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08/15/1985 - Advisory Parks & Recreation Commission MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE ADVISORY PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION EAGAN MINNESOTA AUGUST 15, 1985 The meeting was called to order by Chairman Martin at 7:05 P.M. Commission members present were: Ketcham, Fedde, Kubik, Martin, Alt, Carroll and Caponi. Commission members Thurston, Bertz and Masin had notified the Commission they would be unable to attend. Staff members present were: Parks & Recreation Director, Ken Vraa; Landscape Architect/Parks Planner, Steve Sullivan; Administrative Assistant, Liz Witt; and Parks Intern, Scott Morgan. AGENDA Parks and Recreation Director Vraa had some new information he wished to present in Item Fl., Park Development, Athletic site. Commission member Fedde moved, Ketcham seconded to approve the agenda as amended. MINUTES OF JULY 11, 1985 On a motion by Alt, seconded by Fedde, the minutes were approved as presented. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. Spande 7th Addition - Roy Spande The proposal is a preliminary plat to create four single family lots near Highview Avenue and Highway 13. The Planning Commission approved and the Commission could require cash but no trail dedication. Commission member Fedde moved, Kubik seconded to recommend cash dedication for three lots. The motion carried. B. Wedgewood 2nd Addition - Brad Swenson The site was previously zoned multi-family but now is being proposed for 22 single family lots. The parcel is part of the Lexington South P.U.D. which has fulfilled its park dedication requirements. It was suggested the Commission seek trail dedication along the north side of Wilderness Run. Commission member Carroll moved, Caponi seconded to recommend that a trailway be required, built to City specifications. All voted in favor. C. Suncliff 3rd Addition The parcel of 13.5 acres is part of Eagan Hills West P.U.D. The developers have already given some parkland and appear to be current with park dedication. There are already trails on County Road 30 and Blackhawk so no trail dedication is needed. Chairman Martin made a motion, seconded by Alt to bring the park dedication up to date at the time of the annual planned development review. The motion carried. Adv. Parks & Rec. Comm. August 15, 1985 D. LeMay Lake Hills - Al Kempf A new developer for this site now proposes 40 dwelling units along Pilot Knob Road. There will be a mix of units but the total is fewer than the last proposal. Director Vraa suggested cash dedication be considered as well as trail construction along Lone Oak Road and Tower View Road. Commission member Carroll moved, Fedde seconded to recommend cash dedication, trailways along the south side of Lone Oak Road and Tower View Road. Commission member Carroll moved, Fedde seconded to recommend cash dedication, trailways along the south side of Lone Oak Road and the north side of Tower View Road, that care is taken to observe setback requirements from the lake, and to maintain lake quality by observing erosion control measures. All voted in favor. E. Wyndham Corporation - Trammel Crow The developer proposes a commercial planned development with Phase I to be a hotel. The rest of the parcel will be outlot. Director Vraa noted that the plans indicate the developer has taken a great deal of care with his landscape plans and made particular efforts to preserve two wooded areas. Commission member Kubik made a motion, seconded by Fedde, to recommend cash dedication at the commercial-industrial rate and to commend the developer for proposed landscaping plans. However,. the landscape policy of the City should be applied to this proposal to insure that it meets requirements. The motion carried. OLD BUSINESS A. Rahn Ridge Parks & Recreation Director Vraa noted there has been a roadway change through the development. He suggests the Commission recommend a cash dedication for the proposed s,gmmercial lots, along with the Commission preview recommendation. The Commission is already on record to accept the parkland dedication, a trail on Rahn Road through Fieldcrest Drive, to recommend relocation of storm sewer inlets into the pond and that grading be reviewed so that it complements park planning. A 20' trail was also to be provided between lots 1 and 6. Commission member Alt moved, seconded by Carroll, the recommendation to require a trailway along the new road alignment. In addition to the previous action - of the ommission, the members went on record to recommend commercial- industrial cash dedication if the three parcels are developed as commercial plats. All voted in favor. NEW BUSINESS A. Pleasure