1310 Cliff Rd - SAC Determination LettersMetropolitan Council
? Workiny for the Region, Planniny for the Future
Environmentai Services
July 27, 1999
Mr. Todd Wind
Fredrikson & Byroq P.A.
1100 International Centre
900 Second Avenue South
Minneapolis MN 55402-3397
Re: Pazkview Golf Course
Dear Mr. Wind:
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This letter is in response to your letter of July 16, 1999 reguding the SAC assignment for
the subject properiy.
In regud to your first question concerning the availability of sewer service to your
propetty. The need to have a manhole constructed adjacent to your property is not a
requirement of the Metropolitan Council (MC) and sounds like an azrangement that the
Parkview Golf Course may have made with the City of Eagan. Our policy simply
requires, that since this is an existing golf course, the SAC charges aze to be paid to the
MC, by the City, at the time the connection permit is issued to the golf course. Since the
SAC charges have already been paid, I assume the connection permit has already been
issued for sewer service to the golf course. The means of how this connection is made is
between the City and the golf course.
In regazd to your second issue, the MC is required to bill a poction of iY s debt service
charges on to communities in the form of SAC fees as new buildings are either
constructed or connected to the sewer system for the first time. These charges are
assigned in the form of SAC units. SAC assignments are made based on established
criteria that the MC developed. One SAC unit is equivalent to a potenaal flow of 274
gallons on a given maximum day. The criteria for a golf course can be different
depending on what other amenities aze available. The basic SAC assignment for an 18
hole golf course is 3 SAC units. This assumes that the golf course has sanitary sewer
services available for its patrons at a clubhouse or public restroom. T'his criteria was
based on the premise that the golf course would have 280 golfers on its maximum day
and over the course of playing a round of golf (4-5 hours) each golfer would have used
the wastewater facilities once. In reality, some golfers may use the facilities more often
and other golfers not at all.
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I have reviewed the criteria for the additional charges for the Parkview Golf Course and
believe that this assignment may have over estimated the potential flow to the system for
this use and thus resulted in an over charge. The assignment was made by taking the
seating in the snack baz area, 58 seats @ 22 seats per SAC unit. This criteria is normally
used for a fast service restaurant with no water used in food preparation or dishwashing.
It is our understanding that the clubhouse offers a minimum food menu with no food
preparation or dishwashing water. Thus, the SAC assignment seemed to be coaect and
was based on projected wastewater flow from the patrons that stay uound to have a
snack and a refreshment. The criteria also assumes that the restaurant would have 5 fitls
during the day or 290 people. Since the golf course criteria is based on only 280 goifers
per day and since Parkview Golf Course has no other amenities to attract patrons, the
criteria was wrongly applied. We believe that a more realistic projection would be to use
1/3 of the pauons of the golf course in applying the criteria to the snack baz azea. This
resulu in the following reassignment of SAC units:
I SAC Umts
Chuges:
Golf Course (18-hole) 3.0
Snack Bar
95 people @ 2.5 g/p @ 274 g/SAC unit •87
Total Chazges: 3.87 or 4
Based on this review, the City of Eagan should file, as part of it's next SAC report, an
amended report for the Parkview Golf Course and take a 2 unit credit against it's chuges
for that month.
If you have any questions, please call.
Dnald ly,S Bluhm
Manager, Municipal Services Unit
Wastewater Services Department
cc: Dale Schoeppner, City of Eagan
S. Selby, MCES
7odi Edwazds, MCES
Metropolitan Council
? Working for the Region, Planning /or the Future
^ Environmental Seruices
pctober 16, 1998
Dale Schceppner
Building Official
City of Eagan
3830 Pilot Knob Road
Eagan, MN 55122
Dear Mr. Schoeppner:
The Metropolitan Council Environmental Services Division has determined SAC for the
parkview Golf Course to be located within the City of Eagan•
This project should be charged 6 SAC Units, as determined belov+•
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Charges:
Golf Course (18-hole)
Snack Bar
58 seats @ 22 seats/SAC Unit
If you have any questions, call me at 602-1113.
