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03/05/1992 - Advisory Parks & Recreation Commission MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE ADVISORY PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION EAGAN, MINNESOTA MARCH 5, 1992 A regular meeting of the Advisory Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. on Thursday, March 5, 1992 with the following Commission Members present: Jonathan Widem, Ted Billy, Deborah Johnson, Dan Mooradian, Lee Markell and Kevin Knight. Commission Members Erin Ipsen and Jack Johnson were not present. Staff present included Ken Vraa, Director of Parks and Recreation; Stephen Sullivan, Landscape Architect/Parks Planner; Dorothy Peterson, Superintendent of Recreation; John VonDeUnde, Parks Superintendent; Rich Brasch, Water Resources Coordinator; Mike Ridley, Project Planner and Cherryl Mesko, Secretary. AGENDA Deborah Johnson moved, Dan Mooradian seconded with all members voting in favor to accept the agenda as presented. MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF FEBRUARY 6, 1992 Page 7, Paragraph 6, first line should read, "Jack Johnson asked if there.... . Paragraph 8, first line should read, Vraa responded yes." Dan Mooradian moved, Deborah Johnson seconded with all members voting in favor to accept the regular minutes of February 6, 1992 as amended. TOWN CENTRE 70 12TH ADDITION - MIDWEST RESTAURANT ASSOCIATES Ted Billy moved, Kevin Knight seconded with all members voting in favor to make the following recommendations to the City Council regarding Town Centre 70 12th Addition. 1. The proposal be subject to a cash parkland dedication. 2. The proposal be subject to a cash trailway dedication. 3. The proposal be subject to a cash dedication of $10,710 to satisfy water quality requirements. DEERWOOD PONDS ADDITION Project Planner Mike Ridley introduced this item as an application for a Comprehensive Guide Plan Amendment from D-III to D-I, a Rezoning of approximately 17 acres from PD/R-3 to a straight R-1 removing the Planned Development zoning and a Preliminary Plat consisting of 28 single family lots. The site is located north of Diffley Road and west of Pilot Knob Road. Landscape Architect/Parks Planner Sullivan explained that the park dedication for this PD was to be a land dedication at the time of platting, however the Knob Hill Planned Development Agreement has since expired, therefore eliminating the previously approved parkland dedication obligation. Steve reminded the Commission that they had previously studied this area and concluded that a park may potentially be located within the area north or west of this parcel. He continued that the park need and location would be determined based on future defined land use and population concentrations. Deerwood School is within this park service area which provided some park benefit and the potential for improvement to the existing elementary site may provide opportunities for a combined neighborhood/school park site. ADVISORY PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES OF MARCH 5, 1992 MEETING PAGE 2 Mr. Sullivan continued that the developer has taken a very positive approach to tree preservation including downzoning, custom grading approach, use of private access roads and utilization of tree protection fencing. By using the custom grading approach, staff will have the opportunity to review each lot before grading is done on the site. Water Resources Coordinator Brasch reviewed the water quality issues for the Commission explaining that the runoff generated by the proposed development will eventually reach Blackhawk Lake, approximately one mile down drainage. Rich continued that the proposed development contains all or part of several existing wetlands on site which will remain intact and will receive some stormwater runoff from the development. The original recommendation for this development was to raise the normal water level of the larger southern cell of pond BP-27 by one foot to elevation 886.75, and Increase the wet storage volume of the small northern cell of pond BP-27 by .75 acre/feet. Additionally, the outlet on the southern cell of pond BP-27 would Include a skimmer. Mr. Brash stated that the developer's engineers ran into some problems with increasing the normal water level and have asked to meet with staff on Friday, March 6 to see if some resolution can be agreed upon. Lee Markell asked what the impact would be to vegetation if the pond level was increased by one foot. Rich responded that he had not been able to make that determination to date because of the current ice cover. Ted Billy asked if the water quality issue should be tabled until after the March 6th meeting between staff and the developer. Ken Vraa responded that this development will be presented to the City Council on March 17th and suggested that the Commission make a recommendation regarding parks and trails dedication even if they table the water quality Issue. Mr. Clarence Kemp asked that the Commission make a recommendation on the water quality issue based on the results of staff's meeting with him and the engineers on March 6th. Rich Brasch stated that the Commission may want to consider a water quality recommendation that stated to the degree the wet pond volume cannot be expanded, a cash dedication would be required. Rich continued that the Commission may have several options; on site ponding could be required to take advantage of existing ponds, a cash contribution could be required, or the Commission may look at a combination of those options. After further discussion, Ted Billy moved, Deborah Johnson seconded with all members voting in favor to make the following recommendations to the City Council regarding Deerwood Ponds Addition. 