06/04/1987 - Advisory Parks & Recreation Commission
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ADVISORY PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
Eagan, Minnesota
June 4, 1987
A regular meeting of the Advisory Parks and Recreation Commission
was called to order by Chairman Martin at 7:00 p.m. Members present were Alt,
Martin, Bertz, Thurston, Caponi, Carroll and Kubik. Members Masin, Sames and
Porter had indicated they would be unavailable for the meeting. Staff present
were the Director of Parks and Recreation Ken Vraa and Steve Sullivan,
Landscape Architect/Parks Planner.
AGENDA
A motion by Bertz, seconded by Kubik, with all members voting in
favor, the agenda was approved.
MINUTES OF MAY 7, 1987
Mr. Kubik noted that on page two, his late arrival was due to
his completion of school. On page six, we noted that Sandy Bertz arrived at
8:00 o'clock p.m. With no other corrections, a motion by Thurston, seconded
by Dick Carroll, with all voting in favor, the minutes of the May 7, 1987
Commission meeting were approved as amended.
CONSENT AGENDA
The following consent agenda item was presented for approval, on a
motion by Kubik, seconded by Bertz, with all members in favor, the Commission
approved recommendations to the City Council the following item:
1. Cray Addition--That a cash dedication be requirement of this plat
consistent with the City's commercial/industrial property.
DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
Stuart 2nd Addition--Parks Planner Steve Sullivan reviewed the
proposed preliminary plat for Stuart 2nd Addition. Director of Parks and
Recreation Ken Vraa reviewed his two-page memorandum and the letter from
Stuart Corporation from Mr. Gerald L. Sovel, Vice President, questioning a
waiver of parks dedication fees was raised. Mr. Vraa reviewed the proposed
improvements to be made by Stuart Corporation of the ponding area. This would
provide for trails, benches, and plant material. Mr. Sullivan provided an
analysis of the area at the request of the Advisory Commission. Member Caponi
questioned what else the property could be used for, being that it was his
opinion that the only benefit was for the developer. Members questioned the
value of the area for parks purposes and the staff's opinion in the use of the
trail system and the ponding area. Commission member Carroll noted that the
topography of this site, including the steep slopes, and the fact that the
proposed trail would be under water at time of high water elevation. It was
commented that if the parcel was not dedicated, why it would be of any value
to the City. There were several other questions presented to the Commission
relating to the types of recreational facilities the developer would be
providing including a proposed swimming pool. Member Kubik stated he did not
feel that this was a significant and sufficient amenity to suggest a
reduction in the parks cash contribution. After a brief discussion, on a
motion by Kubik, seconded by Thurston, it was a recommendation of the Advisory
r Parks and Recreation Commission that 1) a cash dedication requirement be made,
2) that there be no credit provided, and 3) that a trail on Lexington Avenue
be a condition to plat approval.
The Welsh Addition--Planner Jim Sturm noted that this preliminary
plat had been withdrawn and that the developer was pursuing another
alternative site. Director of Parks and Recreation Vraa asked the Commission
to review the concept and provide staff in the City with direction. It was
noted that the preliminary plat was for a private school. The school is a
profit organization and would be operating the school for grades K through 6.
In addition to the school functions, which were proposed to be operative year-
round, they would provide both "pre" and "post" daycare activities. Staff
responded to.several questions concerning the proposed development and member
Thurston stated that she felt they are a profit organization and as much
responsible for parks dedication as any commercial development. It is a
concensus of the opinion of the Advisory Commission that if the developer does
decide on a site in Eagan for this addition, they should be informed that a
cash dedication requirement for commercial /industrial property will be
required.
OLD BUSINESS
Four Oaks Townhomes--Director of Parks and Recreation reviewed the
history of the request from Four Oaks Townhomes Association and the
elimination of a tot-lot requirement. Director Vraa stated this item had
appeared on the Advisory Commission agenda approximately one year ago and the
direction of the Commission was to have the owners surveyed and make such a
request. Director Vraa stated that he had received over 50 letters of
approximately 80 owners indicating they would prefer not to have a tot-lot and
in favor of the existing green space and open area. Representatives of the
association in the audience stated there are approximately 6 or 7 children
within the association of which at least half are over the age of 15. On a
motion by Carroll, seconded by Martin, with all members voting in favor, the
requirement of a tot-lot for installation was deleted from the requirements
for the Four Oaks Townhomes.
COMMUNITY CENTER STUDY
Director of Parks and $ecreation Ken Vraa reported that the
Community Center Study flow chart provides for a summary of data to this time.