Skating Rink - Lexington Park Director Vraa commented that the pleasure skating section of Lexington Park is poorly attended. He asked Commission discussion regarding continuing the rink operation vs. closing it down. He said it takes up to 20 hours to prepare a base of ice for the rink. Skaters prefer to use the hockey rink because the Adv. Parks & Rec. Comm. August 15, 1985 ice is better, it is ready sooner and the lighting is better. Several suggestions were offered such as to close for a year and monitor comments to such action; add more lights and regrade so the hockey and pleasure rinks are at the same level. Members were concerned with costs to take these actions. They were also interested in current census data, which is just being gathered, numbers and age groups. On a motion by Chairman Martin, seconded by Carroll, Staff was directed to review grading costs, light costs and new demographic data and report back to the Commission at the February meeting. The rink will be open for skating this winter. The motion carried. PARK DEVELOPMENT A. Athletic Site Director Vraa presented another potential site for the Commission to review. He said there is a possibility of 33 acres currently owned by the Ohmann family which might be acquired for an athletic site.. The site is at the SE corner of Pilot Knob and Cliff Road, adjacent to the golf course. He thought a preliminary cost figure would be $12,500 per acre. He did not think much grading would be necessary and the soils are good. Director Vraa also stated that the Petersons are holding firm on their asking price for the Cliff Road/Highway 3 site. Commission members discussed the three sites. While most members were in favor of the location, the Ohmann parcel at 33 acres was considered too small to be flexible enough to serve the City's future needs. It was the consensus of the group to remove the Peterson parcel from consideration and focus interest primarily on the Barr site and the Ohmann site. Commission member Caponi said he looked at the Barr site and no longer had objections. He did think it would be safer to have the road access go under the railroad tracks. It was noted that trains use the tracks on an average of three times per day. Director Vraa said it would be possible to construct an internal road and have entrance on Cliff and exit unto Highway 3. There was discussion on the possibility of widening that road and having parking on both outside lanes in lieu of a parking lot. The Commission consensus was to obtain the Ohmann site if a larger parcel could be put together. Staff is asked to determine if a larger, 40 acre parcel, might be available. Members wanted all associated costs for the Barr site. Costs would include an under pass, a turn lane, internal road wide enough to accommodate car parking and grading. All information should be brought to the first September meeting for a decision and recommendation to the Council for their second September meeting. B. Park Shelter Building No meetings have been held with Schwartz-Weber during the past two weeks. The planners will make a presentation at the Commission's first September meeting. 3 Adv. Parks & Rec. Comm. August 15, 1985 OTHER A. Lexington Place South - U.S. Homes Corporation Director Vraa noted that the City Council accepted the Parks & Recreation Commission recommendation to deny the total platting of the outlots. Outlot C will remain open space and two lots have been removed from Outlot A. Mark Parranto has since acquired the property and stated he will maintain the parcel and pay the taxes. Director Vraa said that the PD agreement calls for open space. B. Storm Water Run-Off On Trapp Farm Park Chairman Martin again voiced concern about the run-off from Northview Meadows. Director Vraa said the Engineering Department and the developers are working to resolve the problem. Chairman Martin requested that Public Works Director Colbert come to the September meeting to discuss erosion control. C. Tour Of New Play Facilities Director Vraa announced that on Sunday, September 22, there will be a tour offered to Eagan residents of all the new play equipment installed. He asked that Commission members volunteer to host each of the six locations along with a staff member. Commission members were enthusiastic about the tour. D. Annual Picnic The Commission agreed to hold the picnic at Blackhawk Park on Friday, Spetember 6. Tom Ketcham will be in charge of the food and a donation of $2.50 per person attending is requested. If available, the chuckwagon will be utilized. ADJOURIBUM On a motion by Caponi, seconded by Fedde, the meeting was adjourned. Time of adjournment was 8:50. Dated dvisory Parks & Recreation Secre ry £ 4