1. The proposal be subject to a cash parkland dedication. 2. The proposal be subject to a cash trails dedication. 3. The developer submit a tree protection plan, which denotes woodland masses by general type and size. The plan shall Indicate tree protection fencing area for the Initial custom grading. The plan shall be prepared, reviewed and approved by staff prior to final platting. 4. The developer provides tree protection fencing for each lot which Is to be reviewed and approved by City staff at the time of building permit application. 5. The water quality portion of this proposal be tabled pending the results of staff's meeting with the developer and engineers on March 6, 1992. INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT #196 - ELEMENTARY SCHOOL #17 Project Planner Mike Ridley Introduced this item as a Comprehensive Guide Plan Amendment from D-1 (Single Family) to PF (Public Facilities), a Rezoning of 15 acres from AG (Agricultural) to PF (Public Facilities, and a Preliminary Plat consisting of one lot and one Outlot for an elementary school located along the south side of Wescott Road and east of Denmark Avenue in the NE 1 /4 of Section 22. Mike continued that the Advisory Planning Commission had denied all 3 requests at their February meeting and this item has been continued to the March 17, 1992 City Council meeting. ADVISORY PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 5, 1992 PAGE 3 In addressing the parks and trails dedication issues, Steve Sullivan stated that approximately 50% of this site is wooded. The site program for the elementary school includes a 78,965 square foot building, 98 car parking lot, service area, trails, two softball/soccer field overlays, hard surface play area and playground. The south 50 feet of the parcel is consumed by a Williams Brothers Pipeline easement. Steve continued that public facilities are not subject to parks dedication, however, the recommended cash trails dedication amount equates to $12,810.00. Another issue presented for the Commission's review was that of tree preservation. Steve noted that of the 15 acre school site, approximately 5.5 of the 7.5 acres of woodland will be removed. It was noted that at each meeting City staff has expressed concern regarding the amount of tree loss. The School District has responded by revising the layout and grading to preserve significant oak trees along their westerly property line. Steve continued that the tree loss Is a direct result of a realistic, but land consumptive, site program required for school facilities. Because the recreational facilities will be placed on a rolling site, additional grading needs to occur causing additional tree loss resulting in the limited acreage, site program and rolling terrain not being compatible in providing extensive woodland preservation. After reviewing specific areas where significant trees will be impacted, Steve stated that there can be some preservation based on grading manipulation. In conclusion, Steve stated that staff recommends that the School District review individual tree preservation prior to final platting. Water Resources Coordinator Brasch reviewed the water quality issues for the Commission. He stated the Commission would need to review and make a recommendation regarding whether the development should be subject to a ponding requirement or a cash dedication requirement to meet the water quality standards. He noted that stormwater runoff from the site will be discharged first to Pond JP- 11.1, will flow through two other intervening ponds and then be discharged to Fish Lake. Rich reminded the Commission that Fish Lake does not currently meet its designated Class I direct contact recreation lake classification. It was noted that normally, on-site ponding would be preferred on this site, however, school district officials feel there Is not sufficient space on the site to accommodate a pond of this size, provide for adequate tree protection and still meet school district guidelines for play fields. In addition, there is one large nutrient basin between the discharge point for the schools stormwater and the nearest downstream recreational water body where modification could be made to improve treatment efficiencies. In conclusion, Rich suggested the Commission consider requesting a cash dedication of $14,510 to satisfy water quality requirements. Kevin Knight asked if consideration was given to providing ponds of various sizes to accommodate the water quality considerations. Eric Linnear of Wold Architects responded that If ponding was required on site it would require considerable tree loss. Lee Markell asked what type of modification would be made to the downstream pond. Mr. Brasch responded that this pond is served by a lift station so the thought is to build a suspended inlet that would keep the port 2 feet above the bottom of the pond. Ted Billy suggested that this appeared to be an Issue of on-site ponding versus tree preservation. Rich Brasch added that it was actually ponding versus playing fields to meet the criteria for School