08/04/1988 - Advisory Parks & Recreation Commission
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF
THE ADVISORY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
AUGUST 4, 1988
A regular meeting of the Advisory Parks and Recreation Commission was
called to order at 7:50 P.M. on Thursday, August 4, 1988 with the following
Commission Members present: Michele Swanson, Wayne Sames, Sandy Masin, JoAnne
Alt and Bob Porter. Staff present included Director of Parks and Recreation,
Ken Vraa; Landscape Architect/Parks Planner, Steve Sullivan; Parks
Superintendent, John VonDeLinde; Recreation Supervisor, Dorothy Peterson;
Recreation Supervisor, Paula Nowariak; Parks Secretary, Cherryl Mesko;
Recreation Intern, Bonnie Blood and Parks Intern, Mel Bailey. Commission
Members not present included Dick Carroll and George Kubik.
AGENDA
Wayne Sames moved, JoAnne Alt seconded with all members voting in favor
to accept the agenda as presented.
MINUTES FROM JULY 7, 1988 MEETING
JoAnne Alt moved, Bob Porter seconded with all members voting in favor
to accept the minutes of the July 7, 1988 meeting as presented.
MINUTES FROM MAY 26, 1988 JOINT MEETING
Michele Swanson moved, Wayne Sames seconded with all members voting in
favor to accept the minutes of the May 26, 1988 Joint Meeting as presented.
AWARDS FOR 10 YEARS OF SERVICE
Recreation Supervisor Dorothy Peterson recapped for the Commission the
past 10 years of Kristy Belew's involvement with the Eagan Parks Department.
She began at age 15 working first at Woodhaven Park as an assistant and then
moved on to Carnelian as a leader. Her work continued to encompass more
Summer in the Park locations and the Tiny Tots program. Kristy is currently a
teacher at Deerwood Elementary School and continues to be a welcomed and vital
addition to the Parks Department summer staff. Sandy Masin, presented Kristy
Belew with a plaque expressing the Park and Recreation Department's
appreciation for her 10 years of dedication to the children of Eagan.
Prior to the beginning of the Commission meeting, Commission Member
JoAnne Alt presented a 10 year award to Kathleen Fletcher, again noting the
invaluable assistance she has been to the Eagan Parks Department for all those
years. Kathleen has played'a significant role in continuing the excellence in
programming that the City provides it's children.
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CONSENT AGENDA
The following consent agenda items were presented for approval. On a
motion by Wayne Sames, seconded by JoAnne Alt with all members voting in
favor, the Commission approved recommendation to the City Council of the
following items:
1. YOCUM OIL CO. - Conditional Use Permit. That this plat be subject
to a cash parkland dedication.
2. GALAXIE CLIFF PLAZA - That this plat be subject to a cash parkland
dedication and that a five (5) foot sidewalk be placed along the
west side.of Galaxie Avenue.
3. VINCENT J. KENNEDY - Waiver of Plat. That this plat be subject to
a cash parkland dedication.
4. WOODLANDS 2ND ADDITION - That this plat be subject to a cash
parkland dedication.
5. SUNCREST ADDITION - That this plat be subject to a cash parkland
dedication.
6. SENECA PLANT ADD. - That this plat be subject to a cash parkland
dedication.
As a note to the record, JoAnne Alt questioned the area shown in the
Galaxie Cliff Plaza drawings showing an area identified as park. Ken Vraa
noted that this was merely an open space area and not a park as identified by
the Parks and Recreation Department. JoAnne Alt expressed her concern that
the public may perceive this as a City park and felt this point needed to be
clarified. Director Vraa noted that he would get a clarification from the
developer on this issue.
HIGHVIEW PARK ADDITION
Parks Planner. Sullivan reviewed the proposed Highview Park Addition for
the Commission stating that the property currently had one home and the owner
wanted to subdivide the property into three single family lots.
