05/18/1998 - Advisory Parks & Recreation CommissionADVISORY PARKS COMMISSION
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF MAY 18, 1998
The regular meeting of the Advisory Parks and Recreation Commission was called to order on
May 18, 1998 with the following Commission Members present: Terry Davis, Barbara Johnson, Bonnie
Karson, George Kubik, Lee Markell, Daryle Petersen, and John Rudolph. Members not present included
Jerry Farlee, N. Mazk Filipi and Michael Vincent. Staff present included Ken Vraa, Director of Pazks and
Recreation; Dorothy Peterson, Superintendent of Recreation; Paul Olson, Parks Superintendent; CJ Lilly,
Pazks Planner/Landscape Architect; Rich Brasch, Water Resources Coordinator; Gregg Hove, Forestry
Supervisor and Cherryl Mesko, Secretary.
AGENDA
George Kubik moved, Terry Davis seconded with all members voting in favor to accept the
agenda as presented.
NIINUT~S OF REGULAR 1'1~IE~`ll~lC OF APRIL 21, i
George Kubik moved, John Rudolph seconded with all members voting in favor to accept the
minutes of the regular meeting of Apri121, 1998 as presented.
DEPARTMENT HAPPI~NING
Items highlighted by Director Vraa included the May 4 public meeting to discuss trail clearing in
the winter, near completion of weed spraying the major park areas, play structure installation at River Hills
Park, completion of the 4-year prairie restoration management plan at Thomas Lake Pazk, distribution of
the Summer/Fall brochure, 200 youth participants at the annual baseball clinic, 300 youth participants at
the annual softball clinic, the beginning of EAA summer sports, the slight decline in sand volleyball team
registrations and the first yeaz of Cricket being played at Walnut Hill Park.
Member Mazkell asked how many hours of work aze provided by the Sentence to Serve work crews.
Hundreds, Superintendent Olson responded. Member Kubik commented on the successful Arbor Day
celebration. Member Petersen asked if responses had been compiled relative to the trail clearing survey.
Director Vraa responded that the Public Works Department is compiling that information.
CONSENT AGENDA
There were no consent items for the Commission to review.
'DEVLEJ-PMENT P. _.~ ~A
LEXINGTON 2ND ADDITION -HOME DEPOT
Coordinator Brasch provided a brief background of this item noting that Home Depot, U.S.A. is
proposing to build a 132,000 square foot retail store on a site located west of Lexington Avenue at
Northwood Parkway, south of the USPS bulk mail facility in the SE 1/4 of Section 10,
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Relative to water quality, Brash noted that this development is located in the LeMay Lake
watershed just north of Eagan Promenade and east of 35E. Runoff from this site will travel through a
number of already constructed nutrient traps before reaching LeMay Lake, which is one of the City's seven
Class I water bodies. The wetland inventory for the site shows two wetland complexes; a .62 acre Type 2/6
in the northcentral portion of the site and a 3.25 acre which occupies much of the southeast portion of the
pazcel. The developer is proposing to fill all of the .62 acre wetland (16% of the wetland area on the
site).Given the location of the wetland near the central portion of the site, the guided land use and the fact
that less than 20% of the jurisdictional wetland area on-site will be filled, and Brasch noted that an
unavoidable impact funding would seem reasonable.
Per the Minnesota Wetland Conservation Act, Brasch explained that a minimum of 1.14 acres of
additional wetland credit must be generated to meet the mitigation requirements. The developer proposes
to use a rough graded azea just south of, and contiguous with the lazge wetland in the southeastern corner
of the site.
After further discussion, Lee Mazkell moved, Barbara Johnson seconded with all members voting
in favor to make the following recommendations the City Council relative to Lexington 2"d Addition -
Home Depot:
1. This development shall be responsible for a cash parks dedication and a cash trails dedication.
2. The Tree Preservation Plan shall be approved as proposed with the following conditions:
• The applicant shall install sixteen (16) Category B mitigation trees, (or an equivalent
combination of Category A or Category C trees). These 16 mitigation trees are in
addition to any City of Eagan landscape requirements.
• Tree Protective measures (i.e. orange fabric silt fence or 4-foot polyethylene laminate
safety netting) shall be installed at the perimeter of the Critical Root Zone of significant
trees/woodlands to be preserved. No grade change, construction activity, or storage of
materials shall occur within this fenced area.
• The applicant shall contact the City Forestry Division at least five days prior to the
issuance of the grading permit to ensure compliance with the approved Tree Preservation
Plan.
• Grading plans for the utility easement azeas shall be reviewed by the Forestry Division
for tree preservation mitigation.
3. The developer shall meet water quality mitigation requirements entirely through on-site
pondmg. The pond should have a minimum wet volume of 2.3 acre-feet and shall meet the
City's Detention Basin Design Standards.
4. The wetland mitigation plan dated May, 1998 should be approved, assuming the allowable
development intensity allowed on the site will be decreased by the City.
