10/20/1997 - Advisory Parks & Recreation CommissionADVISORY PARKS COMMISSION
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER 20, 1997
A regular meeting of the Advisory Parks Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. on October
20, 1997 with the following Commission Members present: Terry Davis, Deny Farlee, N. Mark Filipi, Steven
Knutson, George Kubik, Lee Markell, Daryle Petersen, ]ohn Rudolph, Michael Vincent and Michael Zwiefel.
Commission Member Barbara ]ohnson was not present. Staff present included Dorothy Peterson,
Superintendent of Recreation; Paul Olson, Parks Superintendent; C] Lilly, Parks Planner/Landscape
Architect; Rich Brasch, Water Resources Coordinator; Gregg Hove, Forestry Supervisor; Shannon Tyree,
Planner; Pam Dudziak, Associate Planner and Cherry) Mesko, Secretary.
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Chairman Markell introduced and welcomed Michael Zwiefel, newly appointed alternate to the .
Commission.
APPROVAL Q~'AGEN
John Rudolph moved, Daryle Petersen seconded with ail members voting in favor to accept the
agenda as presented.
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Member Rudolph noted that he was not in attendance at the August 18 meeting as the minutes
reflected. Relative to the September 15 minutes, Member Petersen asked that Page 4, Paragraph 1,
Sentence 7 be changed to "Member Davis offered an amendment....". Petersen also asked that Page 4,
Paragraph 2, Sentence 3 be changed to "Member Kubik noted that this action.....".
Michael Vincent moved, Daryle Petersen seconded with ail members voting in favor to accept the
minutes of August 18, 1997 and September 15, 1997 as amended.
~IISITORS=TO Bf HE~eRI
There were no visitors that wished to be heard under this agenda item.
DEPAR~NT IFIAP~EN
Forestry Supervisor Hove directed the Commission to a new brochure recently created by the
Forestry Division. The brochure (Trees and the Construction Process) was designed to help homeowners and
builders to minimize tree and root damage during construction. There are separate portions of the brochure
designated for the builder, the homeowner and the community. Copies are available at Central Maintenance
and the Municipal Center, Hove added.
Department Happenings highlighted by Superintendent Peterson included increase in non-resident
participation of recreation activities, review of 1998 calendar time lines for the brochure, upcoming MRPA
state conference where Loudi Rivamonti, Rich Brasch and Gregg Hove will be presenters, and upcoming
influenza immunization clinic. Superintendent Olson talked about restrooms being closed for the season,
buildings being winterized for the year and installation of a new play structure at Deerwood Elementary.
Superintendent Peterson added that a McCormick Cub tractor was donated to the Friends of the Farm,
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Lone Oak Days was a successful event with an estimated 2,000 people attending and that advertising has
begun for warming shelter supervisors. Superintendent Olson concluded with a special thank you to the
maintenance staff including Don Buecksler, Dan Curtin, Scott Eppen, Steve Hadden, Alex Lammers, Gary
Skogstad and Paul Watry supervised by Paul Graham and Steve Taylor.
GONS~NT-AGENDA
Michael Vincent moved, Terry Davis seconded with all members voting in favor to make the
following recommendations to the City Council:
1. Murphy Farm 2nd Addition - Springbrook Corporation
• This development shall be responsible for a cash trails dedication.
• Individual Lot Tree Preservation Plans will be required for Lots 1, 2 and 3 at the time of
building permit application. No tree removal or grading can occur prior to approval of
the submitted Tree Preservation Plan.
• Tree Protective measures (i.e. 4 foot polyethylene laminate safety netting) shall be
installed at the Drip Line or at the perimeter of the Critical Root Zone, whichever is
greater of significant trees/woodlands to be preserved during individual lot
development.
• The applicant shall be required to contact the City Forestry Division at least five days
prior to the issuance of the grading permit to ensure compliance with the approved
Tree Preservation Plan.
• This development shall be subject to a cash water quality dedication.