The Advisory Planning Commission has denied the proposal concerned by
the proposed lot widths at the setback line which is not consistent with the
existing lots within the neighborhood. The issues that the Commission will
need to address are, should the preliminary plat providea trail: easement to
Highview Park and what are the parkland dedication requirements.
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Mr. Sullivan indicated that the distance to the Highview Park and lack
of a future north/south connection may warrant the need for a trail easement
through the proposed development. The placement of a 20 foot trail easement
between proposed lots #1 and #2 would provide a direct connection to Highview
Park from the northern residential area. With the implementation of this
trailway the furthest walking distance would be approximately 3/4 mile to the
park.
Wayne Sames noted that in the past the Commission has asked for an
access easement for larger developments but questioned if they had required
the same for a development this size. Director Vraa responded that this
specific request has not come before the Commission in the past. Sandy Masin
asked if the trail access was for safety reasons or more for convenience in
reaching the park. It was noted that the current access to the park was via
the streets in the neighborhood, that safety was not a specific issue but the
trail would shorten the distance to the park from the northern residential
area. Wayne Sames asked if the easement would negatively affect the proposed
lots. Director Vraa responded by stating that the lots were approximately
12,000 feet so the 20 foot access should not impact the lots negatively.
After further discussion, Bob Porter moved, Wayne Sames seconded with
all members voting in favor to have the developer provide a twenty (20) foot
trail easement between Lots #1 and #2 and that a cash parkland dedication be
required.
WESTCOTT SQUARE ADDITION
Steve Sullivan outlined for the Commission the proposed Westcott Square
Addition which requests the preliminary plat of seventy-one (71) townhomes on
9.83 acres currently zoned R-3. The proposed plat is located within
Neighborhood Park Service Area 14 which is serviced by Woodlands School/Park
located 3/4 mile from the proposed Westcott Square Addition.
The first issue for Commission review is to determine whether the
existing park service area adequately services the park user population. If
it is not adequate, Mr. Sullivan suggested that the Commission consider
alternatives such as providing a mini-park or requiring the developer to
provide on-site amenities to supplement the existing parkland. Mini-parks, by
definition, are provided only when a park need in an area cannot be fulfilled
in any other way. If the Commission determined, after review, that a mini-
park would be appropriate in this case, parkland acquisition would be
necessary. Mr. Sullivan noted that the Westcott Square Addition would provide
little opportunity for parkland acquisition being encompassed by streets.
Another-alternative for the Commission to consider would be-to have the
proposed multi-family developments provide on-site amenities to supplement the
existing park and to service the residents within the development. This
typically occurs in large, high density areas.
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The second issue for Commission review, would be what type of parkland
dedication would be required; land or cash.
Sandy Masin asked what the ratio is for people to park service area.
Steve Sullivan responded that it is approximately 5,000, and in some cases we
exceed that number. In this particular case the numbers would be projected at
approximately 6,400± if everything that is planned as multiple is built.
Michele Swanson asked if it was known how many 1 bedroom, 2 bedroom, etc. the
developer was proposing in this project. JoAnne Alt noted that there is no
open space shown and questioned why it wasn't since it should be a requirement
of the Land Use Ordinance. Steve Sullivan stated that some times the Land Use
Ordinance hasn't been strictly adhered to but it has been used in the past to
insure recreation areas. Member Masin asked if the open space can be imposed
on the development and if it was known when, or if, the 34 acre parcel to the
south of Westcott Square Addition would change from multi-family to single
family. Steve Sullivan explained that it is not known at this time when, or
if, this parcel will request a change from multi-family to single family; it
is currently zoned R-4.
Director Vraa noted to the Commission that they could suggest to the
Planning Commission that the developer provide recreation space/amenities. If
the City were to wait for the 34 acre parcel to be developed and then require
a parkland dedication it would only be looking at a maximum park area of 3+
acres which, as has been discovered in the past, would not be sufficient to
provide some of the recreational opportunities necessary for this area.