5. The upland buffer azound the remaining jurisdictional wetland (Pond DP-6.2) should be
extended a minimum distance of 30 feet back from the delineated edge of the wetland.
6. It is recommended that the pazking be reduced by 5-10% with the removal proposed on the
eastern portion of the site to allow for the 30 foot wetland buffer.
BLACKHAWK ACRES 5TH ADDITION - MENDOTA HOMES, INC.
Director Vraa introduced this item noting that Mendota Homes is requesting a Preliminary
Subdivision to create four lots for the construction of two two-unit townhomes on property currently
platted as Outlot A, Blackhawk Acres 2nd Addition east of Robin Lane.
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Coordinator Brasch explained that this development is adjacent to Pond AP-27 and in drainage
basin A downstream from Blackhawk Lake. Because the wetland associated with Pond AP-27 is lazge and
a designated recreational water body, an ungraded, un-maintained buffer extending 30 feet back from the
edge of the wetland is being recommended. The revised grading plan, however, shows filling of about 800
square feet of the jurisdictional wetland. This issue for Commission consideration is whether to
recommend to the City Council that the 30 foot wide buffer be required, which would cause significant
alteration of the development plan, or omit the buffer condition.
Forestry Supervisor Hove stated that there are 17 significant trees identified in the tree inventory.
The application as submitted will result in the removal of three significant trees (40%) which is less than
allowable limits, therefore there is no required tree mitigation
The representative from Mendota Homes stated that they are proposing to build two, two unit
townhomes. They are hoping to provide a transition between the two buildings and by doing so it places
one of the buildings within the 30 foot upland buffer area. The only way to prevent that would be to
connect the two buildings.
Member Markell asked what the land use was between the two buildings. The developer
responded that it was open space and that by separating the 4 units into two buildings it provided a logical
transition to the adjacent single family properties. Several options were discussed relative to moving
buildings to the west to maintain the buffer zone as well as leaving the buildings where they are.
Coordinator Brasch interjected that a combination of landscaping for wildlife habitat and native grasses
could be incorporated into the plan if the Commission allowed the buildings to stay where they're currently
located. Member Kubik thought it would be appropriate to look at tis type of landscaping as long as the
developer worked closely with staff to make sure the area was protected as much as possible. Member
Davis added that by keeping the area in natural grasses it would catch the run-off from the home before
getting into the wetland.
After further discussion, Daryle Petersen moved, Terry Davis seconded with all members voting
in favor to make the following recommendations to the City Council relative to Blackhawk Acres 5~'
Addition -Mendota Homes, Inc.:
1. This proposal shall be subject to a cash parks dedication and a cash trails dedication.
2. The Tree Preservation Plan shall be approved as proposed with the following conditions:
• Tree Protective measures (i.e. orange fabric silt fence or 4-foot polyethylene laminate
safety netting) shall be installed at the perimeter of the Critical Root Zone of significant
trees/woodlands to be preserved. No grade change, construction activity, or storage of
materials shall occur within this fenced area.
• The applicant shall contact the City Forestry Division at least five days prior to the
issuance of the grading permit to ensure compliance with the approved Tree Preservation
Plan.
3. The development shall be subject to a cash dedication in lieu of on-site ponding.
4. The developer shall work with staff to preserve an upland buffer extending 30 feet back from
the edge of the jurisdictional wetland.
5. The developer shall bear the cost of vegetating the upland buffer as approved by staff and will
advise potential owners that the area is to be maintained as such.
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OLD BUSINESS
TEENS
Director Vraa noted that at the Apri120 Commission meeting the issue of a teen center was
brought forwazd with a proposal from the YMCA and another proposal presented by Michael Vincent.
Vraa reviewed the highlights of each proposal, the memo from Chief Gaegan outlining existing centers in
other communities, the memo from Building Inspections relative to a teen center at the Civic Arena, a
memo from Jerry Fazlee regarding the Recreation Sub-committees review of this issue and the concerns
identified by the sub-committee. Director Vraa stated that staff is looking for input and direction from the
Commission.
Member Kubik identified several questions he had relative to the Civic Arena proposal. He asked
to see more detailed layout drawings, asked for clarification on how security would be handled, how
staffmg would be funded, further clarification of conflicts between azena events and the center's use and
also suggested that alternate locations be considered.
Member Johnson expressed her concerns for the location as well and concurred that other options
should be explored. She noted there were no provisions for cleaning/trash removal and wondered what the
budget impact(s) would be relative to code issues. Another concern was a clear understanding of who
would be coordinating the Civic Arena teen proposal and who would be responsible for paying the bills
and making sure that everything was funded appropriately. Johnson also noted that the cost to put in
activities would need to be addressed as well.
Member Petersen commented that the Recreation Sub-committee met on May 3rd and had invited
the YMCA to participate. The Y did not attend and Petersen asked if they'd met with any of the youth
groups to solicit their input. Superintendent Peterson responded that the Y had not met with any youth
groups to her knowledge.
