03/14/1994 - Advisory Parks & Recreation Commission
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF
ADVISORY PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
MARCH 14, 1994
A regular meeting of the Advisory Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission was called
to order at 7:00 p.m. on March 14, 1994 with the following Commission Members present: Ted Billy, George
Kubik, Lee Markell, John Rudolph, David Szott, Stephen Thompson, Ken Tyler, and Michael Vincent.
Commission Members Erin Ipsen-Borgersen, Dan Mooradian and Jonathan Widem were not present. Staff
present included Ken Vraa, Director of Parks and Recreation; Dorothy Peterson, Superintendent of Recreation;
John VonDeLinde, Parks Superintendent; C.J. Lilly, Landscape Architect/Parks Planner; Rich Brasch, Water
Resources Coordinator; Greg Hove, Forestry Supervisor; Paula Nowariak, Recreation Supervisor; Shannon
Tyree, Project Planner; Mike Ridley, Project Planner and Cherryl Mesko, Secretary.
PRESENTATION OF 10 YEAR AWARD - JUDY FORDE
Recreation Supervisor Nowariak introduced Judy Forde to the Advisory Commission noting that she has
dedicated 10 years of patience and understanding in working with the Tiny Tots program for the City of Eagan.
Paula explained that Judy has taught several members of the same family who, after having one child
participate in the Tiny Tots program were most anxious to have subsequent siblings participate.
Lee Markell, on behalf of the Advisory Commission, presented Judy Forde with a placque
commemorating her 10 years of service to the City of Eagan's preschool programs and thanked her for the
commitment and enjoyment she has brought to so many families.
AGENDA
Director Vraa explained that "Silver Bell 2nd Addition" had been pulled from the Consent Agenda and
"Request for Trail Resolution from Dakota County" should be added as Item #3 under "New Business' Stephen
Thompson moved, John Rudolph seconded with all members voting in favorto accept the agenda as amended.
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF FEBRUARY 14, 1994
George Kubik moved, Stephen Thompson seconded with all members voting in favor to accept the
minutes of the February 14, 1994 meeting as presented.
CONSENT AGENDA
George Kubik moved, Ted Billy seconded with all members voting if favor to make the following
recommendations to the Advisory Planning Commission and the City Council relative to Stonebridge 2nd
Addition:
1. The plat be subject to a cash trails dedication.
2. The plat be subject to a cash parks dedication.
3. The plat be subject to a cash water quality dedication.
4. This plat has no wetlands subject to regulation.
George Kubik moved, Stephen Thompson seconded with all members voting in favor to adopt the
Arbor Day Resolution as presented.
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PINES EDGE ADDITION
Project Planner Tyree explained that Shamrock Development is proposing to develop approximately
25 acres of land located south of Weston Hills, east of Dodd Road and immediately adjacent to Inver Grove
Heights. Shannon added that the developer is requesting the land be rezoned from agricultural to single family
and that the proposal is consistent with D1 zoning.
Director Vraa noted that the proposal is within Park Service Area 36E. Ken reminded the Commission
they had done a preliminary preview of this plat at their February meeting to indicate the general location for
parks dedication. Staff has met with the property owner to the west of this proposed plat to discuss the
potential for parks dedication of a 5 acre parcel which, when added to the 2.5 acre dedication for this plat,
would provide for a 7.5 acre park suitable for this park service area. Ken continued that if School District 196
locates an elementary school adjacent to this property there would be an opportunity for shared park facilities
with the school. Plans were shown the Commission indicating potential park property and it's relationship to
the lots within the proposed Pines Edge Addition.
Water Resources Coordinator Branch explained that this development is located in drainage basin L
which contains a high concentration of recreational lakes
1. To accept a full parks dedication of 2.5 acres with the developer to show a revised street plan
adjacent to the park dedication.
2. To require a cash trails dedication.
3. The developer shall be required to construct NURP basins to treat all runoff generated by the
proposed development. If the detention basins are not located within the development, the
developer must prove that he has secured the land necessary to accommodate the detention
basin requirements as determined by City water resources staff.
4. No filling or draining of wetlands on the site will be allowed.
5. The developer shall place permanent monuments at the corners of each lot adjacent to the
wetlands on the site prior to grading the site. The purpose of these monuments is to mark the
edge of the wetland to help prevent encroachment during both the grading and building
phases for the development. Sediment fencing is to be constructed during the construction
phase.
6. The developer shall allow the City the option of removing the road separating the Type 2
wetland basins in the northeast corner of the site for the purpose of restoring the original
wetland.
7. To acknowledge that the Pines Edge development tree preservation plan complies with the
City's Tree Preservation Guidelines and that the developer will not be responsible for tree
replacement provided no additional significant trees or woodlands are removed.