JoAnne Alt asked if the Commission would have an opportunity to review
this development proposal again before it was approved. Ken Vraa stated that
the Commission's recommendations could be passed on to the Advisory Planning
Commission on August 23rd and then come back to the Advisory Parks and
Recreation Commission for it's September 1st meeting. The Commission can then,
at that time, recommend a park dedication credit for providing usable
recreation facilities if it deems necessary.
Wayne Sames moved that the Commission recommend that -the developer
provide, at minimum, an open space within the development and the Advisory
Parks and Recreation Commission would consider a parkland dedication., credit
based on what amenities-the developer proposed to include. The motion further
stated that the developer should provide plans for -proposed recreational
opportunities within the development, that this development be reviewed by the
Advisory Planning Commission at it's August 23, 1988 meeting and then come
before the Advisory Parks and Recreation Commission at it's September 1st
meeting to consider a, possible - parkland dedication credit. The motion was
seconded by JoAnne Alt with all-members voting in favor.
Michele Swanson noted for the record that she --woul d l`i:ke, .staff to
determine how many-one bedroom and-.two bedroom homes are being planned in this
development.
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MOONEY LAKE/BERRY PATCH PARK
Director Vraa provided the Commission with a brief history of the Mooney
Lake/Berry Patch Park issues stating that in 1981 the trail was installed as
part of the development of Hilltop Estates. In 1982-86 the pond flooded
because of no controlled storm outlet. In July of 1986 the installation of the
lift station was determined to be necessary. When the project was completed,
the pump installed and the water level lowered, the number of trees killed
from the flooded waters was apparent. In December of 1987 staff inspected the
affected trees and cut as many as possible at that time. On June 24, 1988 a
meeting was held with the residents surrounding Mooney Lake to discuss the
condition of the park and pond area; specifically the lowered water level
exposing stumps from the trees that had been cut and the weeds that were
growing in the lake; a situation that was compounded because of the lack of
rainfall. The residents suggested that they would like to see the pond
elevation raised from the normal level of 859.4 to the flood level of 863 and
have the trail abandoned. A subsequent meeting was held with the residents in
July to look at alternatives as it relates to raising the water elevation.
Several options were suggested such as installing the trail in front of the
homes to continue the integrity of the trail link system, raising the trail
somewhat to try to to keep it above flood level, and perhaps install a dock at
one of the spur locations to access Mooney Lake. With the background
provided, Director Vraa introduced the spokesperson who would be representing
the neighbors surrounding Mooney Lake.
Carla Ingalls, who resides at 1305 Berry Ridge Road South, directly
adjacent,, to the park and lake, introduced herself as spokesperson for the
neighboring residents. She stated that there are 10 homeowners that overlook
Mooneye and those living in the Hilltop Estates area have enjoyed the
lake .for-many years. Most of the residents in the surrounding area had heard
that the` original developer had constructed a trail along Mooney Lake in 1981
bU-the majority of current homeowners have not been able to use the trail
se'it has been under water until just recently. Many of the homeowners did
noLT10w a 1rail existed. When the lift station was installed in the fall of
1.98-7~t. watery evel was pumped below the park trail exposing it for the first
time in= any -,ears. During the winter, the Park Department informed the
to iden hat tfiey would enter the park area and remove/clean out the trees
tt.w -pos after the water level changed. The residents viewed this as
v eve and were pleased to see it being handled. The spring and
summer o 19 8, owever, brought with it a terrible look for Mooney Lake.
Ms. Ingalls proceeded to explain that the residents had conferred with
outside authorities who noted that the only use for Mooney Lake was for
aesthetics and wildlife habitat. She noted that a representative of the DNR
had also stated that Mooney Lake was a dieing pond unless something was done
to preserve it. - The Public Works Department noted to the residents that in
raising .the .,water level, changes would need to be made in the storm sewer
drain system.''.Ms.. Ingalls noted, however, that the storm sewer situation was
not ,,an issue, The residents' perception of the situation is that the
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Parks Department, in order to save the trail link, is defeating the purpose of
having the trail adjacent to such a once beautiful natural resource by not
preserving that natural resource, i.e. Mooney Lake.