Member Davis felt there needed to be a clarification of the $55,000 cost associated with the Civic
Arena proposal. The YMCA is looking fora $75,000 contribution from the City, however, it doesn't appeaz
that the teens that have been meeting are interested in their location. Davis suggested that the Y be
encouraged to talk with youth groups. He felt that the Municipal Campus was a great central location and
the Civic Arena allows for alternate uses by other organizations. Davis suggested that a workshop setting
may be a better way to discuss this issue further.
Member Johnson asked if more teens could be brought into this workshop session for their
feedback Member Karson concurred suggested that it would be important to hear from a more varied
group of teens. Member Rudolph suggested more dialogue with the outside partnership to clazify the
funding of the Civic Arena proposal.
It was the consensus of the Commission that a workshop be scheduled which would include an
expanded audience of teens to better review this issue. Superintendent Peterson suggested that
Commission Members attend the next teen meeting scheduled for May 30th.
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SKYLINE DISPLAYS
Director Vraa recapped the Commission's visit to the site with Skyline Displays. The developer
was very receptive to the ideas presented to them including removing the garden plots, moving the
proposed amphitheater and re-working the roadway and ponding needed on the site. They are proposing to
return to the Commission with revised site plans and elevations at a future meeting.
Member Johnson asked if the responsibility for maintenance had been identified. Director Vraa
stated that had not been addressed as yet. Member Davis asked if there was consensus that this is an
acceptable spot for a park. Vraa responded that the developer has been getting feedback from the
Commission solely to determine if the concept would be possible. Member Davis reiterated his concern
that the City not create unrealistic expectations for the developer should the determination be made that this
is not a preferred location for a park and a cash dedication is required. Member Mazkell stated that the
developer is aware that this is a preliminary concept being explored.
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There were no new items for the Commission to review.
PARKS DVEL,OPM.~N`I" tTPDATE
WALDEN HEIGHTS UPDATE
Parks Planner Lilly noted that the development plans for Walden Heights Pazk are proceeding as
planned. He shared pictures of the site's existing condition and then reviewed the location of the trail.
Director Vraa added that staff is planning to grade and seed the site this year with the balance of the pazk
construction scheduled for 1999.
ATER TtESOURC.S UPDA'
ICE POLICY
Coordinator Brasch provided a brief background and introduced Brian Jensen, a Burnsville High
School senior working on this project as part of a school project. Mr. Jensen explained that he had
conducted the background reseazch and drafted several policy alternatives as a project for an advanced
placement class in government policy. The Natural Resources Subcommittee met to provide direction and
feedback.
Brian provided a very extensive and thorough review of his research and proposal for ice safety
warning including bodies of water without public access points, bodies of water with public access points
and unnatural conditions caused by the City. He then reviewed the purpose and need for a policy, a
proposed policy, procedure and responsibility for such a policy.
One of the suggestions brought forward was a warning policy for those bodies of water that
contain formal public access points. It was felt that by placing general signs warning of the potential
danger at public access points the public would be alerted to the potential of injury or death which would
allow them to decide whether to proceed at their own risk. Bodies of water that do not provide public
access points would have no signage posted.
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Member Petersen commended Brian for the extensive background work he had done on this
project noting that the Natural Resources Sub-committee had met twice with him. Petersen noted that the
policies proposed are an accumulation of good work and reflect the discussions that occurred. He
continued that the Commission will need to decide which policy to take forward to the City Council.
Petersen opined that recommending no signage seems to be in the best interest of the City.
Members Johnson and Rudolph agreed with the recommendation for a no sign policy. Member
Davis asked if this issue was discussed with the City attorney. Brian responded that the City attorney was
provided with a copy of the policy but had not responded to date. Member Davis opined that a legal
opinion should be included prior to sending a recommendation to the City Council for consideration.
Member Karson added that by posting signs it could open the City up to "detrimental liability" and also
supported a no sign policy.
After further brief discussion, Daryle Petersen moved and Barbara Johnson seconded a motion to
recommend to the City Council that a "no sign policy" for ice safety be approved pending review by the
City Attorney.
Member Kubik again suggested waiting until after the City attorney had reviewed this issue before
proceeding to the City Council.
The motion was called. Those voting Aye included Bonnie Karson, Daryle Petersen, John
Rudolph and Barbara Johnson. Those voting Nay included Lee Markell, George Kubik and Terry Davis.
The motion carried.
Commission Members concluded with their thanks to Brian for an excellent report.
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There were no Other Business and Report items for the Commission to review.
OUND`TABL
Member Markell suggested prioritizing open space funds for future consideration. Member Davis
asked for an update of the playground that was encroaching upon City property. Director Vraa reported
that it had been removed within the time frame set by the City.
AD URNNI~NT
With no further business to conduct, George Kubik moved, John Rudolph seconded with all
members voting in favor to adjourn the meeting. The meeting was adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
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