8. To acknowledge the presence of significant trees on Lots 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 15 and 16 of Block
1 and Lots 5 and 6 of Block 3 identified on the preliminary plat dated February 22, 1994
within the development will require future builders of these lots to prepare individual lot tree
preservation plans at the time of building permit application.
Lee Markell asked that the ponding not be delineated as part of the final plat approval pending the
clarification of treatment ponding location. Another concern expressed by the Commission was for the oak
trees in the northwest portion of the plat and the potential for flooding them out.
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LONE OAK FOREST
After Director Vraa introduced this item, Project Planner Tyree explained this proposal is for rezoning
and a preliminary plat for 62 single family homes and one outlot on 30.1 acres. The property is between Lone
Oak Road on the orth, Highway 55 on the south and the City of Inver Grove Heights on the east. Shannon
continued that this proposal is consistent with the Comprehensive Guide Plan with a density of 2.63 units per
acre. This proposal will be submitted to the Advisory Planning Commission at their March 22 meeting.
Director Vraa explained that this proposal is within Park Service Area 12N where this is currently no
park. It was hoped that given the multiple residential zoning that park facilities would not be city owned,
rather be provided in conjunction with the multiple family dwellings due to the isolated nature of this
neighborhood. Because of the relatively few number of homes proposed with this plat, consideration could
be given to the development providing a neighborhood commons in lieu of a park. If the decision is to provide
a park within this development., Ken continued, 3 acres would be required however, given the topography of
the site it may be difficult to find a location that would be accessible to the homes proposed as well as an
future subdivision to the west.
Water Resources Coordinator Brasch explained that the development straddles the divide between
drainage basin G to the south and F to the north. Runoff from the southern half of the development will
discharge to drainage basin G which eventually reaches Bur Oak Pond,an indirect contact recreation water
body. To preserve the integrity of Bur Oak Pond, staff is suggesting that on-site ponding be provided to treat
runoff from this portion of the site. Since there is no impact to recreational water bodies to the north, staff is
recommending a cash dedication in lieu of ponding.
Rich noted that the developer's wetland consultant identified 3 wetland basing totaling 2.16 acres on
the site. A sequencing analysis was required to attempt to avoid and minimize wetland fill/drain impacts to
the extent practicable. The total amount of fill proposed by the developer was .21 acres in two basins and
about .16 acres of fill because of County requirements for access to Lone Oak Road. The remainder is
associated with a street alignment internal to the development. Mr. Brasch noted that staff has reviewed the
replacement plan and finds it acceptable.
Forestry Supervisor Hove reviewed the site with the Commission providing photos to more clearly show
the impact to existing vegetation. Gregg noted that the site contains 249 significant trees and 36,400 square
feet of woodlands and the tree loss with this proposal would be 102 trees (41%) and 23,500 square feet of
woodlands (65%), which far exceeds the Tree Preservation Guidelines.
Director Vraa added that there have been comments from the residents relative to the airplane and
traffic noise if the level of tree loss is allowed as presented. It was also noted that a recent study indicated this
parcel would best be served by a commercial/industrial use.
Don Detleff, representing the developer, indicated they had spent a great deal of time preparing this
proposal so that it could be approved for 63 lots. The developer wants to develop this as proposed and has
no interest in changing it to commercial/industrial. Responding to a comment regarding loss of trees, Mr.
Detleff noted that the topography is very steep on this site and the largest loss to trees is from the entrance road
which would be hard to place any other way on the site.
Lee Markel) expressed his concern for the significant tree loss on this site as well as the airport noise
and traffic noise from Hwy 55. He was additionally concerned about the lack of park land for this site.
Director Vraa suggested that perhaps the land to the west of this development could provide that space
depending if the zoning was changed to residential.
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George Kubik asked if there was any potential for a common area. Director Vraa responded that due
to the steep topography of the site it would be difficult to provide a relatively flat play area. Mr. Kubik asked
what the possibility would be for the area to the west to be rezoned residential. Project Planner Tyree
responded that this site has been reviewed twice and mixed commercial/industrial type use has been
recommended. Currently the site has 12-15 single family houses on 105 acres with very steep grades. Mr.
Detleff responded that the developer has talked to the residents to the west and they like the proposed
development.
After further discussion Lee Markell moved, David Szott seconded with all members voting in favor
to recommend to the Advisory Planning Commission that this proposal not be approved due to the significant
tree loss as well as the concern for potential park locations. The impact of airplane traffic noise and highway
noise were also of great concern to the Commission.
