal criteria. Parks & Recreation Commission members did not like
the vast amount of impervious surface. Ken Vraa noted the Lexington South
P.U.D. parks dedication agreement calls for a cash dedication per acre.
Commission member Alt moved, Kubik seconded, to recommend cashdedication
consistent with the City's agreement, trailway on Patrick Drive and on
Lexington Avenue, and that landscape guidelines as approved earlier in 1985 be
imposed on this development. All voted in favor.
F & G. Galaxie Court & Lind Addition
Both proposals are for mini-storage. Galaxie Court was continued by the
Planning, Commission upon request of the applicant. The developer was told to
hold a 'neighborhood meeting with nearby residents. The Planning Commission
recommended denial of the Lind proposal and the Council did vote to deny.
There will be another mini-storage proposal on next month's agenda. No action
was taken pending Planning Commission action.
OLD BUSINESS
B. Federal Land Company - Rezoning Of 20.6 Acres
This is the proposal on Cliff near Rahn which the Commission discussed in
March. At that time the Commission stated it preferred more compatible uses
for the lots adjacent to Rahn Park. Staff has prepared a report included in
the packet concerning the proposed rezoning. Federal Land Company personnel
are to attend a meeting with City staff on Friday, April 5, to discuss
feasible uses. Chairman Martin said he preferred to see a proposed plan
before taking any action. He continued by saying the proposed development
must be compatible. The item was deferred until a plan is submitted.
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C. Parkland - School District 196 Purchase
Parks & Recreation Director Vraa gave the Commission an update on the possible
purchase of land for an elementary school by District 196 in Park Service
Section 14. The district is considering the same site and parcel that the
City has proposed as a park. The district intends to buy 15 acres while the
owner wants to sell 35 acres. Director Vraa said there might be the
possibility of a joint purchase by the City and school district of 25-30
acres. Director Vraa will discuss planning strategies with the school
district once they make a firm commitment to purchase this parcel. There was
general discussion and agreement that staff should communicate with the school
district.
NEW BUSINESS
A. Park Naming - Schwanz Lake Park
Park Intern, Scott Morgan, had researched the Schwanz Lake area and submitted
a report which was part of the packet. Scott reviewed possible alternatives
for park names including Schwanz Lake Park, Trapp or Trapp Farm Park, or a
combination of Schwanz Lake and Trapp Farm Park. General discussion of the
history, significance of land ownership and other factors ensu-ed. Member
Fedde felt the park should carry the same name as the lake. Masin indicated
that neither name was that significant and suggested a new name be found.
Chairman Martin moved, Kubik seconded, to recommend the name "Trapp Farm Park"
and retain the lake name of "Schwanz Lake."" The reasons for the
recommendation include the fact the majority of the park land was part of the
Trapp Farm property. There are parks with similar names to Schwanz in nearby
communities and there is precedence for naming the park after a resident, e.g.
Rahn Park. The motion carried with Masin opposed and Fedde abstaining.
Commission member Alt suggested the Council be given the Schwanz Lake/Trapp
Farm report.Masin noted she preferred a different name altogether.
B. Skating/Winter Program Report
Parks & Recreation Director Vraa made a few comments in addition to his and
the recreation supervisor's report which was included in the packet. He noted
that some warming houses are in bad condition and both a short term and long
term solution should be found. He stated he did not have a recommendation at
this time. Chairman Martin suggested that a replacement schedule be put
together with two houses scheduled per year. Perhaps portable rinks and
warming houses could be used for the lesser used sites. After some
discussion, it was decided to refer the matter to the Special Issues Committee
which will meet at 6:15 P.M. prior to the April 18th meeting. The Commission
commended the Recreation Supervisor on the winter programs. They were well
received by the community and provided a positive experience for the
residents.
It was also decided that the Recreation Committee will meet with Dorothy to
discuss the summer recreation program. That meeting is scheduled for 6:15 on
April`24th prior to the joint Park Commission's meeting.
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C. Cross-Country Ski Report/Grooming Equipment
As part of the winter report, Director Vraa and Intern Morgan presented a
report on cross-country ski maintenance. At the present time, Eagan has no
grooming equipment. The City was able to contract with Lakeville this past
year when Eagan's snowmobile was damaged. However, that arrangement was for a
short term and the City must decide whether to purchase equipment or contract
with an outside agency. There was some discussion regarding the use of the
Minnesota Zoo equipment or buying-equipment and renting it to the zoo. Scott
Morgan distributed material on equipment which ranged in price from $7,200 for
a used bombey to over $40,000 for larger pieces. The City could consider a
joint purchase with.Apple Valley. Director Vraa will discuss these options
with Apple Valley and Minnesota Zoo personnel and bring a report back to the
Commission.
D. L.A.W.C.O.N. Grant Application - FY 1986
Director Vraa said that Blackhawk Park meets much of the criteria for a
successful grant application. The one factor which could adversely affect the
application is the lack of a planned access to the park. He has had
discussion with a representative of the owner to the south and there is no
interest in selling or deeding any road access now or in the foreseeable
future. Director Vraa felt that some weight might be given it-the Council
were to make a commitment stating there will be a southerly access to
Blackhawk Park.