Further investigation, noted Ms. Ingalls, predicts that the next few
years will provide for a drought rather than above average rainfall, i.e. the
100 year flood. They feel that it doesn't make much sense to plan for a
"possible" 100 year flood when the indications are much stronger for a
drought. Ms. Ingalls further stated that this was truly an unfortunate
incident that had occurred and that the residents wanted very much to see it
resolved in a satisfactory manner. They are asking that the Parks Department
direct Public Works to proceed with the option of raising the elevation of
Mooney Lake to a level that will both correct the visual appearance of the
lake as well as increase the water quality.
Nancy Creighton, a resident from Chatterton Ponds addressed the
Commission by thanking them for taking the time to listen to the concerns of
the residents of both Hilltop Estates and Chatterton Ponds. She noted that
they were very appreciative of the opportunity to meet with the various
departments to help resolve this issue.
Director Ken Vraa responded to the residents attending the Commission
meeting noting that Tom Colbert, Director of Public Works was not able to be
on hand for this particular meeting nor was Tom Hedges, City Administrator.
Mr. Vraa introduced John Barton from Dakota County Soils who was present to
answer any questions the Commission or residents had regarding water quality.
Mr. Vraa stated he was concerned about the comment regarding the storm sewer
piping not being an issue. As was described in the past, if the water level
is allowed to increase above the normal water level as it is being requested,
thus becoming a higher normal water level, the storm sewer line will need to
be raised to accommodate the water flow. Storm water backs up into the pipe
when the water elevation is high allowing sediment to settle in the pipe which
causes maintenance problems in the long run.
Another issue Mr. Vraa brought up was that if the new normal water
elevation were to become 863.3, then, in the event of a 100 year storm, like
the one that occurred in 1987, the water level then bounces to 867.4.
Bonestroo, Rosene, Anderlick & Associates was asked to calculate- the time
frame for this pond to lower in the event of a 100 year storm. They responded
that since Mooney Lake was the overflow of several other ponds, once the rain
occurred, and the lift station pump started working, it would take
approximately 60 days for the water level of Mooney Lake to reach it's
proposed normal of 863.3 because of the lowering of the 3-4 ponds that would
overflow into Mooney Lake. With this being the case, the water sitting
between the 863.3 and 867.4 level would flood out a new generation of trees.
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Mr. Vraa stated that in looking at the alternative of cleaning up the
pond and reinstalling the trail, the cleaning process could begin very soon.
One of the City's contractors, Central Landscaping, visited the site with
staff yesterday, however they were not very enthusiastic about the prospect of
bringing heavy equipment down too near the shoreline for cleanup. It was
suggested that some of the seasonal park staff could begin some of the
preliminary pick up around the area and then the contractor would bring in a
hydraulic backhoe to clean out stumps, debris, etc near the shoreline. The
area to be cleaned out would be near the shoreline - approximately 3-5 feet
wide. The equipment would gain access to the pond shoreline via the lift
station and would proceed with their work in a westerly direction however the
equipment may have a difficult time accessing the west side of Mooney Lake so
some of the dead trees may be left in part of that area. Steve Sullivan added
that some erosion has occurred behind some of the homes and while the workers
are in that area they would like to repair that situation.
Commission Member Michele Swanson questioned the "dredging" that was
addressed in the position paper from the neighborhood. Ken Vraa clarified
that the clean-up would include pulling stumps but would not include dredging
out the bottom of the pond. After the residents expressed some concern about
the work that would be done to the shoreline Steve Sullivan clarified that the
work would not alter the shoreline or the lake bed.
Member Swanson stated that her concern regarding water level was based
on multiple rain days rather than the 100 year rain scenario. Mr. Vraa noted
that the calculations for the flood levels were based on other variables also
such as the amount the soil is saturated, frequency of rain, etc., in addition
to the 100 year storm scenario.
