05/15/2000 - Advisory Parks & Recreation Commission
Aooroved June 19. 2000
ADVISORY PARKS COMMISSION
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
MINUTES OF REGULAR METTING OF MAY 15,2000
A regular meeting of the Advisory Parks Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. on May 15,2000
with the following Commission Members present: Joseph Bari, Terry Davis, Cyndee Fields, N. Mark Filipi,
Barbara Johnson, George Kubik, Daryle Petersen, Dorothy Peterson and John Rudolph. Commission Member
Gutknecht and Hiar were not present. Staff present included Ken Vraa, Director of Parks and Recreation; Paul
Olson, Parks Superintendent; Jeff Asfahl, Recreation Superintendent; Eric Macbeth, Water Resources Coordinator;
Jim Storland, Water Quality Technician and Cherry I Mesko, Recording Secretary.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Barbara Johnson moved, George Kubik seconded with all members voting in favor to accept the agenda as
presented recognizing that item L-2 would move to item 1-3 on the agenda.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF APRIL 17, 2000
Joseph Bari moved, Daryle Petersen seconded with all members voting to defer the minutes of the regular
meeting of April 17, 2000 to the June 19 meeting.
VISITORS TO BE HEARD
There were no visitors wishing to address the Commission under this agenda item.
DEPARTMENT HAPPENINGS
Items highlighted by Director Vraa included the successful Fun Run, 218 teams playing summer softball,
annual water quality monitoring program, increase of algae and aquatic plant populations, grand opening of the
Wescott police substation, deli very of the Summer/Fall Discover brochure, improvements to Cedar School and
Rahn Elementary infields, work projects by Dakota County Sentence to Service crews, beginning of spring
fertilizing and all irrigation systems are up and running.
CONSENT AGENDA
There were no Consent Agenda items for the Commission to review.
DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
There were no Development Proposals for the Commission to review.
OLD BUSINESS
FISH LAKE CIP
Water Resources Coordinator Macbeth noted that this issue had been discussed at the December
Commission meeting. He noted that the plan was to lower the level of Fish Lake to freeze out the winter buds of
curly leaf pondweed. The project will lower the lake by 6 feet from what it is now. Coordinator Macbeth then
reviewed the timeline to complete this project and noted that the funding is from a zero interest loan but the project
needs to be completed by the end of July.
Member Rudolph asked if this was a unique operation. Macbeth responded that similar work has been
done in another location and that Eagan will be monitoring the progress of that site. It was noted that it will take
three weeks to lower the lake and that there is no concern about it being re-filled.
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Member Bari asked how the fishing pier would be impacted with the lowering of the lake. Macbeth
responded that the level will not be low when fishing is going to occur.
Member Davis complimented Coordinator Macbeth on making the surrounding residents aware of the
project. Member Kubik asked if the results of this project will be published stating that they could be very
beneficial to other communities.
NORTH PARK
Superintendent Olson provided background of the 70 acre North Park site relating to its initial acquisition
and the process the City of Eagan has undertaken to finally take possession of the property. Olson then recapped
the history of the site relative to the City's acquisition of the tax forfeit parcel and the efforts made to address a
closure plan required by Dakota County relative to their concerns about potential contamination of the site. It was
noted that all issues have been resolved with the exception of how the fill slope will be stabilized to the satisfaction
of Dakota County and MPCA. The County and MPCA require a 3: I slope and in order to satisfy this requirement,
Olson continued, tens of thousands of yards of fill material would widen the base of the fill slope into the wooded
area below the slope. The City is of the opinion that the slope has been stabilized with vegetation for many years as
it is and to change that significantly will require significant change to the wetland area as well as having to
completely re-establish vegetation. Staff has contacted an engineering firm that will developing alternatives for
consideration and it appears that both the county and MPCA are open to what they may suggest. The final outcome
of the process, Olson concluded, is that there will be the issuance of a "No Association" letter fom the MPCA which
relieves the City of any association in the unlikely event of a release of an unidentified contaminant from within the
fill pile.
Member Davis asked how long the slope has been in place. Superintendent Olson responded that it was 25
years or more. Member Davis asked why the slope is an issue after this period of time. Olson responded that it
exceeds allowable slope as defined by Dakota County and they have to look at the issue based on their criteria
although both they and the MPCA are willing to listen to the options presented by the engineering consultant.