ROONEY ADDITION
Project Planner Mike Ridley explained this application was for the rezoning of ten acres from
agricultural to R-1 single family for 18 single family lots located north of Diffley Road, immediately west of the
Caponi Art Park. Mike continued that the proposal is consistent with the Comprehensive Guide Plan and added
that all lots will be custom graded
Director Vraa noted that the development is located in Park Service Section 22 encompassing Patrick
Eagan Park, Berry Patch Park and property obtained through dedication several years ago from Windcrest
Development. Although there are no neighborhood park facilities with the confines of this service district,
recreational amenities are within the existing parks and Glacier Hills Elementary School to the north. Ken
continued that the City had previously acquired an easement from this parcel for a trail on the east edge which
leads from Diffley Road north to Patrick Eagan Park This trail will also service the Caponi Art Park and the
tunnel beneath County Road 30 which will access both sides of Diffley. Staff is recommending there be an
additional acquisition for trail purposes for both the north and south end of this trailway.
Forestry Supervisor Hove stated that the developer has shown several designs to mitigate tree loss.
Initial site development will result in a loss of approximately 20% of the total trees which is within the
standards of the tree preservation guidelines. Gregg added that when the plan showed two cul-de-sacs there
was a 29% tree loss, however with the changes, the tree loss is closer to 19%.
Water Resources Brasch explained that approximately 2/3 of this site will generate runoff that will
discharge to Pond JP-8.1 in Patrick Eagan Park. Runoff from the remaining 1/3 will leave the site and
eventually discharge to Pond LP-63, a nutrient basin just north of Diffley Road in the Carlson Lake drainage.
Relative to wetlands, Rich noted there is one wetland which was delineated by the developer and
identified as an inland shallow fresh marsh of approximately .33 acres. Since no draining or filling of the
wetland is proposed, a no-loss determination is being recommended by staff.
Mark Anderson, representing Lundgren Brothers Construction stated they were pleased to be working
in Eagan. He stated they are a complete developer and as such, create a neighborhood from the beginning.
It was also noted that their firm takes a very aggressive approach to tree preservation and they have taken great
care to minimize the impact to them. Mr. Anderson suggested that the Commission, during their review of the
Tree Preservation Guidelines, think about averaging the tree loss over an entire site so the net loss remains the
same but the developer has the option of choosing where the tree loss can occur.
Lee Markell complimented the developer for their efforts in saving trees. George Kubik also
commented that the developer appears to have been very cautious in tree preservation for this site.
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After further discussion, Ted Billy moved, George Kubik seconded with all members voting in favor
to make the following recommendation to the Advisory Planning Commission and City Council relative to the
Rooney Addition:
1. The developer is to provide a parkland dedication of Outlot A.
2. The developer is to provide a cash dedication for the remainder of parks dedication in cash.
3. The developer is to provide a cash dedication for trails.
4. The developer shall pay a cash dedication in lieu of on-site ponding to meet water quality
protection requirements.
5. A determination of no loss of wetlands to be made by the City since the developer will not
fill or drain any portion of wetlands on the site.
6. The City acknowledges the Rooney property tree preservation plan complies with the City of
Eagan's tree preservation guidelines.
7. Individual lot tree preservation plans are to be submitted at the time of building permit
applications.
ST. CHARLES WOODS ADDITION
Director Vraa introduced this as a comprehensive land use guide plan amendment of 10 acres from
multiple mixed residential to D-2 mixed residential for a preliminary plat consisting of 24 single family lots
Project Planner Ridley explained that the property is located north of Slater Acres Park, east of Slater
Acres Road and west of Trunk Highway 77. The area to the north is undeveloped land zoned planned
development/limited business. Mike continued that this property is part of the Winkler/Jackson PUD and was
designated to be developed with a maximum number of 143 dwelling units although less density is allowed.
Director Vraa explained that as part of the Winkler/Jackson PUD there are no parks dedication
requirements. Ken noted that the cul-de-sac that is proposed runs approximately 30 feet from the park's edges
which presents an opportunity to link the residential area to the park, but also creates the potential for visual
incompatibility with the park and potential for undesirable access from the cul-de-sac. The potential to
construct an eight foot wide bituminous trail from the end of the cul-de-sac into the park making connection
with an existing trail near the existing hard court was discussed. Staff would also be recommending that two
landscape berms be created and vegetated to act as a visual screen and a psychological barrier for others than
pedestrians or bicyclists.
Water Resources Coordinator Brasch explained that this development is located in the upper reaches
of drainage basin A in southwest Eagan. Runoff from this site will discharge directly to Pond AP-1 9, a shallow
.7 acre wetland in Slater Acres Park classified as a scenic recreation water body. This pond currently receives
direct drainage from 14 acres of existing single family residential developments. Rich continued that the
developer proposes to modify the storm system along Slater Road to discharge runoff from 6.4 acres of the
development to Pond AP-45 to mitigate the impact to Pond JP-1 9. The developer would also like to discharge
runoff from about 3.7 acres of the development directly to Pond AP-19 to reduce impacts to significant trees
on the site.