Member Masin asked what the difference was in the normal level of the
pond versus the current level. Mr. Vraa stated that the normal level is 859.4
but that currently is was approximately one foot below that level.
Carla Ingalls was concerned about the emphasis on the "normal level of
the lake" indicting that their information from the DNR expressly stated that
unless the lake is maintained at a high level and the weeds that have grown in
the pond this summer are cut and harvested the lake will die. She also stated
that to make a decision on the level of the lake based on a 100 year flood is
foolish; especially since the projection for the next few years indicates
continued drought conditions.
Member Sames asked if there were trees on the pond side of the trail
before the trail was installed to determine what the "normal" level of the
lake was before the trail was installed. It was noted that the trees were
there which would support the normal water level at 859.4, below the trail
elevation.
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Bill Dove from Chatterton Ponds explained to the Commission that since
he had lived in this area the path had not been usable. Residents who were
there at the time the trail existed have indicated to Mr. Dove that that path
was not used by the residents, rather by the kids accessing Mooney Lake. He
suggested that rather than concentrating on placing the trail in the same
location, why not place it across the front of the properties and have access
near the pumping station. Once the trail is removed then the level of the
lake can be determined.
Member Sames stated that there appears to be two separate issues; one
being the cleaning up of the lake and restoring the quality of the lake and
the other, trail issue, is separate. If the quality of the lake can be
restored than the path issue is dealt with at another level, but not as one
and the same. The Commission's predecessors felt that this trail was a vital
link at the time of the development and the City would loose an amenity if the
trail was removed completely.
Nancy Creighton from Chatterton Ponds stated that with the area around
Mooney Lake continuing to grow there will continue to be more run-off into the
lake, thus the lake needs to be deeper to dilute the pollutants running into
it. Wayne Sames asked Mr. Barton of Dakota Soils if a greater volume in the
lake would handle the problem. Mr. Barton stated that the added volume would
not have a significant affect but that the quality of the water going into the
pond would have the most affect.
Another resident brought up the question of considering docks as had
been discussed earlier. She noted that it appeared the only conversation was
geared toward installing a trail and no other issue was being considered. She
asked if this was not being considered any longer. Mr. Vraa noted that the
cost factor of the dock(s) ($2500 each approximately) may be a deterrent.
Steve Sullivan noted that even with the placement of dock(s), cleanup needed
to be completed as well as the issue of trail needs into the park.
The homeowner of Lot 5 addressed the Commission as a resident of 7 years
noting that lake front lots were $35,000 based on a lake view, not a view of
the trail. This amount was significantly higher than lots that did not front
Mooney Lake. During the time she's lived in that area there has been
significant damage to the trees and expressed her concern about the erosion
control measures mentioned earlier. She didn't want to see dirt pushed up
against the trees and run the risk of destroying even more of them. Steve
Sullivan explained that the erosion control he was referring to included an
area about 15 feet long and 3 feet wide so there would be little chance for
disturbance to the trees with this work.
Bill Dove shared his assessment of the issues noting that the first was,
is the path important; and second, is the path important at the expense of the
ecology of the lake. He felt that the lake sems to become the sacrificial
lamb so the trail can exist.
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Carla Ingalls again reiterated that by increasing the level of the lake
a foot or two from where it exists won't make that great a difference. The
DNR had indicated to them that the profuse growth on the lake bed was due to
the low water level. She stated she lived in this area when the water was
below the path and the lake was still lovely. In order to maintain the
integrity of Mooney Lake the level of the lake must be significantly higher
than it is now.
John Barton stated that if the water level was raised 1-2 feet this may
eliminate the growth on the lake bed somewhat but the level of the water will
have very little influence on what the water quality of the lake is. That
issue can be resolved by controlling the kind of run-off that enters Mooney
Lake.