NEW BUSINESS
CIP 2001-2005
Director Vraa provided a brief background noting that this is a follow-up from a workshop session on
April 27 that revised the 2001-2005 CIP for the Park Site Acquisition and Development Fund. The primary
changes included identifying expenditure dollars for the inclusion of Moonshine Park into the CIP and re-examining
the distribution of projected funds over the 2001-2005 time frame.
Following a brief discussion, Terry Davis moved, Dorothy Peterson seconded with all members voting in
favor to recommend that the five-year CIP be approved as presented.
Member Rudolph commented on the demonstrated flexibility of the CIP process. Member Davis thanked
Member Bari for his work in preparing for the CIP review prior to the workshop and cited this as an example of
how the Commission works for the benefit of the city.
BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD OF MINNESOTA-PARK DEDICATION REQUEST
Director Vraa introduced this item stating that Blue Cross Blue Shield of Minnesota is seeking a refund in
park dedication fees previously collected. Vraa continued that the city collects parks dedication fees for
commercial/industrial property at the time the building permit is issued. The fees collected were $17,183 for parks
and $4,682 for trails. The letter from Jeffrey LaFavre of United Properties requested the Commission consider
reimbursement of fees based on their placing trails, picnic tables, grills and benches into the Riverpark office
complex.
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Director Vraa shared a layout of the site identifying the existing building, proposed parking and building
currently under construction, trails surrounding the site and possible location of picnic tables. It was also noted that
BCBSM will make the trails available to the public but their employees will have priority. Director Vraa added that
Faithful Shepherd was the last development in which a credit was issued but it provided athletic facilities that will
be programmed for community use during the summer. It was also noted that Comserve originally received a credit
for fields they had on site but those fields were removed.
In response to a question, Director Vraa stated that there is the potential that the trail could connect with
Hwy 13 when that road is upgraded, however, that connection is not currently shown.
Member Davis opined that the proposed trail system does not seem to be a relevant trail connection to the
City's overall trail plan. Member Rudolph expressed concern for setting a precedent for other developments after
their fees are paid and was not in favor of refunding fees. Member Johnson concurred, adding that the internal trails
planned will most likely be used exclusively by employees in this area.
Member Peterson asked if this plan meets the needs for this Park Service Area. She also questioned if this
trail would connect to an existing City trail or was it outside the overall Master Plan. Member Filipi asked the
Commission if they would have considered this for a dedication credit if they were looking at this as an initial
proposal.
Member Davis stated that if there was a true connection made to the existing trail system he may consider a
partial credit. There being none, he stated he would not support the refund being requested.
Following further brief discussion, Terry Davis moved, Barbara Johnson seconded with all members
voting in favor to deny the request by BCBSM for a refund of park dedication fees previously paid based on the
proposal presented at this time.
As a point of clarification, Director Vraa asked the Commission Members if BCBSM were to amend their
proposal with connecting trails would they re-consider. Commission Member stated they would be open to re-
considering other options BCBSM may present.
PARKS AND RECREATION UPDATE
Superintendent Olson talked about the successful tree sale noting that it was not as large as in years past.
He added that work has begun at O'Leary Park to establish an open turf area where the tennis courts were and
provided details for the planned Central Park clean-up project scheduled for May 20, which will be open to the
public.
Superintendent Asfahl discussed the busy athletic sites noting that Lexington Diffley hosted a rugby
tournament for the first time. The compilation of the Senior Questionnaire is being completed and plans are well
underway for the upcoming Holz Farm Spring Festival.
WATER RESOURCES UPDATE
Water Resources Coordinator Macbeth noted that approximately 24 people attended the Naturalizing
Shoreline workshop recently offered. Those attending found it to be very helpful. Macbeth updated the
Commission on the study being done by the Corp of Engineers relative to the treatment of Schwanz Lake and
Thomas Lake in controlling curlyleaf pondweed. So far they are seeing good results and will come back next spring
to follow up.
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OTHER BUSINESS AND REPORTS
MOONSHINE PARK UPDATE
Director Vraa provided a brief background as it relates to the April workshop on programming possibilities
for the existing home in Moonshine Park. Commission Members attending that workshop reviewed several options
and suggested more in-depth analysis by the building inspection department, review of proposed modifications by a
building contractor and the development of a cost estimate based on preliminary plans. The information was
provided for those members who were not able to attend the workshop.