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Relative to wetlands, the developer's consultant has conducted a wetland survey which identifies two
small wetlands totaling .12 acres which lie partially or wholly within the site. The wetland located in the
northwest corner of the site would not be filled or drained, however the developer's consultant contends that
the second wetland which lies adjacent to Slater Road in the south west portion of the site, may be exempted
from regulation under the WCA. The consultant is currently assembling information to document this claim
and if the exemption goes through, there will be no impact to the site, however, if it does not, it may result
in the loss of two lots.
Forestry Supervisor Hove explained that of the 194 significant trees that currently exist on the site,
approximately 25.7% (50) of them will be lost through the site development. The developer will be responsible
for planting two Category B 2-1/2 inch diameter trees as mitigation. The developer has also indicated that 6
of the 24 lots will be custom graded to reduce future tree loss.
Dale Runkle, representing Argus Development, explained that the developer agrees with staff's
recommendations with the exception of the 8-10 foot berming requested between the cul-de-sac and the park.
Mr. Runkle stated they would prefer planting trees rather than providing a berm.
Lee Markell asked if the tree loss numbers would be reduced if the wetland exemption is not
successful. Mr. Runkle stated that the developer would prefer to mitigate wetland impact off-site. He noted
that they owned 6 acres to the north and would like mitigation place on the land to the north. Rich Brasch
noted that the exemption request has been received and reiterated that if it doesn't go through the developer
will most likely lose two lots.
After further discussion, Lee Markell moved, George Kubik seconded with all members voting in favor
to make the following recommendations to the Advisory Planning Commission and City Council relative to St.
Charles Woods:
1. The developer would be responsible for a cash trails dedication. Staff is to work with the
developer relative to a trails dedication credit provided there are some cost efficiencies to
having the trail work done by the developer during construction.
2. The development would provide for an eight foot wide bituminous trail connection from the
cul-de-sac, through landscaping and/or berming which is to act as a buffer, to the park and
a 20 foot wide easement to accommodate the trail.
3. The developer's proposal to mitigate water quality impact on Pond AP-1 9 would be approved
subject to the specific review of a detailed plan and approved by City water resources staff
before issuance of final plat.
4. Filling or draining of any wetlands subject to regulation under the Wetlands Conservation Act
is prohibited.
5. The developer would be required to plant two Category B trees as mitigation for loss of
significant trees.
6. The City acknowledges the presence of significant trees on lots within the subdivision which
will require future developers to prepare individual lot tree preservation plans.
CLIFF LAKE TOWNHOMES
Commission Member Ken Tyler explained that he was abstaining from voting on this item since he
would be taking part in the discussion as a resident adjacent to this proposal.
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Project Planner Ridley explained that this was a proposal to construct 160 townhome units in 15
buildings on 22.9 acres located south of Meadowlands Park and the Highline Trail and north of Cliff Lake Road
between Blackhawk Road on the east and Rahn Road on the west. Mike continued that this parcel is part of
the Eagan Hills West PUD, proposed for R-4 development with a density of 12-16 units per acre.
Director Vraa stated this development is within Park Service District 30E serviced by Meadowlands
Park, Rahn Park and Rahn Athletic Fields. This development proposes to make a parks dedication of 4.79 acres
with a net dedication of 3.33 acres. This proposal intends to dedicate the land to the east which is adjacent
to another wetland and woodlands area and is identified as Outlot A. Staff feels a foot path is feasible through
the outlot with connection to the Highline Trail. The PUD has previously provided for a trail connection
between Cliff Lake Road to the Highline Trail. Director Vraa then reviewed some trail options with the
Commission noting that they may also want to consider a 5' wide trail rather than an 8' wide trail.
Water Resources Coordinator Brasch explained from this 23 acre development, Pond AP-23 will receive
runoff from about 4.5 acres of the site and continue down drainage to Pond AP-22, a scenic recreation water
body, although no stormwater from the site will be discharged directly to this pond. Staff is recommending
that Pond AP-23 be excavated to improve its pollutant removal efficiency to prevent additional degradation to
Pond AP-22. The amount of excavation required is estimated a 1.6 acre-feet.
Relative to wetlands, Rich continued that all or portions of three wetlands, totaling approximately 4.2
acres,lie within the proposed development and adjacent to the Highline Trail corridor. The developer's
consultant has delineated the boundaries of the wetlands, but staff has not received the necessary
documentation.
