06/06/1985 - Advisory Parks & Recreation Commission
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE
ADVISORY PARKS & RECREATON COMMISSION
EAGAN MINNESOTA
JUNE 6, 1985
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Martin at 7:10 P.M. Commission
members present were: Martin, Masin, Alt, Fedde, Bertz, Ketcham, Thurston,
Carroll and Caponi. George Kubik had notified the Commission he would be
unable to attend. Staff present were: Parks & Recreation Director, Ken Vraa;
Landscape Architect, Steve Sullivan; Assistant Planner, Greg Ingraham; Parks
Intern, Scott Morgan and Administrative Assistant, Liz Witt.
AGENDA
Chairman Martin added discussion of a second June meeting to Other Business.
Richard Carroll moved, Caponi seconded, the approval of the agenda as amended.
The motion carried.
MINUTES OF MAY 2, 1985
Mike Fedde moved, Masin seconded, the minutes of May 2 be approved as
presented. All voted in favor.
DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. Lexington Place South - 2nd Addition
Assistant Planner Greg Ingraham, informed the Commission that the Council and
the Planning Commission recommended denial of the proposal as presented. The
developers were told to reconfigure the plat and bring it back to the Council.
Greg said there may be construction in the two outlots but just what it will
be is not known as yet.
After further discussion, Commission member Caponi moved, seconded by
Thurston, the following: The Parks & Recreation Commission supported the
Council's rejection of the proposal as presented. The Commission still
prefers that the outlots be designated open space with no additional lots.
However, the Commission is supportive of redrawing the lot lines through the
outlots. If the Council decides that additional lots may be created, then the
Commission requests that the Council refer the proposal back to the Commission
for further consideration. All voted in favor.
B. Eagles Nest Village
Eagles Nest is a preliminary plat for 14 townhouses, half of which would be
handicap accessible. The units would be owner-occupied. The Planning
Commission recommended approval. Chairman Martin moved, Fedde seconded, the
recommendation for cash dedication for the units and a blacktop trail along
Rahn Road. The motion carried.
C. Sunset 8th Addition
This item is essentially a lot split with two additional lots being created.
The Planning Commission has given approval. Mike Fedde moved, Carroll
seconded the recommendation to accept cash dedication. All voted in favor.
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D. O'Neil Center - R.J. O'Neil
Planner Ingraham provided background on the proposed O'Neil zoning request.
He went on to say the proposal calls for a rezoning of 100 acres from A to a
P.U.D. on a site between Lexington and 35E and north of Yankee Doodle Road.
There would be multiple housing, office warehouse and roadside business in the
plat. There are also several ponding areas to be created. After some initial
discussion, Director of Parks & Recreation Vraa reviewed the issues before the
Advisory Commission based on three basic alternatives.
Director Vraa noted there is a possibility for 240 apartment units, and from
nearby parcels there is a possibility for 700 additional units. That means
there would be almost 1000 units. A park may be needed to serve them.
However, the plat could be entirely commercial in which case a park would not
be needed. Another possibility would be the purchase of the Opus property for
an athletic site, utilizing the south portion for a neighborhood park to serve
the O'Neil property and existing R-3 zoning.
Greg Ingraham said the Planning Commission had recommended denial of the
proposal. He thought O'Neil would probably sell off the parcels and not act
as a developer.
Richard Carroll said the Commission would inform the Council that the entire
rezoning does present potential problems for the City Park system and need for
a close look. Chairman Martin commented that a plan was needed for the area.
Director Vraa stated that the current R3 and R4 zoning and Comprehensive Guide
Plan calls for a neighborhood-size park, but, if zoning changes, a park may
not be needed. After discussion, Chairman Martin requested staff to prepare a
study of the area and plan for a potential park which would be necessary if
the land is residentially developed. He went on to say the consensus of the
Commission is for this mini-study to help the Commission understand the issues
better.
E. Development Update
Assistant Planner Ingrahamn informed the Commission of development proposals
for June. R.L. Johnson is proposing a warehouse on the Comserv corner. The
Woodhaven proposal, which had been presented to the Commission previously, now
calls for townhouses and duplexes. A 26-acre site south of the Western Court
Facility is being proposed for duplexes and a church. Easter Lutheran Church
plans a substantial addition to the church.