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PiNETREE PASS - LIINDGREN BROS. CONSTRlICT10N
Following a brief introduction by Superintendent Olson, Planner Tyree provided background for this
proposed development. Tyree stated that Lundgren Brothers is proposing a Rezoning of approximately 75
acres from Agriculture to R-l, Single Family, and a Preliminary Subdivision of 129 lots and 4 outlots. The
site is located south of Cliff Road, west of Walden Drive, Lane and Park, east of Cambridge Drive and
Covington Lane and north of Wellington Way, in the NE 1 /4 of Section 33. It was noted that the single
family lots average 15,800 s.f. with an overall gross density of 1.8 units per acre. Access to the site is from
a proposed southerly extension of Thomas Lake Road from Cliff Road, four connections to Covington and
one from Walden Lane. Tyree concluded by stating that this item will appear before the Advisory Planning
Commission on October 28.
Water Resources Coordinator Brasch stated that Pond BLP-6, a designated nutrient trap is located in
the southern portion of this site. This pond discharges through a lift station to a small sediment basin north
of Cliff Road (BP-12) which then discharges to Thomas Lake. Brasch noted that in earlier site development
proposals the developer had proposed grading treatment ponds to treat water prior to discharge to Pond
BLP-6. Staff, however is suggesting that the normal water level of BLP-6 be raised from its normal water
level of 892 to 898. This option would satisfy water quality treatment requirement and would create a
more esthetic amenity. The higher normal water elevation would also maintain pond areas deep enough to
be permanentty free of emergent vegetation while the gentle side slopes associated with the existing
topography and reduced water level fluctuations should allow development of a solid emergent fringe.
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Forestry Supervisor Hove explained that the majority of the vegetation is on the south 1 /3 of the
property. He went on to describe the variety of species present. Hove then stated that since the report was
written a revised tree preservation plan has been received with several changes from what was presented to
the Commission. The revised inventory consisted of 849 significant trees. Site preparation during initial
phase development would result in the removal of 286 (33.7% of the total) significant trees. Hove
explained that during the initial phase of this two-phase, residential, multiple lot development, 2596 of the
existing significant vegetation can be removed. An additional 2096 can then be removed during the second
phase of individual lot development. The developer can also choose to perform total site preparation which,
in this case, would allow the removal of 40% of the significant vegetation. Hove added that the applicant is
proposing to perform site preparation on 111 (86%) of the sites 129 lots. The allowable removal limits for
the initial development stage has been set at 37.9% (321 trees). Since the development proposes significant
tree removal at 33.7% (37.9% is allowed) there is no tree preservation mitigation. The revised plan
proposes to custom grade the remaining 18 lots in the south 1 /3 of the site which will require an Individual
Lot Tree Preservation Plan at the time of Building Permit application.
Member Markell asked about the concept of applying conservation easements in areas where trees
will be preserved. Supervisor Hove indicated that this issue had been approached with the developer and
could be discussed further if necessary.
Superintendent Olson explained that this 72 acre development would be responsible fora 7.2 acre
dedication. The developer has proposed to dedicate 3.2 acres for parkland with the balance in cash.
As background, Superintendent Olson stated that the development is in Park Service Area 33 which
is bounded by Cliff Road to the north, Pilot Knob to the east, Johnny Cake Ridge Road to the west and
Dakota County's Lebanon Regional Park to the south. Currently there are 762 households in this service
area with an additional 150± projected at full build out. This represents a potential estimated population of
2,500±. Olson noted that the Parks Master Plan identifies a typical neighborhood park to be 8-12 useable
acres in size. When Walden Heights was developed, 4.5 acres were dedicated for parkland. It was planned
that additional parkland would be dedicated when the Brown property to the west was developed.
Superintendent Olson then identified components typically considered for neighborhood parks
including ballfield, soccer field, open play area, playground (10,000 s.f.), volleyball, trail (8 ft. wide at 596
slope), parking (18-22), unmaintained area, sliding hill, park entrance, preservation of existing condition,
play court, picnic area/sun shelter, pedestrian access, security light and sensitivity to neighbors. Olson briefly
reviewed the developer's proposal that showed a 3.2 acre land dedication with the balance of parks
dedication to be cash.