Forestry Supervisor Hove noted there is a total of 160 significant trees within the two wooded pockets
on site. A revised design has resulted in the reduction of tree loss from 53.8% of the 160 trees to 30%. Gregg
concluded that the 30% removal complies with the allowable tree removal from individual lots for site
preparation.
Mr. Ron Bastyr representing the developer noted that to provide a setback from the wetland they are
proposing a 4' retaining wall. If the buffer from the wetland is to be 15', the retaining wall would need to be
increased to 8'. He suggested that the developer place a silt fence with hay bales to mitigate impact to the
wetland.
Responding to a question regarding the architecture of the buildings, Mr. Bastyr stated the buildings
would be 2 story condominiums with vinyl siding. Their target market is expected to be empty nesters, college
graduates and working couples. Very few children are anticipated. Ron continued that the price range will
start at $60-70,000 and will be similar to the homes on Nicols and Diffley. Half the homes will have 2 car
garages with the balance having one car garages. Over flow parking will occur in front of the garages and on
the street. It was noted that this was a difficult project to place on this site and the developer is not proposing
to fill the wetland.
Ken Tyler, 4346 Fox Ridge Court, shared a concern for the entrance shown off Blackhawk Road
because it appears as though the build up of the road overlaps onto the Highline corridor. He suggested that
the road be realigned so as not to interfere with that corridor.
Mr. Bastyrexplained that the existing curb cut aligns with the wetlands. Because Blackhawk Road is
substantially higher, the road was placed as far north as possible to get the access as low as possible. It was
also noted that the previous proposal for this parcel showed the entrance off Cliff Lake Road which caused
significant impact to the wetlands and woodlands. The Advisory Commission at that time was not supportive
of that development because of the extensive impact from a proposed Cliff Lake Road access. Mr. Vraa
clarified that the 20 feet of grading which would occur for the access road is on road right-of-way. Mr. Bastyr
suggested that larger pines on the slope of the entrance road could be placed to mitigate impact on the Highline
corridor.
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Mr. Tyler addressed the trail concepts proposed for this site. He stated that Concept B which proposed
a trail loop from the Highline Trail around the pond and back to Meadowland Park was preferred by neighbors.
They felt that Concept A, which provided a trail loop from the Highline Trail through the development to Cliff
Lake Road, and then back up to the Highline Trail would result in greater tree loss.
Ken Tyler commented that the pond adjacent to the Highline trail near the proposed entrance has, at
times, flooded the Highline Trail in the past. If a maximum cap is placed on the pond, where one has not
been in the past, there is concern that the pond may become dry and create a negative impact. Mr. Brasch
responded that there may be a need to look at the contributing drainage area. The previous proposal for this
site showed a lateral with an outlet but Rich did not know who was responsible for the cost of the lateral.
Rob McCoy, 4345 Fox Ridge Court explained the Trail Concept B will complete the trail link to
Meadowlands Park for which he was in favor. He also noted that the pond was almost dry during the drought
and would recommend not placing a cap on it.
Margaret Tango, 4340 Fox Ridge Court explained she lived in the 5th house east of Blackhawk Road,
immediately adjacent to the Highline Trail. She stated her children play on the bike bath and is concerned
about the impact an access road in this location will have. She opined that the headlights from cars entering
this development will shine directly into her home and those homes immediately adjacent. She urged the
Commission to reconsider access from Cliff Lake Road. She felt this option would shield residents from cars
headlights as well as offer a safer access to the site. She too supported Concept B for a trail and urged that
additional landscape buffering be provided between Blackhawk and the Highline Trails if the access was going
to be there.
Ted Billy stated he preferred Trail Concept A which uses the existing sidewalk along Cliff Lake Road.
George Kubik stated he preferred a modification to Concept A which would bring people from the Highline
Trail, west of the pond, running south to Cliff Lake Road and then continuing to make the connection back to
the Highline Trail. Stephen Thompson asked how wide the trail would be. Mr. Vraa responded that a foot
path-5' or smaller- would be the best option. This would be a mowed path rather than a bituminous surface.
Mr. Thompson responded that he liked the modified Concept A (A-1) because it ties the neighborhood to the
shopping area.
Mr. Markell opined that the site looked very full. Mr. Bastyr responded that this is a difficult site to
work with because of the woods, topography and slopes. Mike Ridley added that the original proposal for this
site was for 230 units. Mr. Bastyr also noted that the original proposal proposed the removal of many more
trees and filled some wetlands
After further discussion, Stephen Thompson moved, George Kubik seconded with all members voting
in favor to make the following recommendations to the Advisory Planning Commission and City Council
relative to Cliff Lake Townhomes:
1. This plat would be subject to parks dedication requirement for open space defined as Outlot
A, Cliff Lake Homes consisting of approximately 4.79 acres.