District 196. Kevin Knight asked what the district's criteria was for playing fields. Mr. Linnear responded that the school will have a population of 775 students which would require two soccer fields and two softball fields. He added that the school district had provided for a softball overlay on a soccer field to help preserve 85 feet of trees. He continued that this compromise was the best the school district could provide. Dan Mooradian asked if on-site ponding would be an option of future development sites near this proposed development to which Rich Brasch responded affirmatively. Lee Markell asked if there were other sites the school district had looked at before deciding upon this one. Mr. Linnear responded that the need for a school was between Deerwood and Woodland elementary schools and this was felt, by the district, to be the best site. ADVISORY PARKS RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 5, 1992 PAGE 4 Lee Markell asked if retaining walls could be used in other areas on the site to help preserve some of the vegetation. Mr. Unnear stated that they are looking at the option of installing a retaining wall on the west side of the west playing field to preserve trees. Steve Sullivan added that additional trees can be saved by retaining walls, however the question Is what would be the dollar expenditure needed to preserve them. There also is a three foot high maximum size that can be used for retaining walls when planned In an area where there will be so many children. After further discussion, Ted Billy moved, Lee Markell seconded the motion with all members voting in favor to make the following recommendations to the City Council regarding Independent School District 196 - Elementary School #17. 1. The proposal be subject to a cash trails dedication. 2. The School District evaluate and submit to the City, prior to Final Plat, tree specific preservation revisions. 3. The proponent submit a tree protection plan to the City prior to Final Plat. 4. The development be subject to a cash dedication of $14,510 to satisfy water quality requirements. MEGHANS ADDITION - PULSAR INC. Project Planner Mike Ridley introduced this item as a Comprehensive Guide Plan Amendment from Neighborhood Business to D-III (Mixed Residential, 6-12 units/acre), a Rezoning from Neighborhood Business to R-4 (Multiple Family), and a Preliminary Plat consisting of 13 townhouse lots on 10.6 acres. The site is located at the SE Intersection of Diffley Road and Nicols Road. Rich Brasch addressed the water quality issues for this development explaining that this proposed multi-family residential development lies in the lower reach of drainage basin A. He continued that approximately 8.6 acres of the site will discharge to a storm sewer along Nicols Road with the remaining 2 acres discharging stormwater to the northeast to the existing storm sewer system on Diffley Road. This will eventually drain to Pond AP-39 which Is located in between the railroad tracks and the Minnesota River along Nicols Road and Is classified as a sedimentation basin. Mr. Brasch continued that on-site ponding is feasible for that portion of the development that will discharge to the storm sewer along Nicols Road and In order to provide adequate treatment the pond would need to provide a minimum wet volume of .81 acre/feet, minimum surface area of .31 acres and a minimum average depth of 2.6 feet. Since on-site ponding would not be feasible for the remainder of the site, Rich suggested the Commission consider a cash dedication of $2,260 for the remaining 2 acres. Relative to the parks dedication Issue, Director Vraa explained that the development was zoned neighborhood business sometime prior to the 1970's when the Cedar Grove Addition was platted and developed. After reviewing all available files, staff has found no Indication that parks dedication was ever fulfilled at the time this parcel was platted. Ken continued that the developer has expressed some concerns over how the rate for parks dedication would be calculated, asking specifically if the rate would be $559 per unit as is represented in the 1992 fees. The developer has expressed the opinion that $559 per unit exceeds the general guideline of 10-12% for parks dedication based on the current value of their property. Mr. Dave Sellergren, representing Pulsar Inc., addressed the Commission by reviewing the general guidelines for parks dedication policies. He stated that the Statute allows the City to have the option of requesting either cash or land dedication from a developer. He continued that most cities say that 10% is a reasonable dedication amount but the option remains open for negotiation between the city and the developer. ADVISORY PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 5, 1992 PAGE 5 As history, Mr. Sellergren stated that the land was platted years ago and that Cedar Pond Park was dedicated as part of Cedar Grove 1st and 2nd Addition. He argued that this parcel is being re-platted and the question the Commission needs to answer is whether or not the platting requirements were met when this parcel was originally platted for neighborhood business. It was noted that the developer, since appearing before the Advisory Planning Commission, had reduced the number of units from 104 to 88 to help mitigate some of the concerns shared by neighboring residents. Relative to the parks and trails dedication