5incerely,
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7odi L. Edwards
Staff Specialist
Municipal Services Section
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clc: S. Selby, MCES
Carolyn Krech, Finance Department, Eagan
Quinn Flutso4 CNH Architects
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Total Chazge: 5.64 or 6
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? Metropolitan Council
Working for the Region, Planning /or the Future
Environmentai Seruices
July 27, 1999
Mr. Todd Wind
Fredrikson & Byron, P.A.
1100 Intemational Centre
900 Second Avenue South
Minneapolis MN 55402-3397
Re: Parkview Golf CoursP
Dear Mr. Wind:
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This letter is in response to your letter of 7uly 16, 1999 regarding the SAC assignment for
the subject property.
In regazd to your first question concerning the availability of sewer service to your
properry. T'he need to have a manhole conswcted adjacent to your properiy is not a
requirement of the Meuopolitan Council (MC) and sounds like an arrangenient that the
Parkview Golf Course may have made with the City of Eagan. Our policy simply
requires, that since this is an existing golf course, the SAC charges are to be paid to the
MC, by the City, at the time the connection permit is issued to the golf course. Since the
SAC charges have already been paid, I assume the connection permit has already been
issued for sewer service to the golf course. The means of how this connection is made is
between the City and the golf course.
In regazd to your second issue, the MC is required to bill a poction of iYs debt service
charges on to communities in the form of SAC fees as new buildings are either
constructed or wnnected to the sewer system for the first rime. These charges are
assigned in the form of SAC units. SAC assignments are made based on established
criteria that the MC developed. One SAC unit is equivalent to a potential flow of 274
gallons on a given maximum day. The criteria for a golf course can be different
depending on what other amenities are available. The basic 5AC assignment for an 18
hole golf course is 3 SAC units. This assumes that the golf course has sanitary sewer
services available for its patrons at a clubhouse or public restroom. This criteria was
based on the premise that the golf course would have 280 golfers on its maximum day
and over the course of playing a round of golf (4-5 hours) each golfer would have used
the wastewater facilities once. In reality, some golfers may use the facilities more often
and other golfers not ai all.
230 East FIRh SVeet St. Paul, Mlnnesota 55101-1626 (651) 602-1005 Fax 602-1163 TDD/TTY 229-3760
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I have reviewed the criteria for the additional charges for the Parkview Golf Course and
believe that this assignment may have over estimated the potential flow to the system for
this use and thus resulted in an over charge. The assignment was made by taking the
seating in the snack bar area, 58 seats @ 22 seats per SAC unit. This criteria is normally
used for a fast service restaurant with no water used in food preparation or dishwashing.
It is our understanding that the clubhouse offers a minimum food menu with no food
prepazation or dishwashing water. Thus, the SAC assignment seemed to be coaect and
was based on projected wastewater flow from the pauons that stay around to have a
snack and a refreshment. The criteria also assumes that the restaurant would have 5 fills
during the day or 290 people. Since the golf course criteria is based on only 280 golfers
per day and since Parkview Golf Course has no other amenities to attract patrons, the
criteria was wrongly applied. We believe that a more realistic projection woutd be to use
1/3 of the patrons of the golf course in applying the criteria to the snack bar azea. This
results in the following reassignment of SAC units:
SAC Umts
Chuges:
Golf Course (18-hole)
Snack Baz
3.0
95 people @ 2.5 g/p @ 274 g/SAC unit .87
Total Chazges: 3.87 or 4
Based on this review, the City of Eagan should file, as part of iYs next SAC report, an
amended repott for the Pazkview Golf Course and take a 2 unit credit against it's charges
for that month.
If you have any questions, please calt.
Dnald ly,S Bluhm
Manager, Municipal Services Unit
Wastewater Services Depaztment
cc: Dale Schoeppner, City of Eagan
S. Selby, MCES
Jodi Edwazds, MCES