2. The developer would be responsible for providing an eight foot bituminous trail connection
between Cliff Lake Road and the Highline Trial and a ten foot easement to the city to
accommodate this trail.
3. Vegetative screening, acceptable to staff, is to be provided at the entrance road of Blackhawk
Road and the Highline Trail to buffer the entrance from the neighbors to the north and west.
4. A cash trails dedication would be required.
5. The developer shall meet water quality requirements by excavation of 1.6 acre feet to Pond
AP-23.
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6. Filling or draining of wetlands shall be prohibited.
7. The developer is to provide a 15 foot ungraded buffer between the wetlands, where possible,
and/or erosion control methods approved by staff, between the wetlands and the development.
8. The City acknowledges that the tree preservation plan for this development meets City
guidelines and the developer will not be responsible for providing additional tree replacement
providing no additional trees are lost.
COMMUNITY FESTIVAL SURVEY RESULTS - WARMING SHELTERS
Superintendent of Recreation Peterson explained that survey questionnaires were provided at the
warming shelters on January 7 and 8, 1994. A total of 300 survey forms were issued to the warming shelters
and 136 were returned. The results of the survey concluded that if Parks and Recreation, the business
community, Chamber of Commerce, schools, churches and service organizations plan a community festival
celebrating the establishment of the Town of Eagan; that lasts between 3 hours and three days in the summer,
or maybe spring or fall, individuals would bring their families or take part themselves at a site where activities
are within walking distance to have fun, sample food and attend performances. They would also look for
fireworks, parades, a carnival and athletic contests. Only 8-18% of the 136 respondents would be willing to
plan organize and work at such an event. Dorothy concluded that with all the survey results in, staff is looking
for direction from the Commission on what the next step, if any, should be.
Ted Billy responded that given all the information that has been compiled by staff a good effort had
been made to determine the interest/need for a community festival. Since there has been no significant
response to pursuing this, Ted suggested that this be put to bed until there is more interest for involvement
expressed by the community. Lee Markell concurred. George Kubik noted there is not a clear picture of what
the community wants from the survey results. Stephen Thompson commented that there is a value to having
a community festival but felt that other organizations should come forward to help. George added that there
has been a large investment of time by staff on this item with no conclusive results from the community. The
Commission thanked Dorothy for the great job in researching and reporting on this issue.
ISTEA GRANT FUNDING
Superintendent VonDeLinde reviewed the background of this item noting the Commission had
recommended that staff proceed with a grant application for the development of a trailway connection and
enhancements between the City of Eagan trail system and the Minnesota River Valley network of trails. Last
year the application fell just a few points short of the funding cutoff. John explained that with the larger
regional trail projects being funded in 1993, the city anticipate a more favorable decision on it's application
this year. John then described all the trail connections that would be a part of this request along with a depot
building, signage and landscaping to complete this project.
George Kubik commented that this was a wonderful opportunity for the community and moved that
an application to the Metropolitan Council Transportation Advisory Board for federal cost sharing of trails
development and enhancements into the Minnesota River Valley underthe Federal ISTEA program be approved.
John Rudolph seconded the motion with all members voting in favor. Mr. Rudolph thanked staff for their efforts
in working toward these trail connections.
CARLSON LAKE
Mr. Brasch noted that 400 residents had received notification of a public meeting relative to an alum
treatment for Carlson Lake intended to reduce algae blooms in the lake which threaten the survival of the lake's
gamefish populations and compromise its recreational use and scenic qualities during the summer. Rich
continued that there was a relatively small turnout but everyone attending supported the effort that would be
made for education. One resident did express some concern for the aluminum content in alum and the
possibility of ingestion and did not support using chemicals to help with this problem.
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Lee Markell asked if the residents were aware that this was a one-time application and it would not
be done on a yearly basis. Rich responded that that had been clearly communicated.
After further discussion, George Kubik moved, Stephen Thompson seconded with all members voting
in favor to pursue an alum treatment for Carlson Lake this spring.
FISH LAKE BYPASS PROPOSAL
Water Resources Coordinator Brasch reviewed the issue of a bypass for Fish Lake overflows around
Pond )P-5 in the Kingswood 3rd Addition. He continued that the Natural Resources subcommittee had
reviewed this item at a workshop on February 14 and again prior to the Commission meeting of March 14.
The direction of the Natural Resources subcommittee on February 14 was to direct staff to proceed with the
option of providing the bypass along with the total excavation of 2.9 acre-feet for Pond JP-5 of which the
developer would be responsible for excavating .9 acre-feet rather than 1.2 acre-feet as was included in the
preliminary plat.