NEW BUSINESS
A. Athletic Field Lighting Policy
Director Vraa provided a handout which addressed a lighting usage policy for
the benefit of league operation and those residents who will abut the property
in the future. He noted that some communities have a "lights out" at 11:00
p.m. with no deviations. Other cities are more flexible and allow games to be
completed under certain conditions. He suggested the Commission consider an
11:00 p.m. event cut off, with no new inning beginning after this time. This
provides for some flexibility. He also suggested that in drawing up
schedules, no game or event be scheduled to begin after 9:45 p.m. This
starting time would generally assure completion of a game by 11:00 p.m. The
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Commission discussed the need for a policy and generally agreed with Director
Vraa. He was directed to write up the recommended option as a formal policy
and bring it back to the Commission.
PARKS DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM
A. Status Report: Parks Project
Landscape Architect Steve Sullivan summarized progress on the parks. He said
the tennis courts were complete, play equipment was in at Highview Park and
the next play structure is scheduled for Ridgecliff Park. The lights at
Northview Park are scheduled to be checked for intensity, drop off and related
functions., The play perimeter is soon to be constructed at Peridot Path Park.
Staff has been closely monitoring Cinnamon Park as Zachman developers have not
performed their job as agreed upon. The trail is to be started and some
grading is to take place this week.
Steve noted that Rahn Park is at the finished grade and the site has been
seeded. He said the Schwanz Lake, Walnut Hill and Goat Hill sites have been
cleared and grubbed. Almost all of the erosion control with siltration fabric
is in place. Top soil is being salvaged now. About seven feet of top soil
was found in the pond and it is being mined out now. The pond will be 3 - 4
ft. deeper once the top soil is removed. Chariman Martin cautioned the staff
to closely monitor the work to assure that erosion control is observed.
B. Architect Selection
Director Vraa said Carolyn Thurston, Richard Carroll, Tony Caponi and Ted
Wachter interviewed several architects recently. The Interview Committee
recommended the firm of Schwarz-Weber Architects as their choice, with the
Council giving their approval at the June 4, 1985, meeting. Director Vraa
plans to meet with the firm's representatives next week to work out a
contract. The architects would like to meet with the Commission, and Director
Vraa will try to set up a meeting date. He suggested the possibility of a
second June meeting and will advise Commission members if that will be
agreeble to the architects.
C. Athletic Site Purchase - Update
Director Vraa said the owners of the Cliff/Highway 3 potential athletic site
are asking $10,000 an acre, plus assessments, which calculates out to near
$16,000 per useable acre. The total asking price is about $150,000 over the
City's estimated value. He said that staff is continuing to look at other
possible sites. Commission discussion focused on the desirability to have one
large site rather than two smaller ones. Members generally agreed that
negotiations should continue on the Cliff/Highway 3 site, but that staff
should also consider new possibilities. It was suggested that land sale
information sheets of recent sales be given to the owners and perhaps a modest
increase in the offer price could be considered. These suggestions comprised
a directive for Director Vraa. No motion was made.
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OTHER
A. Set July Meeting Date
Because the first Thursday in July falls on the 4th, the July meeting will be
July 11. B. Maintenance Report
Director Vraa included a maintenance update with the packet. He noted that
much of parks crew time, has been taking up with mowing. The athletic fields
have been prepared including dragging and striping. Maintenance activities
are behind schedule this spring due to the heavy crush of things which have to
be done this time of year.
C. Kehne House
Director Vraa said the Kehne House is now being rented to a young couple who
have worked very hard to clean the building. He said the husband is a
carpenter who will perform repair work in lieu of rent reduction.
D. July 4 Celebration Committee
Commission member Masin reported that the parade will have the 125th birthday
theme. She said there will be a booth selling shirts, caps and other
mementos. There will also be a turkey roast and volunteers are needed for
that activity. The roast will be Saturday, July 6. Ticket sellers are also
needed and she had a sign up sheet for those members interested. She noted
there will be fireworks on the 4th and on the 6th with the "Eclectics" to
perform on Saturday night.
E. Next June Meeting - If Needed
If the architects are ready, the Commission will schedule a second June
meeting - June 27 - to discuss building ideas. If the meeting is held, it
will be preceded by a tour of park sites under construction.
ADJOURNMENT
Sandy Masin moved, Ketcham seconded, the meeting be adjourned. Time of
adjournment was 9:45.
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