fees, Mr. Sellergren stated that the combined amount of $669 per unit times the 88 units planned equals $58,872, or approximately 19% of the $300,000 land value. The developer is of the opinion that this percentage far exceeds the general guideline of 10-12%. The developer also felt that the dedication, or deeding, of Cedar Pond Park should be considered the parks dedication for this site since it was given at the time of the original platting of this property. Mr. Sellergren asked that the Commission consider all of these circumstances before deciding what the appropriate dedication would be or If a parks dedication would be necessary. Ted Billy asked what the developer felt was a reasonable solution. Mr. Sellergren stated that the developer has already taken sixteen units out of the project and they would like to see the Commission consider Cedar Pond Park as the park dedication and not ask for further dedication dollars. Jonathan Widem asked what type of units were projected. Mr. Sellergren responded that these were two bedroom units and it Is anticipated that there will be less than two people per unit since this type of housing Is typically occupied by singles. Dan Mooradian asked If the density exceed what was originally planned. Ken Vraa responded that this site has always been zoned neighborhood business and If that zoning stayed the same the parks dedication impact would be less than the density proposed in the Meghans Addition plat. Ted Billy stated that Neighborhood Business zoning has little impact on parks, whereas changing the zoning to multiple family will have a much larger Impact on the existing park system. Deborah Johnson asked for a clarification of the general guideline of the 10-12% park dedication range referenced by Mr. Sellergren. Mr. Vraa responded that this range varies by community but has been a very good gauge. However, not only is this percentage taken into account when determining park dedication but the density of a property is also considered. Ken added that as the density of a parcel increases so does the fee scale. Ms. Johnson then asked what percentage the park dedication fee represented. Mr. Vraa responded approximately 13%. Ms. Johnson continued that she was not persuaded that 13% had a precedent setting impact nor was it much out of the range of the general percentages. Mr. Sellergren added that the 19% figure he was using included both the park dedication fee of $559 per unit and the $100 per unit trail dedication fee. Jonathan Widem asked what the dollar value of Cedar Pond Park was and how big it was. Ken Vraa responded that the park was approximately 10 acres and was deeded, to the City In the 1950's but the City did not have a dedication policy until the 1970's. As a point of clarification, Mr. Sellergren stated that the deed to Cedar Pond Park was given to Eagan two years after the Cedar Grove Addition was platted. Ted Billy suggested that even if the City does not require a parkland dedication, the zoning change of this parcel will most definitely Impact the existing Cedar Pond Park. Deborah Johnson asked why the zoning was changed from Neighborhood Business to Multiple Family. Mr. Sellergren explained that the current market for neighborhood business In the community Is poor, the volume of traffic at this intersection has changed but the volumes have not grown to the capacity as was once projected when originally platted, the multiple family product would be a better "neighbor" to the existing residential, and the high demand for the product being planned would benefit both the developer and the community. ADVISORY PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES OF MARCH 5, 1992 MEETING PAGE 6 Ken Vraa noted that there were two entire buildings being deleted from the plan. Mr. Sellergren confirmed that Information stating that the buildings will then move away from the existing residential area. Ted Billy clarified that the $559 per unit park dedication and $100 per unit trails dedication fee remained the same as the 1991 fees. Jonathan Widem noted that in order to justify a credit for park dedication fees a development would need to show that they would not impact existing recreational facilities and asked the developer what facilities were being planned in this development to lessen the impact on surrounding parks. Mr. Sellergren stated that the developers felt that there would not be an impact to the surrounding facilities since the bulk of the residents are being projected as single women therefore the need for additional facilities, i.e. tot lots, etc. are not necessary. Ted Billy reiterated his concern for setting a precedent, adding that the Commission may find themselves in a position to negotiate with each developer/development If the park dedication fees are changed or waived. Mr. Sellergren stated he appreciated the Commission's concern however he reminded them that the guidelines were set for that reason; as a guideline, but should allow for the flexibility of negotiation. Dan Mooradian stated he did not see enough substantiation to change the parks dedication/trails dedication standards in this case. Both Lee Markell and Kevin Knight concurred. Deborah Johnson stated that being a single woman, the proposed target range for this development, she felt the provision for park facilities should definitely be provided for or be considered with a development of this