WETLAND HEALTH EV ALUA TION PROJECT OVERVIEW
Water Resources Coordinator Macbeth introduced Tom Goodwin and June Tunseth, biology instructors at
the School of Environmental Studies who provided a verbal overview of the 1999 Wetland Health Evaluation
Project Overview.
Goodwin and Tunseth provided an in-depth slide presentation of the joint research and educational project
that uses citizen volunteers to gather biological data on local wetlands. They shared slides of the various volunteers
gathering data on macro invertebrates and vegetation to determine a quality ranking for a wetland. Funding for the
project was approved by the Minnesota Legislature and the goals of the project are to evaluate wetland health using
biological data, to increase the biodiversity in wetlands in urban areas, and to conduct a public education effort.
The project is in a partnership effort between local units of government, local educators, citizen volunteers, Dakota
County Environmental Education Program, a wetland consulting firm, Dodge Nature Center, Hennepin County
Parks, and the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency. They added that the Dakota County Environmental Education
Program coordinates the program.
The wetlands sampled in Eagan included DP-13 (Northwoods), DP-ll (Opus), AP 52. I (Freightmaster)
and E-9 (Trapp Farm). Northwoods had a moderate diversity of invertebrates and a poor diversity of vegetation;
Opus had an excellent diversity of invertebrates and a moderate diversity of vegetation; Freightmaster had a
moderate diversity of invertebrates and vegetation; and Trapp Fram had a moderate diversity of invertebrates and an
excellent diversity of vegetation.
After several questions were posed by the Commission, Member Rudolph thanked Mr. Goodwin and Ms
Tunseth for their efforts in coordinating this volunteer effort.
SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATES
Member Davis stated that the Green Space sub-committee met with the Advisory Planning Commission to
further discuss their proposal. The Advisory Planning Commission voted 3 yes/3 no to establish minimum green
space for commercial/industrial property; 5yes/l no to reduce parking stall sizes to 9' x 19'; and 6 yes/O no to have
commercial/office use parking requirements be changed to one space per 200 sq. feet. The Advisory Planning
Commission voted separately on each issue. Member Davis noted that the City Council will view two different
proposals; one from the Advisory Parks Commission and Green Space sub-committee and another from the
Advisory Planning Commission. It is not known when this item will appear on the City Council agenda, however,
Member Davis noted that both he and Member Petersen will be present.
Member Johnson asked if the 9' x 19' parking stall will be an exact dimension. Member Davis responded
that that is the minimum dimension.
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Member Rudolph stated that notes were included in the packet outlining the Recreation sub-committee's
meeting of May 8. He pointed out several items discussed including YELP, Summer in the Park, Wescott
programming, sponsorship policy and the department's marketing plan. He commented on the amazing amount of
work that is done behind the scenes to get programs up and running.
Member Johnson commented that she liked the follow-up format provided by the Recreation sub-
committee.
COMMUNICATIONS
There were no communications items for the Commission to review.
ROUNDTABLE
Member Bari took a moment to share a letter he sent to the local papers relative to a recent comment made
by a councilmember. Bari read the unedited letter he had submitted to the newspapers. Member Bari took
exception to the councilmember's comment that the Advisory Parks Commission's main responsibility is to "decide
what color to paint the swing set" and was disappointed that the newspaper had edited his letter and had omitted the
fact that he was a commission member.
Member Davis shared his disappointment about the councilmember's comment and the issue that the
newspaper did not disclose that Bari was a member of the Advisory Parks Commission. He opined that if the City
Council is looking at doing background checks for volunteers that serve on an advisory commission that it may be
appropriate for commission members to participate in the study of the issue. Davis said he viewed the Advisory
Parks Commission as a very thoughtful and hard working group. He added that everyone works hard and thinks
issues through very carefully before making recommendations for the good of the community.
Member Rudolph also shared his disappointment with the comment and hoped that Councilmember
Blomquist understood how dedicated and committed the Advisory Parks Commission is to the community.
ADJOURNMENT
With no further business to conduct, Daryle Petersen moved, N. Mark Filipi seconded with all members
voting in favor to adjourn. The meeting was adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
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