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11/21/1995 - City Council Special MINUTES OF A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE EAGAN CITY COUNCIL Eagan, Minnesota November 21, 1995 A special meeting of the Eagan City Council was held on Tuesday, November 21, 1995 at 5:00 p.m. at the Eagan Municipal Center. Present were Mayor Egan and CouncUmembers Awada, Wachter, Masin and Hunter. Also present were City Administrator Tom Hedges, Director of Public Works Tom Colbert, Community Development Director Peggy Reichert, Park & Recreation Director Ken Vraa, and Finance Director Gene VanOverbeke. VISITORS TO BE HEARD Dave Vogt, 4115 Lexington Avenue, made a request to the Council to reconsider the approval of the Soderholm Addition due to the fact that he was not notified of the public hearings relating to the Soderholm Addition; wrong or misleading Information was given to residents; and safety and traffic Issues. He stated he doesn't feel it fits with the Immediate area. Doug Reid, Chief Building Official, reviewed a problem with accessory additions In Thomas Lake Heights and Thomas Lake Heights 2nd Addition. He noted that during a recent plan review of a building permit application, it was discovered that the three season porch and deck were proposed to be built outside the platted lot lines of the existing townhome. He noted that the building was built within a foot of the property line. The complex was built by four different contractors between 1980 and 1985. He Indicated that over time, new decks and porches/additions were attached and some existing decks were converted Into porches over the property line into the common association property. When the owners applied for building permits, they presented a letter from the homeowners association agreeing to their plans. He noted that building activity Is regulated by a homeowners association, and protective covenants are not enforced by the City. He Indicated that this situation raises a concern about fire walls. He reviewed several options as to how to address this situation. After some discussion, the Council consensus was to prepare a policy to allow all existing structures to be maintained and new additions to be constructed with the consent of the homeowners association in accordance with approval from the City. Direction was given to allow the homeowner to proceed with their building permit. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT UPDATE Community Development Director Reichert gave an update on various community development Issues. Regarding the John Doe Planned Development, she indicated they are trying to move as fast as they can on this, but there are some problems that need to be worked out. She reviewed a Comprehensive Guide Plan problem with the Airliner Motel. She noted that a resident called her recently indicating they witnessed a vagrant coming out of this vacant motel. She indicated she needs to most with the owners to resolve this problem. She feels it should be tom down. She noted there will be neighborhood meetings on this planned development before it comes back to the Council. The main issues are access and land use. Blue Gentian Way Is currently a gravel road, and homeowners In this area feel the road is fine and have Indicated they are not willing to pay to upgrade the road If the area develops. She briefly reviewed the post office plan for a payroll facility at The Waters. She also reviewed a Rottlund Homes proposal for the Bieter property. She noted the plan is for a commercial comer, and 500 residential units, including a mix of townhomes and single family units. The Council was not enthused about the commercial component. Community Development Director Reichert Indicated there is commercial property to the south. She noted they are asking for narrower lots and setbacks between the buildings. They have Indicated they have some new housing concepts they would like to introduce. The Council may want a presentation on it. Councilmember Awada suggested this be executive housing. Community Development Director Reichert noted that the developer EAGAN SPECIAL. CITY COUNCIL MINUTES; NOVEMBER 21, 1995 PAGE 2 has a concern about land prices and feels the commercial component is necessary to make the project work financially. Councdmember Awada Indicated that land prices do not affect zoning decisions. Councilmember Hunter concurred, noting that 65 foot lots are not the city's standard. Community Development Director Reichert noted that If the city's goal Is to create affordable housing, the city may need to look at the numbers for different types of housing stock. Councilmember Awada Indicated she voted against the Livable Communities Act and no goals have been set yet. She doesn't support high density. There was little support from the Council for the proposed plan. Community Development Director Reichert reviewed a concept drawing presented by Pulte Development Company for the development of the Carriage Hills Golf Course. She noted that the City has not received anything official from them and that this plan is just in the concept stage. The concept plan calls for a mixture of townhomes, twin homes and single family homes with the higher density housing to the north and single family homes to the south. Councdmember Hunter stated that support for this concept will depend on what happens to the property to the north. Administrator Hedges handed out a letter for Counciimembers he received by fax from some constituents regarding the sale of Carriage Hills Golf Course. Mayor Egan noted that the people surrounding the golf course spent more money for these homes to be next to the golf course, and they had a reasonable expectation that it would remain a golf course. Some discussion followed with Councilmembers again expressing their concerns about density. Community Development Director Reichert then reviewed a proposal by Pulte Development Company for a development north of the Promenade project and adjacent to the bulk mad center. Councilmember Awada stated she doesn't feel residential should go In that area. She feels it would better as Industrial. Community Development Director Reichert noted the city sent a letter to Opus telling them what their share of the public Improvements would be. They are not pleased with the results and staff will be meeting with them regarding that. She noted they are calculating the excess capacity credit differently and feel they owe much less than the city's calculations. She then reviewed a proposal from Centex for apartments north of Duckwood Estates and adjacent to Town Centre Drive. This property has gone tax forfeit. The Council did not express support for residential In this location. Administrator Hedges Indicated he had a meeting with the potential owners of the Northwestern Mutual site and discussed the city's plans for a golf course and community center. They Indicated they would like the property for a warehouse and additional development. After some discussion, the potential owners agreed to go back and rework their plan, and agreed that perhaps they wouldn't need the entire 200 acres. In turn, the city agreed to attempt to revise the golf course layout to see If it could work on less land. Councdmember Awada suggested the city swap that land with the tax forfeit land that was proposed for a park near Gopher Smelting. Parks and Recreation Director Vraa Indicated that that was done through the legislature, so a land swap would have to go back to the legislature. Community Development Director Reichert added that the potential owner has said they want 200 acres but there Isn't 200 acres available anywhere else In Eagan which is why they are both looking at the same property. Parks and Recreation Director Vraa indicated he presented the plan for a golf course and community center on the Northwestern Mutual site to the Advisory Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources Commission and they were very supportive of the idea. The meeting adjourned at 6:30 p.m. to the regular City Council meeting. DLP November 21, 1995 PA ~aA OA2 Date ls~ City Clerk