density. Mr. Sellergren reminded the Commission that the developer is asking them to consider whether a 19% dedication fee is reasonable based on the value of the land. The developer feels that 19% Is excessive and not representative of the burden this development would place on the existing park system. Mr. Mooradian stated that the amount of parkland/trails dedication represents the density of the development, not a percentage of the value of the land. He continued that if the density were lower the dedication fees would be lower. The dollar amount reflected as parks/trails dedication reflects the developers desire to change the zoning and density of their property. After further discussion, Deborah Johnson moved, Dan Mooradian seconded the motion with all members voting in favor to make the following recommendations to the City Council regarding Meghans Addition. 1. The development be responsible for parks dedication fees at a rate of $559 per unit. 2. The development be subject to a combination of on-site ponding requirement to treat the 8.6 acres of the site that drains to Nicols Road and a cash dedication for the remainder of the site. The pond should be constructed according to National Urban Runoff Program design standards and should provide a minimum wet volume of .81 acre/feet, minimum surface area of .31 acres and a minimum acreage depth of 2.6 feet. In addition, a cash dedication of $2,260 should be required to meet the water quality requirements for the remainder of the site. 3. The development be responsible for trails dedication fees of $100 per unit only If, after Investigation and confirmation by staff, it is determined that trails/sidewalk assessments have not been levied and paid for this development. ADVISORY PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 5, 1992 PAGE 7 RESOLUTION SUPPORTING STATE & FEDERAL OUTDOOR RECREATION GRANTS FUNDING John VonDeLinde Introduced this item explaining that the MRPA is asking communities in Minnesota to enter into resolutions supporting continued funding and enhancement of Federal and State Outdoor Recreation Grant Programs to local units of government. Mr. VonDeLinde then reviewed the draft resolution providing a brief description of the State Outdoor Recreation Grant Program and Federal Land and Water Conservation Fund (LAWCON) Program. Some of the grants for parks acquisition and development the City of Eagan has received in the past include such parks as Blackhawk, Trapp Farm, Thomas Lake, Patrick Eagan, Fish Lake and Rahn Athletic Parks. Because the funding through LAWCON and state programs has dwindled significantly it is felt that with the solidarity of many communities in the state expressing a similar view perhaps funding can continue. After further discussion, Jonathan Widem moved, Lee Markell seconded the motion with all members voting in favor to approve the adoption of the proposed resolution urging the continuation and expansion of the Federal Land and Water Conservation Fund and State Outdoor Recreation Grants Program. RESOLUTION ON WATER QUALITY - WESTON HILLS Rich Brasch explained that on February 14, 1992, representatives from the departments of Planning and Community Development, Public Works and Parks and Recreation met with the developer and the two riparian landowners on Pond LP-27 who had expressed concern about the water levels in the pond. At that time a verbal agreement was reached among all participants that storm water from the treatment pond in the Weston Hills development would be routed south to LP-27 with the understanding that the necessary ponding easements were to be given to the City, that an outlet would be Installed on LP-27 and that appropriate trunk storm sewer charges would be made to benefitted properties consistent with the policies established by the City Council. The City Council reviewed this development at their March 4, 1992 meeting. After the Council's review and recommendations, the riparian owners withdrew their approval to allow storm water to flow to the south to Pond LP-27. Initially these owners were uneasy about being assessed for the proposed pond improvements, but after the Weston Hills development was reviewed by the City Council the riparian owners were soured over other issues not related to the ponding. Dan Mooradian suggested that the best case for the residents was to bring the storm water to the south but understood their desire not to be assessed. He stated he wasn't clear why they would be willing to subject this wetland to drought because of other issues arising from the City Council meeting. Ted Billy noted that there appeared to be no other option than to drain the stormwater to the north. Deborah Johnson asked if the decreased water level was attributed to natural causes. Rich Brasch responded that the natural drainage is being shifted because of the development. Lee Markell asked if the majority of the drainage could go to the north with a portion directed to the south. Mr. Brasch responded that for the drainage from the development to run both north and south the developer would need to run storm sewer both north and south to allow for that option. If that did become an option, the riparian owners would still need to provide an easement which they are unwilling to do at this point. After further discussion, Ted Billy moved, Deborah Johnson seconded the motion with all members voting in favor to make the following three priority recommendations to the City Council regarding water quality issues for Wescott Hills. 