Member Michele Swanson asked, for clarification, if the property where
the trail exists is park property and if the trail is pulled out, who will
maintain the land between homeowners and lake. Mr. Vraa noted that the trail
was on park property. Wayne Sames expressed his concern regarding losing the
parkland dedication that was originally planned for this development.
Member JoAnne Alt stated that the residents' implication that the
Commission didn't bother to do anything about this situation and didn't care
were very untrue. She has been a member of the Commission for many years and
is aware of the many different issues that come before the Commission
regarding the good of the City. Ms. Alt noted that she, too, has a lake
front lot but felt that homeowners need to be very aware of all the
implications before purchasing a lot like this.
Vice-Chair Masin thanked the residents for their candid responses and
for sharing their opinions with the Commission. She asked the Commission
members to share their opinions individually before the vote was taken.
Dr. Silas Kung addressed the Commission noting that he was not happy
with the way in which this situation has been handled. His assessment was
that the question was not to keep the pathway, rather that the lake is dying
because of human interference. He felt the environment should be kept in it's
natural condition and that the City has the responsibility of keeping the lake
in tact.
Member Porter noted that his opinion was that the path should be behind
the homes but had some concern that there had been no comments from the
affected homeowners regarding running the trail in front of their property. He
felt that the water level should not be raised, that the normal water level
should remain at 859.4 and that he would like to see the path completed to
Chatterton Ponds. The dock(s) and trail in front of the homes could also be a
consideration based on the financial implication.
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Michele Swanson expressed her concern regarding the water quality of the
lake and whether the fish life is going to be maintained. The response was
that the fish would not survive over winter without an aeration system.
Member Swanson supported cleaning up the area around the lake and putting in
the trail.
Member Sandy Masin supported cleaning up the pond and then installing
the trail but questioned the time frame to do the work. Director Vraa
responded that the clean-up work can be accomplished between 8/15/88 and
10/31/88. He also noted that if the trail is going in it needs to be done
this fall. Sandy Masin continued that her recommendation would be to keep the
water level and trail as planned and approved at the July Commission meeting.
She also noted that the Commission was trying, and would continue to work on
solutions that best serve the City.
Gary Musselwhite addressed the Commission by stating that he felt there
wasn't sufficient information for the Commission to make an informed decision
at this point. He suggested that more facts be gathered before any decision
be made on this issue.
Bill Dove stated that an aerator in the pond would definitely improve
the quality of the lake. As a riparian property owner he would be open to
accepting an assessment for the power necessary to keep the aerator going in
the pond. Parks Superintendent VonDeLinde addressed the aeration programs
that have been used in the past in the City. He noted that there is a grant
program available to help maintain fish life over the winter by using an
aeration system. One has been installed in Schwanz Lake at a cost of
approximately $15,000. Mooney Lake would not qualify for this grant because
it is too small. John Barton suggested looking into a spray aeration system
that would operate in the summer only since the DNR would not allow this
system over the winter and it is much less expensive.
After much discussion, JoAnne Alt moved, Michele Swanson seconded with
all members voting in favor to clean up the lake edge, reinstall the trail,
investigate raising the lowest level of the trail slightly, and have staff
investigate an aeration system for Mooney Lake.
Vice-Chair Masin thanked the residents for taking the time to share
their concerns with the Commission.
POLICY ON WATER MANAGEMENT
At the August meeting, the Commission directed Staff to do..a review of
the water quality as a result of the Rahn Cliff 2nd Addition development.
Parks Planner, Steve Sullivan began his investigation into this issue and has
consulted with several people on this issue. John Barton from Dakota County
Soils was present to review a portion of the Water Quality Management Plan
which is in the process of being implemented in the City of Eagan.
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John Barton explained to the Commission that most water quality issues
revolve around the amount of excess nutrients or fertilizer that is emptied
into the ponds in the area. The specific problem comes from the amount of
phosphorous that enters the water. As the phosphors level increases in the
water there is an increase in chlorophyll a. When the phosphors level
continues to increase the algae increases cutting out many other life forms
that would have been found in the pond. As the percentage of the watershed
areas increase so do the percentages of phosphorous found in ponds/lakes. The
City of Eagan is taking a long hard look at trying to control the amount of
phosphorous that enters the waterways, thus increasing the quality.