Several concepts for park development were shared with residents on October 14. Concept Plan A,
which used the developer's proposal for land dedication showed minimal park development and a "walk-in"
access from the street. This plan also incorporated the ponding area on the southern portion of the site as a
private area for the future residenu of Pinetree Pass. Concept Plans B and C showed park development using
some of the proposed Pinetree Pass lots to help meet the 7.2 acre parkland dedication. These plans also
showed trail access to the ponding area the developer has proposed for private use. Superintendent Olson
concluded that the developer has expressed his desire to take the proposed development with the 3.2 acre
land dedication, as is, through the process to the City Council.
Bill Anner, representing Lundgren Brothers began by explaining that their company has been in the
business for the past 27 years and is the 4-5th largest builder in the Twin Cities. Their goal during
development is to develop parks and amenities that homeowners' associations can benefit from. Mr. Anner
clarified that they have not agreed to a conservation easement relative to tree preservation as had been
mentioned previously. They do like the concept for increasing the water level of the ponds, however, they
are still investigating this option to see if permits can be obtained since it is wetlands that will be flooded.
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Mr. Anner continued that the Browns had several options to sell their property but selected
Lundgren Brothers because they were proposing a single family development. He stated that early in the
development Lundgren had met with the Parks Department and were told they wanted a mirror image of the
existing park property. He said it appears that there is some confusion as to what land should actually be
parkland. Anner stated that at both the developer's meeting and the park planning meeting many people
said they wanted passive space but there was no consensus as to what should be in the park. He also noted
that the economic viability of park concept B or C would compromise the project. Typically in their
developments the lots run down to the center of the pond. In this case, Anner continued, the homeowners
association will own the ponding similar to a common area that many multi-family developments have.
Anner concluded by stating that their proposal is a viable option and if they are not allowed to develop this
proposal the neighborhood may see commercial or multi-family development on this site.
Member Markel) asked how much land in the "common area" was above the high water level. Mr.
Anner responded approximately 3-3.5 acres. Markel) then asked how the use of the open space would be
monitored. Mr. Anner stated it was more of an insurance issue since the association would be responsible for
that area. He added that there is the option of placing a trail between the ponds once the water level is
raised but it would still remain in the ownership of the homeowners association.
Superintendent Olson noted that feedback forms had been returned from residents who attended
the park planning meeting. The forms received to date have indicated a preference for Concept C Olson
stated. This item will appear on the October 28 Advisory Planning Commission agenda and the November
18 City Council agenda, Olson added.
Paul Cero, 4876 Richard Lane stated that he would use this park adding that the City has excellent
parks. He did agree that there were many parks in Eagan but accessibility was an issue for his children.
Bounded by major streets, this neighborhood is required to drive their children to a park and Mr. Cero
opined that a park that can be used by everyone is critical to maintain a sense of neighborhood. He added
that neither the existing neighborhood nor the community would benefit from a "private park". He opined
that neighbors surrounding this development would be uncomfortable going through the "private area" and
that the homeowners association would have the legal right to keep non-association members out. Cero
concluded that he would rather wait for another development to come through than to rush into a park
development that would not serve the neighborhood, as the developer has proposed.
Dennis Beckley, 1465 Thomas. Lane stated that the consensus of the neighborhood is simply that
there is not enough land proposed for a park, not necessarily that it be active or passive. He then expressed
his concern that the water quality of Thomas Lake not be impacted from this proposed development.
Coordinator Brasch responded that on-site ponding will protect Thomas Lake.
Steve Yahn, 1467 Thomas Lane agreed that the existing Walden Heights Pond park was
topographically challenged. He expressed his concern for what appears to be a zeal to wedge so many
activities into the park property. He stated his preference for leaving the park open and natural, size and
location as proposed by the developer.
Annette Degnan, 4612 Cambridge Drive explained that they built their home in 1983 and have
been waiting a long time for this park. Although they are not big users of organized space they understand
the need to provide that for residents. She agreed that all the componenu talked about may not be
appropriate for this park but reiterated the need for a park that the entire park service area can access.
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Member Vincent noted that in looking at the proposal as presented the only agreement heard from
residents is that more land is needed for this park. Once the issue of sufficient parkland has been addressed
then more specific ideas can be incorporated into a park plan.