1. First priority would be to have the storm water drain to the south into Pond LP-27. 2. Second priority would be to have the storm water drain to the north. ADVISORY PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES OF MARCH 5, 1992 MEETING PAGE 8 3. Third priority would be to have the storm water drain to the north and if enough water can be added by overland flow to the wetland so as not to dry Pond JP-27 (without causing a problem of flooding), this option should be considered. DEPARTMENT HAPPENINGS Some of the items reviewed by Superintendent of Recreation Peterson included the dosing of the ice rinks and tubing hill for the season, the beginning of adult softball registration and the successful completion of the bandy program. Another issue brought to the Commission's attention included the projected increase in EAA's summer programs; 50% increase in travel baseball and softball, 38% increase in bantam soccer, 24% increase in travel soccer, and 17% increase in-house baseball. Dorothy reviewed the facilities that will not be ready for use in summer, 1992. Superintendent of Parks VonDeLinde reviewed several items relative to the maintenance Issues including resuming construction of Trapp Farm playground, construction of athletic field benches, picnic tables and park Identification signs and the ongoing risk management program. John also commented that the City has received the designation of Tree City USA for the fifth consecutive year as well as being presented with a Growth Award. The most recent forestry brochures were given to Commission members and John explained that plans have begun to add two more to the series. Ted Billy asked about the widening of Diffley Road near the proposed Caponi Art Park and asked how traffic could be linked from Goat Hill and Lexington/Diffley park sites. Director Vraa stated the County is looking at the possible option of a tunnel under Diffley Road to accommodate access to the proposed park, however, the County will not assume any financial obligation for the installation of such a tunnel. In response to another question from Mr. Billy, Ken Vraa responded that U.S. West will be installing a 36 x 12 building to house communication equipment at the Lexington/Diffley site. He noted that staff will be provide input as to the type and style of building that will be placed near the water reservoir. Lee Markell suggested consideration be given to preparing a brochure that speaks to tree preservation from a homeowners perspective rather than a developer's. Deborah Johnson indicated she is shocked to see how developers clear sites for development and is impressed at the importance that Is now being placed on vegetation preservation. ICE ARENA/SWIMMING POOL UPDATE Director Vraa reviewed the ice arena/swimming pool plans as presented to the City Council on March 2, 1992. Ken indicated that the plans are only conceptual at this point and after further study there may be some changes made. The plans reviewed for the Commission members included site plans, swimming pool layout and ice arena layout. The projected construction costs for this project, including contingency, is approximately $5.6 million of which the City will contribute $1.3 million toward the project. Mr. Vraa stated that there Is a group of residents who have organized and will begin approaching local corporations for sponsorship and support. The Council has set a referendum date of May 19, 1992 but have not set a bond amount to date. ADVISORY PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 5, 1992 PAGE 9 JOINT MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL Mr. Vraa stated that the City Council has asked for a joint meeting with the various commissions and has proposed a meeting date of March 31 st. The Council has no specific agenda at this time but would like this to be a "give and take" situation where the Commissions and Council can see what Issues may need to be addressed in the future. On item the Council will want to pursue with the APRNRC Is water quality information. Ken asked that if any Commission Members had items they would like discussed they should get in touch with him so he can pass them on to Tom Hedges to be included on the agenda. ROUND TABLE Dan Mooradian commented on the I.S.D. #196 new school proposal. He continued that the main issue appeared to be a trade-off between on-site ponding to preserve water quality versus tree preservation. Dan felt that a high priority should continue to be placed on tree preservation. Lee Marken asked if staff knew why the streets are sanded so heavily in the winter. His concern Is for the high level of sand that is washed into the storm sewer system and ends up in the city's water bodies. He asked if the sand could be recycled In some way. Mr. Markell also asked staff if there was the potential for providing a canoe access on the west end of Hay Lake. He noted that since the large hill had been graded down the lake is more visible and people may want to access the lake with their canoes. Lee asked if staff could look into the feasibility of this request. With no further business to conduct, Lee Markeli moved, Dan Mooradian seconded the motion will all members voting in favor to adjourn the meeting. The meeting was adjourned at 9:40 P.M. s/7 Z- S etary Date