At the present time all 350 water bodies in Eagan have been inventoried.
They will be placed in several categories or classifications for
identification purposes. The proposed classifications will be ready shortly
after which a hearing will be held for residents to respond to the
classification that has been issued.
The long term benefit to this program will be that when a development is
being proposed surrounding a water body, calculations will be completed taking
into consideration the type of development, how many people will be there,
etc. so that the developer will be able to be given the approximate size and
shape the pond will need to be to accommodate their development. Currently
Blackhawk Pond Watershed has pond requirements as does LeMay Lake.
Sandy Masin asked if this type of system would have helped a situation
similar to the Mooney Lake issue. Mr. Barton noted that if Mooney Lake had
been designated as a recreational lake, for example, then the water quality
calculations could have been done to determine what changes, if any, needed to
be accomplished to accommodate the growth around this water body.
Wayne Sames noted that there seems to be confusion between water clarity
and water quality and stated that sometimes the water clarity can be poor
whereas the quality can be very good. He told Mr. Barton that the Commission
recommended the use of a nutrient trap which they felt would be beneficial in
the Rahn Cliff situation. Steve Sullivan asked what happens to wetland when
it's used as a nutrient trap. Mr. Barton responded by saying that the wetland
area would be taken over by cattails and the diversity of other growth will
disappear.
Michele Swanson asked Mr. Barton if he was aware of a purple strife
problem in Eagan. He said the DNR has a purple loosestrife program to try to
combat it, but it eventually takes over wetland and does not provide for
wildlife habitat.
Wayne Sames asked, if the Commission could prev-iew what would be
happening at a public hearing before it occurs to which Mr. Barton responded
he would provide the Commission with the information when it becomes
avail able.
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SUMMER PLAYGROUND REPORT
Recreation Supervisor Paula Nowariak was present to update the
Commission on the summer programs that have been conducted by the Parks and
Recreation Department. She indicated that after the preliminary interviews
last spring, 29 summer staff were hired with 18 of them returning from
previous years. Bonnie Blood assisted Paula in preparing a handbook for the
leaders to use in the various programs which included activities, crafts,
songs, rhymes, emergency information, policies and procedures. The initial
planning and preparation for the summer programs paid off with each program
running smoothly and efficiently by a very supportive and close staff. Each
park was supervised each day which helped with the continuity of the program
in general.
One of the events for the summer was the Tiny Tots 10 year birthday
party. The original class and instructors were invited to join the summer '88
Tiny Tots class. Everyone attending had a terrific time.
Summer in the Parks encompassed 11 sites this year with over 800
children registered. At 4 parks there were over 100 children registered.
Blue Cross/Blue Shield, for example, had 44 registered in 1987 and 96 in 1988.
Walnut Hill had 20 registered in 1986, 67 in 1987 and 116 in 1988. Pilot Knob
offered a morning session for the first time with 34 registered. All the
field trips were very successful with 4 full buses transporting kids to each
one. The playwagon locations continued to be a valuable addition to the
Summer in the Parks program which culminated with a Summer Finale with over
200 kids participating for an afternoon of fun at Rahn Park.
Paula narrated a slide presentation showing the programs in action
including, Eaganettes, T-Ball, Tiny Tots birthday party and various activities
that the children were able to participate in this summer. Paula thanked
Bonnie Blood, Recreation Intern for her ever present helping hand in keeping
the summer programs running so smoothly and successfully.
Paula brought two issues to the Commission's attention that they may
want to give some thought to in the near future. The first issue was the
consideration of speeding up the schedule for installing sun shelters at some
of the parks where summer programs run. After the intense heat this summer,
there were some parksites that had no shade to offer comfort and this should
be a consideration if the numbers of participants continues to increase at the
rate they have been. The second issue was one of day care. In some cases,
parents used Summer in the Parks program as their day-care and some children
really did not want to be there, especially when the weather was so hot.