Member Rudolph stated that although there are differences of opinion relative to this being a natural
or developed park the constant element expressed by residents in this area is that there should not be a
private park. Rudolph opined that this development does not meet the concerns expressed.
After further brief discussion, John Rudolph moved, Terry Davis seconded with all members voting
in favor to recommend that the 3.2 acre parkland dedication, as proposed by the developer, is not sufficient,
therefore is not acceptable.
Terry Davis moved, Daryle Petersen seconded with all members voting in favor to make the
following recommendations to the City Council relative to Pinetree Pass:
1. Individual Lot Tree Preservation Plans will be required for the following lou at the time of
building permit application:
Block 5: Lots 10, 11, 12
Block 8: Lots 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14
Block 10: Lots 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
2. Tree Protective measures (i.e. 4 foot polyethylene laminate safety netting) shall be required to
be installed at the Drip Line or at the perimeter of the Critical Root Zone, whichever is greater,
of significant trees/woodlands to be preserved during both initial site development and individual
lot development.
3. Grading and tree preservation plans shall be reviewed with the City Forestry Division before each
phase of the project.
4. The applicant shall contact the City Forestry Division at least five days prior to the issuance of
the grading permit to ensure compliance with the approved Tree Preservation Plan.
5. The developer shall meet water quality treatment requirements entirely through on-site ponding
by raising the normal water level of Pond BLP-6 to an elevation of 898 MSL. The pond design,
including shaping, clearing/grubbing, and re-laying of pipe, should be approved by the water
resources coordinator.
6. Filling or draining of the two jurisdictional wetlands on the site is prohibited.
BCBSM EAST ADDITION -DELTA DENTAL
Planner Tyree explained that Blue Cross Blue Shield Minnesota, Inc is requesting a Preliminary
Subdivision consisting of one lot on 16.17 acres and two outlots on 27.131 acres. Delta Dental is
proposing to move its corporate headquarters to this location located at the NE intersection of Blue Cross
Road and Ashbury Road in the NE 1 /4 of Section 17 and the N/W 1 /4 of Section 16. The plan indicates
the two phase development of a 126,000 s.f. three story office building and 332, 9' parking stalls with
Phase I and 312 parking stalls with Phase II. Access is proposed from Blue Cross Road and Ashbury Road.
It is anticipated that Phase 1 will occur in the spring of 1998 and Phase II sometime in 2003 or 2004, Tyree
concluded.
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Superintendent Olson stated that the parks dedication has been fulfilled with the dedication of Sky
Hill Park but that the development would be responsible for a cash trails dedication. Forestry Supervisor
Hove reviewed the tree preservation issues noting that of the 102 significant trees on site 25 would be
removed. Since this is 24.5% of the 30% alalowable removal for this development there is not tree
preservation mitigation, Hove concluded.
Water Resources Coordintor Brasch explained that runoff from this development will discharge to Pond CP-6
and eventually to Pond CP-9 a flooded gravel pit in Ft. Snelling State Park. Because the site is not suitable
for construction of a detention basin that meets City standards, staff proposes the use of a landscaped
extended detention basin and drain system to promote infiltration of parking lot runoff for this site in order
to address water quality and storm water routing concerns. To the extent that an infiltration system is not
sufficient to satisfy treatment requirements, a cash dedication would be required.
Ken Horns representing Delta Dental stated they had looked at siting the building to preserve as
much vegetation as possible. The southwest corner appeared to be the best location. The developer agrees
with recommendations made by staff relative to trails dedication, tree preservation and the fact that storm
water detention doesn't fit on the site easily without losing trees. They will be researching the option for
infiltration further.
Member Vincent commented on the amount of parking shown for this development. Mr. Horns
responded that they are providing parking as required by the City. They have discussed the option of
deleting the smaller east parking area and incorporating it into the existing lot. Another option that can be
pursued is to show proof of parking and only put in what is actually needed at this time. Planner Tyree
added that proof of parking is typical for a plan this size. The City wants to make sure parking is available if
the owner of the building changes.