Mr. Brasch continued that after the February 14 meeting correspondence was sent to the developer with
a request that they respond by March 3 with any concerns so those concerns, if any, could be discussed by
the Commission on March 14. A written response was received from Mr. Horne's attorney on March 7
outlining 14 points they were concerned with.
The concerns expressed and the response from staff included:
1) The City pay for the construction of the bypass. Staff noted that this was included in the original
City proposal.
2) The bypass should stay within existing easements to the extent practicable. Staff noted that this was
included in the original City proposal.
3) No trees shall be removed and the City will pursue construction of siphon across bottom of pond.
Staff noted that the bypass siphon construction would be pursued but there may be some unavoidable tree loss
and to the maximum extent practicable, the loss of significant trees associated with the construction of the
bypass will be avoided.
4) The City will undertake at its cost excavation of Pond )P-5 required to reduce phosphorus
concentration to 150 ppb and excavation to be completed prior to June 1, 1995. Staff noted that the post-
bypass condition with 2 acre-feet of excavation is about 250 ppb and the amount of additional excavation
necessary to meet developer's in-pond goal of 150 ppb total phosphorus is far greater than the City is
proposing. Therefore, staff recommends against this condition.
5) Additional excavation of the southwest portion of Pond JP-5 will be done by the City and a
connection pipe installed. Staff noted that if the excavation of the pond in the southwest portion of Pond JP-5
cost effectively protects Blackhawk Lake, the City can consider whether to pursue it at this time, however it
should not be considered as mandatory.
6) All water quality dedication requirements in connection with the platting of Kingswood 3rd
Addition be waived by the City. Staff recommended against this condition since it is contrary to established
City policy regarding water quality mitigation applicable to all developments.
7) The lateral storm sewer benefit assessment proposed by the City for Kingswood 3rd Addition be
waived. Public Works Director Colbert indicated this condition may be acceptable only if the developer does
not use the lateral storm sewer.
8) Installation of an outlet skimmer and reconstruction of stormwater outlets as required by the City
be done by the City at City's expense. Staff noted this is the responsibility of the developer as a condition
of the approved preliminary plat.
9) City to install at it's own cost the storm drain from the present City property to Pond JP-5. Staff
noted that this is contrary to established City policy and the Director of Public Works is unwilling to consider
a change in this requirement.
10) The City will grant an easement to Horne across City property for sewer and water services as
previously shown. Director of Public Works does not see a problem with this proposal in concept but will
need to review and approve a detailed plan before a final decision.
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11) City shall allow berming on the north end of the property up to the evergreens currently in place.
Staff indicates they will be wiling to consider approval of the berm pending a review of more detailed
information on the proposal.
12) Horne will have the right of first refusal to any fill material removed from the pond by the City.
Staff feels this is a reasonable condition as long as it results in no delay or increased costs to the City for the
project.
13) The granting of easement construction rights herein will satisfy all park dedication requirements
of Kingswood 3rd Addition. Staff noted this is contrary to City policy and unacceptable.
14) City must indemnify Horne Development Corporation for any costs or damages in connection with
claims by current lot owners arising out of alleged degradation of the pond. Staff noted this is contrary to City
policy and unacceptable to staff.
After noting that this item had been reviewed thoroughly by the Natural Resources subcommittee,
Stephen Thompson moved, John Rudolph seconded with all members voting in favor to accept the following
staff recommendations relative to the bypass and excavation of Pond JP-5 within Kingswood 3rd Addition:
1. The City will pay for the construction of the bypass.
2. The bypass should stay within existing easements to the extent practicable.
3. The bypass siphon construction would be pursued but there may be some unavoidable tree loss
and to the maximum extent practicable, the loss of significant trees associated with the
construction of the bypass will be avoided.
4. The post-bypass condition with 2 acre-feet of excavation is about 250 ppb and the amount of
additional excavation necessary to meet developer's in-pond goal of 150 ppb total phosphorus
is far greater than the City is proposing. Therefore, this condition is not acceptable.
5. If the excavation of the pond in the southwest portion of Pond JP-5 cost effectively protects
Blackhawk Lake, the City can consider whether to pursue it at this time, however it should not
be considered as mandatory.
6. Staff recommends against the condition that all water quality dedication requirements in
connection with the platting of Kingswood 3rd Addition be waived by the City since it is
contrary to established City policy regarding water quality mitigation applicable to all
developments.
7. The lateral storm sewer benefit assessment proposed by the City for Kingswood 3rd Addition be
waived. Public Works Director indicated this condition is acceptable only if the developer does
not use the lateral storm sewer.