Staff sees this as a growing problem and perhaps some policy decisions need to
be=made regarding how this should be handled. .In some `cases, Staff stayed
after their-defined. hours: because children were-left at the park and the
parent.-had not picked them up on time.
Advisory Parks and Recreation Commission
Minutes of August 4, 1988 Meeting
Page 13
PARK NAMES
Ken Vraa explained to the Commission that they had reviewed this issue
months ago but that official action had not been taken to date. The
Commission discussed the proposed names and on a motion by JoAnne Alt,
seconded by Wayne Sames with all members voting in favor the following park
names were recommended for approval:
1. SLATER ACRES PARK - Park currently identified as Winkler/Jackson
2. KETTLE LAKE - Park currently identified as Vienna Woods Park
3. GEORGE OHMANN PARK - Park currently identified as Ohmann Park
4. SKYLINE PARK - Park currently identified as Blue Cross/Blue Shield
5. MUELLER FARM PARKPark currently identified as Woodland School/Park
6. BRIDLE RIDGE PARK-18 acre park currently identified as BridleRidge
WANDERING WALK PARK - Open space/green belt near Bridle Ridge Park
HEINE POND PARK
Director Vraa explained that Staff is currently working with the grading
contractor for grading, trails, etc. The cost for doing the work will be
$11,500 and can proceed with Commission approval. The money for this park
improvement would come from the park bond fund. Steve Sullivan indicated that
the bituminous work would tie into the contractor's schedule so that we can
take advantage of the good price for these improvements.
After further discussion, Bob Porter moved, Michele Swanson seconded,
with all members voting in favor to accept Staff's recommendation to complete
Heine Pond Park.with funds being allocated from the park bond fund.
BURR OAKS
Director Vraa stated that the park is rough graded and topsoil is
resting on the parking lot site. The tennis court will be added on with the
Northview tennis court contract but the request is to have the parking lot,
trail work done at this time. The work to be completed would cost $45,000 -
$55,000 -which, again would be allocated from the park bond fund upon
Commission approval.
Wayne Sames;;moved, -JoAnne Alt seconded with all members. voting in'favor
to ,-proceed with. the work ,at Burr; Oaks Park - as described with funds being
allocated from the park bond fund.
Advisory Parks and Recreation Commission
Minutes of August 4, 1988 Meeting
Page 14
SOUTH OAKS
Ken Vraa explained to the Commission that the residents in this area
have petitioned the City to install a storm sewer line. The line will go
through South Oaks Park and in order to accommodate this disruption to the
park, Ken and Steve Sullivan have been working to suggest the least amount of
impact on the park.
Steve Sullivan noted two alignments that were proposed. The most
desired alignment shows the east/west alignment because of shorter pipe links
required and the least amount of disturbance to the park. The links are
planned to go under a stand of trees and around the beach area. Sandy Masin
asked how deep the pipe would go under the trees and would it disturb the
roots. Mr. Sullivan noted that they were planning on going 20 feet deep and
between the trees. This process is a bit more expensive but much less than
running the storm sewer pipe as shown in Alternate A, south along the west
side of the park and east across the open play soccer field to the easterly
side of the park.
Wayne Sames asked when the work would be completed and Mr. Vraa
indicated that there would be a public hearing on August 16th to determine
that.
After further discussion, Wayne Sames moved, Bob Porter seconded with
all members voting in favor to approve the alignment of Alternate B for the
storm sewer line through South Oaks Park.
With the lateness of the hour, JoAnne Alt moved, Michele Swanson
seconded, with all members voting in favor to adjourn the Commission meeting,
reconvene on Thursday, August 18th at 7:00 P.M., Council Chambers, Municipal
Center.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:15 P.M.
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