Member Kubik asked if there would be plantings within the parking lot. Planner Tyree responded
that developers are required to provide 5% of the parking area with plantings.
Following further brief discussion, Michael Vincent moved, George Kubik seconded with all
members voting in favor to make the following recommendations to the City Council relative to BCBSM East
Addition -Delta Dental:
1. This development shall be responsible for a cash trails dedication.
2. Tree Protective measures (i.e. 4 foot polyethylene laminate safety netting) shall be required to
be installed at the Drip Line or at the perimeter of the Critical Root Zone, whichever is greater,
of significant trees/woodlands to be preserved during initial site development.
3. To require that the applicant contact the City Forestry Division at least five days prior to the
issuance of the grading permit to ensure compliance with the approved Tree Preservation Plan
4. The developer shall meet water quality mitigation requirements through construction of features
designed to promote infiltration of runoff from parking areas of the site. To the extent that the
infiltration features are inadequate to meet the removal effectiveness of a conventional NURP
basin, a cash dedication will be required.
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EAGAN SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY-JOHN B. GOODMAN LTD. PARTNERSHIP
Associate Planner Dudziak explained that ]ohn B. Goodman Limited Partnership is requesting a
Preliminary Subdivision to create two lots on 6.53 acres. The proposal includes demolitoin of the existing
Eagandale Atheltic Ciub building and redevelopment of the site with a Sidney's restaurant and a senior
retirement center consisting of 151 independent and assisted housing units. The restaurant would be located
in the northwest portion of the site adjacent to Pilot Knob Raod and the senior housing favility would be
located on the eastern portion of the site.
Superintendent Olson stated that this development would be responsible for a cash parks dedication
and for installing a trail on the south side of Marice Drive to Sherman Court.
Supervisor Hove noted there are 3 significant trees on site and 51,900 square feet of significant
woodlands. Site preparation for this development as proposed will removal 100% of the significant trees
and woodlands which substantially exceeds the 47.5% allowed. The mitigation for this proposal calculates to
1 14 Category B trees or a cash mitigation of $34,200.00. Hove continued that the developer has
submitted alandscape/tree mitigation plan that fulfills the Tree Preservation mitigation requirements with a
combination of tree installation and cash payment.
Coordinator Brasch explained that runoff from this development will discharge to a large sediment
basin on the Unisys property to the west. Currently this pond discharges to Pond CP-9, a flooded gravel pin
in Ft. Snelling Park designated as a recreational water body. The developer proposes to meet al water quality
mitigation requirements through on-site ponding and Brasch noted that there are no jurisdictional wetlands
on the site.
John Bunker representing John B. Goodman Ltd. explained that the senior living facility will be a
flagship site to bring investor to see. Member Petersen asked if the developer agreed with the trail
recommendations. Mr. Bunker responded that they do. Member Davis asked if all parking would be above
ground. Bunker responded that 42 parking spaces would be underground. The owners prefer more green
space over parking. Member Kubik asked if there was open space provided for the seniors. Bunker
responded that the interior of the building would provide a 4 story atrium with several services provided on
the first floor. He continued that residents are typically in the 70-85 year old range in this congregate living
facility. Member Kubik expressed concern that Pilot Knob is the nearest park to these folks. Mr. Bunker
responded that they typically add nature or walking trails at their sites for the residents to use if they wish.
Michael Vincent moved, Daryle Petersen seconded with all members voting in favor to make the
following recommendations to the City Council relative to EaganSenior Living Community - ]ohn B.
Goodman Ltd.
1. This development shall be responsible for a cash parks dedication.
2. This development shall be responsible for installing a trail on the south side of Marice Drive
to Sherman Court.
3. A revised Tree Preservation Plan shall be submitted for staff review which will include details
as to how tree preservation mitigation will be fulfilled.
4. This development shall meet its water quality mitigation requirements entirely through on-
site ponding and the pond design shall be approved by the City's water resources
coordinator.
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OLD. BLISII~ES
KIOSK UPDATE
Superintendent Peterson reminded the Commission that they had referred review of trails
information kiosks to the Recreation Subcommittee after intern Craig Walters presented his report in August.