This report had been drafted and reviewed by members of the Advisory
Commission and staff. A second draft would be prepared for the Commission's
reviewal at the next meeting. Director Vraa noted that there continues to be
an interest in a Community Center particularly among new residents and those
interested in swimming. Director Vraa also suggested that it may be
appropriate to conduct a random survey by a professional firm to determine the
interest levels-within the community. He stated he would be reviewing such a
proposal for recommendation at a later date.
DEPARTMENT OBJECTIVES
Director of Parks and Recreation Ken Vraa stated that staff has been
working on its 1987 goals,-and objectives and. appreciated the input of the
Advisory Commission members. He noted that the staff had originally compiled
a list of approximately 65 statements of goals and objectives which has
consequently been reduced. Commission member Caponi inquired as to if he
would be able to see all of the originals as well as those staff is now
recommending. The Director continued, stating that the original list had been
reduced to a smaller number. Staff was classifying the object-i-ves to
categories such as recreation, parks and parks planning. All of these would
be given to the Commission. Sandy Bertz questioned if-staff would mail a copy
to the Commission to review prior to the meeting date in order to help
dyetermine-priorit.iesr
NEW BUSINESS _
Wilmus Park/Park Service Section No. 28--Director of Parks and
Recreation Ken Vraa indicated that staff has received several calls from
residents in this area. A letter was enclosed in the packet from a resident
who is also inquiring as to the status of the park. Director Vraa stated that
park area has been determined by previous developers agreement associated with
the Mallard Park Addition but the owner, Mr. Wilmus, would set the time frame
for the remainder of the parks dedication with development. The City does not
have a PUD agreement nor has the park been specifically identified. Mr. Vraa
noted that a suggestion had been made for a neighborhood meeting to inform
residents of the status of the parks planning. Mr. Kubik recommended that an
informational letter be sent to residents in the park service district. He
noted-
oted that the Commission and staff is very busy at this time. Commission
member Carroll agreed stating that the letter would be a good idea and would
at least inform the residents of the City's planning efforts. A motion by
Kubik, seconded by Carroll, with all members voting in favor, staff was
directed to send an informational letter to residents in the proposed park
area indicating the City's planning efforts.
Water Quality Management Plan--Director of Parks and Recreation Ken
Vraa reviewed a memorandum from Tom Colbert, Director of Public Works,
regarding the City's ad hoc committee on a Water Quality Management Plan. He
stated Mr. Colbert is seeking an appointment from the Commission to serve as
a member of the ad hoc committee. Various members stated they would have an
interest in being appointed to the committee. It was noted that Mr. Sames had
previously expressed an interest-but was unable to be at the Commission
meeting so it was suggested that staff contact M-r.. Sames first to see if he
was still interested in serving. -If Mr. Sames is unable to be a member of the
committee, Sandy Masin or Roger Martin would be interested in filling this
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PARKS DEVELOPMENT
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Parks Construction Contract 87-1--Director of Parks and Recreation
Ken Vraa reported on the bids received for the Contract 87-1, Parks
Construction. He stated that Mr. Sullivan's estimate was within $15,000 of
the actual bid price of $546,000. It was stated that a preconstruction
conference would:be~held -within, the next several weeks and it is expected that
the contractor will begin in late June.
Financial Review--Director= of, Parks and Reerea-tion re.vlewed his
memorandum contained within the packet on pages 37 and 38, noting that the
numbers were unaudited. He stated that this should provide the Commission
with just*a brief updating on the current status of expenditures and
encumbered funds for the number of work projects. Director stated that
because of the number of projects ongoing and yet proposed for this year, he
was unable to provide the Commission with a detailed set of numbers because of
the time commitment- and the necessity of re-estimating work yet :to come. -He
stated it is his belief that the projects were very much on target with
overages in some project areas compensated by favorable bids in others.
It was noted that the Director would provide another update with the
conclusion of the summer projects.
OTHER BUSINESS & REPORTS
There are a number of items under the Other Business and Reports
Agenda, including the Trapp Farm Park Grand Opening, and the Community Theatre
Group now forming within the City with the assistance of the Parks and
Recreation staff. Director Vraa. stated that the first meeting of the
Community--Theatre Group-was very positive with approximately 20 people in
attendance.
Staff is beginning the 1988 budget preparation process and any input
from the Advisory Commission would be appropriate at this time or over the
next several weeks.
Director also noted that the ground breaking for the new elementary
school, entitled- Woodland--fslementapy-School, would be held on Thursday, June
18, 1987. He stated Advisory Commission members would be receiving
Invitations to this ground breaking ceremony.
ADJOURNMENT
There will- be no further business of the Advisory Commission, on a
motion by Alt, seconded by Bertz, with all members voting in favor, the
Regular Advisory Commission meeting of June 4th was adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
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