Director Vraa said the Commission should be prepared to provide state and
federal matching funds from the Park Site Acquisition and Development Fund.
He also said it would be necessary to have an appraiser develop preliminary
cost estimates for acquisition.
After some discussion, it was decided that Blackhawk Park was the logical
choice for a L.A.W.C.O.N. grant application. On a motion by Thurston,
seconded by Fedde, it was recommended to make grant application for Blackhawk
Park and request that the Council pass a resolution stating a southerly access
to the park will be provided. All voted in favor.
E. 1985-89 C.I.P.
Director Vraa stated that staff was developing a five year Capital Improvement
Program. He stated that if the Commission had concerns to please express them
to the staff so they may be considered. He continued by saying a draft of the
C.I.P. may be available by the April 18th meeting.
PARK IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
A. Building Design/Architectural Selection Process
Parks & Recreation Director Vraa outlined a possible selection process for the
Commission. He suggested that staff review interested architectural firms and
screen three to four finalists. A committee could then review the finalists.
The committee might be comprised of Council, Commission and staff. The
Director noted that time is short if a structure is to be constructed at Trapp
Farm/Schwanz Lake Park this year. Commission members stated they want to move
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quickly, but wanted to take plenty of time in reviewing building alternatives.
By consensus, the Commission decided to start with a fall goal in mind, but if
the process lags, then the construction can wait until spring. Commission
members felt that the structure in Schwanz Lake/Trapp Farm Park will be the
cornerstone to Eagan parks and it should be the best design/construction
possible.
Chairman Martin moved, Fedde seconded, to recommend to the City Council to
proceed with architect selection for park shelter buildings under the
proposal prepared by staff. All voted in favor.
B. Athletic Site Acquisition Discussion, Information
Staff presented several sketch plans of ball field/soccer field configurations
for the athletic site to assist in the evaluation of the site. Commission
member Kubik said he preferred a more intense use of the site as the need is
so acute. He opted for four ball fields, two to three soccer fields,
restrooms, parking lots and a few picnic tables. It appears that this site
can meet this need. Carolyn Thurston suggested the City contact MnDot
regarding access from Dodd Road including right/left turn lanes.
Commission member Fedde moved, Ketcham seconded, the recommendation to. have an
appraisal made of the site. The motion carried.
C. Update And Status Report
Stephen Sullivan reported that lights at Northview Park will be in by April 15
and operative by May 1. Play equipment is scheduled for Highview, Ridgecliff
and Cinnamon Ridge Parks this spring. Proposals for four parks will be ready
next week. Some of the better water proposals for Schwarz Lake will be shown
at the April 18 meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS & REPORTS
A. Park System Plan
Parks & Recreation Director Vraa stated the plan was not ready for the April 4
meeting.
B. Northview Lights
As Stephen Sullivan stated, the lights should be ready for use on May 1. The
first league game is scheduled for May 7. Director Vraa suggested a "lights
on" ceremony might be appropriate. Because May 7 is a Council meeting night,
he suggested the Commission schedule a ceremony for May 9 about 8:00 P.M. The
Mayor, Council, Press and interested ball players could be invited. The Parks
Commission liked the idea and asked Ken to proceed with the planning.
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C. April 23 Joint Community Park Commission Meeting
This meeting will be held at the Eagan City Hall starting promptly at 7:00
P.M. Representatives from Apple Valley, Rosemount, Burnsville, Lakeville,
Department of Natural Resources, Met. Council Parks & Open Space Committee,
Hennepin County Park System, Minnesota Wildlife and the Dakota County Parks
System will be present.
D. Eagan Celebration Committee -
Sandy Masin gave a report of the Eagan Celebration Committee. Most
festivities are scheduled for July 6 - a turkey roast, music by the "Ecletics"
and fireworks. A logo contest is underway to commemorate the 125th birthday.
It is hoped the History of Eagan will also be ready to sell on the sixth.
Sandy announced that there will be another time of celebration in the fall.
E. Four Oaks Condominiums
In 1981, the Rosewood Corporation contractually agreed to the placement of a
tot lot in Four Oaks. They are now saying that the residents prefer a. picnic
or open space area because there are not many children in the complex.
Rosewood Corporation wants the letter of credit reduced by the $5,000 tot lot
required amount. Chairman Martin felt that more information was needed. He
would like to hear from the Homeowners Association as to how many and what
percent of the total number of residents want an open area. He thinks the
homeowners should review their options and come to a Parks & Recreation
Commission meeting with their recommendations. The item was deferred until
more information is available.
F. Kehne House
Director Vraa announced that bids were approved for roofing the house and that
it should be ready for occupancy in May or June.
ADJOURNMENT
Commission member Masin moved, Fedde seconded, that the meeting be adjourned.
Time of adjournment was 11:10 P.M.
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