The subcommittee agreed that the objective was to provide trail information at key locations in the city.
They prioritized kiosk locations at Silver Bell Road at Highway 13, Pilot Knob Road at the Highline Trail,
Nicols and Dodd Road ends of the Highline Trail, Pilot Knob Road at 494 and the existing kiosk at Pilot
Knob and Cliff Roads. After reviewing various kiosk designs, the consensus of the subcommittee was to
customize arched playground posts for the framework of the kiosk to offer a more attractive and playful
appearance.
Landscape Architect/Parks Planner Lilly then reviewed issues identified for incorporation into kiosk
design including attractiveness, durability, vandal resistance, and quality of graphics. The initial design used
painted Landscape Structures tubing formed into either a single arch or double arch, 10 feet tall and 3 feet
wide. The signage area would be either 3' x 4' or 3' x 2' with an 1 /8" Lexan cover over the graphic. This
type of cover could be easily removed and replaced in the case of vandalism or normal wear and tear. Lilly
then reviewed the options for placing the graphics on the sign. This can be accomplished through EFA with
a product available in limited colors. Their staff can do the graphics work at a rate of $165/hour or the
graphics can be done internally. It is anticipated that it would be most cost effective to do the work
internally using the GIS capabilities the city has. Vomela has a vinyl screened product used by Hennepin
Parks, however, it is approximately 32% more expensive than the EFA signage product Lilly stated. In
reviewing total cost options, a single arch kiosk with no roof, using EFA for the two faced logo and mat,
graphics and installation done in-house would cost approximately $1,250 per kiosk. Double arch design
would cost $2,500 per kiosk. Using the Vomela product would cost $1,850 for a single arch and $1,650
for a double arch kiosk design.
Member Kubik asked if removable pamphlets and consideration for visually impaired people would
be incorporated in the design. Planner Lilly responded that accommodation for pamphlets was considered but
addressing visually impaired issues would need to be explored.
Member Markel) asked if grants dollars were available for this project. Planner Lilly stated that kiosks
placed on county roads would be eligible for cost sharing with the county. Member Petersen suggested
pursuing the option of private funding for some of the kiosks.
After further discussion, Michael Vincent moved, George Kubik seconded with all members voting
in favor to recommend that staff proceed to the design/development phase of kiosk signage using the EFA,
single arch design.
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SHORELAND ZONING REGULATIONS
Coordinator Brasch stated that the City Council recently reviewed proposed revisions to the City's
Shoreland Zoning ordinance and directed staff to review several of the revisions with the Parks Commission.
Generally the ordinance regulates use of the shoreline as well as use within a zone extending back 1000 feet
from the ordinary high water level of the water bodies identified in the ordinance. Eight of the 24 lakes
identified are within Lebanon Hills Park and one within Ft. Snelling Park. All but two are classified
recreational water bodies in the City's water quality management plan.
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The first change proposed was that the minimum lot size within the shoreland zone that are served
by a septic tank and drainfield was reduced from 10 acres down to 80,000 square feet for shoreline lots and
40,000 square feet for lots that do not have shoreline frontage but line within the 1,000 foot shoreland
zone. The second change made clear that the minimum lot width requirements must be met at the shoreline
as well as at the building line. The third change specified storm water treatment requirements for
developments within the shoreland zone and made them consistent with the requirements in Fagan's water
quality management plan. The fourth change prohibited commercial, industrial and multi-family residential
uses within the shoreland zones of natural environment lakes and within unsewered shoreland areas of other
protected lakes.
Member Petersen questioned the minimum lot width at the shoreline as well as the building line.
Coordinator Brasch clarified that the intention was to eliminate pie shaped lots. Member Filipi asked how
likely septic tanks and drainfields would be installed on shoreline lots. Brash responded that there are very
few in existence. Member Filipi expressed his concern for cutting back the size under any circumstances.
After further brief discussion, Michael Vincent moved, Michael Zwiefel seconded with all members
voting in favor to accept the revisions as presented regarding the acceptability of the proposed revisions to
the shoreland Zoning Ordinance.