8. Installation of an outlet skimmer and reconstruction of stormwater outlets is the responsibility
of the developer as a condition of the approved preliminary plat.
9. The City's installation, at it's own cost, of the storm drain from the present City property to Pond
JP-5 is contrary to established City policy and the Director of Public Works is unwilling to
consider a change in this requirement.
10. Director of Public Works will review and approve a detailed plan before a final decision to grant
an easement to Horne Development across City property for sewer and water services as
previously shown.
11. City shall allow berming on the north end of the property up to the evergreens currently in
place. pending a review of more detailed information on the proposal.
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12. Horne will have the right of first refusal to any fill material removed from the pond by the City
as long as it results in no delay or increased costs to the City for the project.
13. The granting of easement construction rights to satisfy all park dedication requirements of
Kingswood 3rd Addition is contrary to City policy and unacceptable.
14. It is contrary to City policy and unacceptable to indemnify Horne Development Corporation for
any costs or damages in connection with claims by current lot owners arising out of alleged
degradation of the pond.
PARKS UPDATE
Parks Planner/Landscape Architect Lilly noted that Arbor Day would be at South Oaks Park on April
30. An oak woodland will be created at this park with picnic tables being placed throughout the wooded area.
Native grass and wildflowers will also be planted along the edge.
Director Vraa noted that the Lexington/Diffley Athletic Site plan is out for bid which will also include
Wescott Commons and Lexington Meadows. The bid opening will be March 30 with the bid being awarded
on April 5.
Ken also noted that the Blackhawk Park playground has had some revisions made to it. This
playground will be partially funded by the Rotary Club who will be 'adopting" this playground area. The
playground will be made from recycled material and will meet ADA requirements.
TRAILS MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT
DRAFT RESOLUTION FOR KIOSKS
Director Vraa stated that the County has asked the City to revise the current maintenance agreement
between them and various cities for the maintenance of the County bikeway trails. The County has also asked
that the City provide a Resolution stating that the County has met with the City of Eagan and the City is in
agreement with their proposed signage and kiosks.
Relative to the maintenance agreement, the County wants each City to submit a plan for review so that
some type of consistency can be maintained for the County trails.
After further discussion, George Kubik moved, Stephen Thompson seconded with all members voting
in favor to accept the maintenance agreement as presented.
George Kubik moved, Ted Billy seconded with all members voting in favor to accept the draft
Resolution as presented.
DEPARTMENT HAPPENINGS
Some of the items highlighted included the Bandy tournament on March 5, NYSCA coaches
clinic, recreation staff's involvement in 191 Academic Booster Club information fair, agreement to use Sentence
to Service program in 1994, Arbor Day presentations to 3rd graders and oak wilt public education brochure
which will be mailed in mid-March.
TREE PRESERVATION GUIDELINE CHANGES
Director Vraa explained that the Commission had asked to look at the guidelines for potential changes.
The packet information provides the existing guidelines and staff is soliciting input from the Commission relative
to their comments.
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After a brief discussion, the Commission felt that this should be addressed in greater detail by the
Natural Resources Sub-committee. The discussion would include such items as credits for single family lots
as was proposed by the developer of the Rooney Addition.
MISSION STATEMENT
This item was deferred to the April meeting.
EAGAN ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION REGISTRATION NUMBERS
Superintendent Peterson reviewed the registration numbers for EAA which included an increase of over
400 children in baseball and an increase of over 100 children in softball. Although there are an additional two
fields at Glacier Hills and one at Pinewood that is off-set by the probable loss of four fields at Unisys. The
bottom line is that there are not enough facilities to accommodate the growth of the youth programs in the City.
HOCKEY RINK REQUEST
Director Vraa explained that a request had been received for additional hockey rinks on the east side
of the City. The resident requesting a rink stated there are a disproportionate number of rinks on the west side
of Eagan with tremendous growth occurring on the east side.
George Kubik noted that each year rink usage is reviewed to see of changes need to be made. It was
suggested that this should also tie into the Park System Plan update process. Ted Billy also commented that
if there is an indoor ice facility constructed in the City that may also slant the need requests for outdoor ice
time.
The Commission asked staff to respond in writing to the hockey rink request, noting that the issue will
be addressed both at the annual review of rink participation and during the Park System Plan update process.
DAKOTA COUNTY PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Director Vraa noted that the County is organizing and Advisory Committee and will be sending copies
of the meeting agendas so the Advisory Commission will be kept up to date on what is happening within
Dakota County Parks.
With no further business to conduct, John Rudolph moved, Stephen Thompson seconded with all
members voting in favor to adjourn the meeting. The meeting was adjourned at 11:15 PM.
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