Bl1DGET UPDATE
Superintendent Peterson explained that during the budget process staff is directed by the Council to
submit a no growth, 5% decrease, 5% increase, and no limit budget proposals. The City Administrator then
made his recommendation fora 3.5°~ overall department budget increase to the Council. Following the
August 26 workshop, the Council requested additional information about boulevard mowing and directed
staff to identify means to close the gap between Recreation revenue and expenses.
At a workshop on September 30 the Council reviewed boulevard mowing and decided to make no
change in the budget at this time. As they reviewed the issue of closing the gap between recreation revenue
and expenses they focused their attention on entrepreneurial opportunities rather than cutting back on
existing programs. Peterson noted that the September 23, 1997 memo identified several potential
opportunities for the Council to consider. Staff was directed to look into these opportunities and bring them
to the Advisory Commission and Council for further consideration and direction. Superintendent Peterson
concluded that the goal is to bridge the gap during the next 7-8 years.
Member Markell asked if the entire Commission should hold a workshop for this issue or if the
Recreation Subcommittee could handle it. Superintendent Peterson responded that the Recreation
Subcommittee could continue working on this issue and bring it back to the Commission. Member Davis
reminded the Commission that they had identified entrepreneurial opportunities during their CIP review.
Superintendent Peterson added that this is being presented to the Commission for informational purposes
only.
PARKS DEVELOPMENT~DATE
Items reviewed by Planner Lilly included completion of landscaping around Trapp Farm Park
,Thomas Lake Park and Lexington Diffley Athletic entrance signage. He also noted that the parking lot
expansion at Lexington Diffiey Athletic has begun with an anticipated completion date of November 3.
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W,pTER RESOURCES UPDATE
WETLAND ASSESSMENT PROJECT -DATA PRESENTATION
Water Resources Coordinator Brasch explained that the project participants were asking for feedback
from their efforts to collect data and rate wetland quality. A meeting was proposed for the Advisory Parks
Commission and Advisory Planning Commission to solicit that feedback. The Planning Commission workshop
is scheduled for Thursday, November 13 and Commission members agreed that would be a good time to
meet. The meeting was set for 5:30 - 6:30 p.m.
OTHER BU ESS AND REPORT"5
SUB-COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS
Chairman Markell asked which subcommittees the new members wished to serve on. Member
Knutson requested the Recreation Subcommittee, Members Filipi and Zwiefel requested the Natural
Resources Subcommittee and Member Vincent asked to serve on the Nawral Resources Subcommittee also.
SUB-COMMITTEE REPORTS
There were no subcommittee reports.
SKYLINE DISPLAYS ATTACHMENT
Superintendent Peterson brought the Commission's attention to information provided by Skyline
Display. Their business is currently located in Burnsville and they have recently purchased property from
Dart Transit on the northeast corner of Yankee Doodle Road and Lexington Avenue. They have expressed a
desire to work on a park project as part of their development similar to the project they initiated in
Burnsville; Skyland Park on Cliff Road. Skyline has begun discussions with the Department relative to this
potential development, Peterson continued. Director Vraa has asked that a member of the Commission be
appointed to serve on this planning committee and that an alternate be selected also. After a brief
discussion, ]ohn Rudolph volunteered to serve as the Commission representative with Michael Vincent
serving as the alternate.
~tOUNQ TABLB
Member Rudolph shared a call he received following the Commission's September discussion with
the Craigs relative to the encroachment into Wandering Walk Park. He stated the caller shared her
perspective on the situation and how the Commission had resolved it. Commission members agreed that this
is the kind of input that is helpful. Member Davis asked for an update on the Craig's situation.
Superintendent Olson stated that they have begun to remove the playground structure as directed by the
Commission.
Member Kubik asked if staff would consider doing a maintenance demonstration in the spring to
make the Commission more familiar with equipment and procedures for parks maintenance. Superintendent
Olson stated that staff would be happy to provide that information to the Commission.
AD]OURNM T
With no further business to conduct, John Rudolph moved, Michael Vincent seconded with all
members voting in favor to adjourn the meeting. The meeting was adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
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