07/12/1984 - Advisory Parks & Recreation CommissionEAGAN MUNICIPAL CENTER
7:00 P.M.
JULY 12, 1984
1. CALL TO ORDER PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND MINUTES OF JUNE 7 AND SPECIAL MEETING OF JUNE 14.
3. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS:
a. Eugene Haeg
b. Sunset 6th Addition
c. Blackhawk Oaks /Blackhawk Lake Addition
4. OLD BUSINESS
5. NEW BUSINESS
a. Winkler /Jackson Concept Plan Review
b. Metropolitan Parks Open Space: Development Guide /Policy Plan.
6. PARK BONDS
a. Update on hiring.
b. Project status Rahn, Capricorn, etc..
c. Discussion: 1 Processing
2. Design standards
7. OTHER BUSINESS AND REPORTS
a. Parks Maintenance Report
b. River Hills Park Neighborhood Contribution Play Equipment
c. Kehne House Update
d. Dist. 196 School /Program usage
e. Erosion Control Manual Synopsis
8. OTHER
AGENDA
ADVISORY PARKS RECREATION COMMISSION
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
MEMO TO: ADVISORY PARKS RECREATION COMMISSION
FROM: KEN VRAA, DIRECTOR OF PARKS RECREATION
DATE: JULY 10, 1984
RE: COMMISSION MEETING JULY 12, 1984
The City Council has recently made an appointment to fill the vacancy created by Doug
McNeely. Mr. Mike Fedde has been reappointed to the Advisory Commission to fill the
unexpired term of Mr. McNeely. The reappointment of Mike to the Commission, I am
sure, is welcomed by all and will an advantage because of his past experience and
knowledge of the Commission's operations and the Parks System Plan.
Members will immediately note that the July agenda has relatively few items for the
Commission to deal with and, therefore, I apologize for not getting the agenda to the
Commission in the normal time frame, but press of Parks Department activities has
limited the amount of time for packet and agenda preparation.
The first item under "Development Proposals" is the preliminary plat by Eugene Haeg
for single family residences. The proposal is to subdivide a five acre parcel into
eight single family lots. Staff has reviewed this plat and is recommending that a
cash dedication requirement be a condition of plat approval.
The second item under "Development Proposals" is Sunset 6th Addition. This addition
is within the Lexington South P.U.D. and, therefore, its parks contribution will be
fulfilled within the Planned Unit Development Agreement.
The third "Development Proposal" is the Blackhawk Oaks /Blackhawk Lake Addition.
Members will recall the initial review and subsequent visit to the park site during
its two June meetings. Based on the comments at the Parks Commission meeting in
June, Mr. Stalland has submitted an alternate "B" which moves the access road off of
park property to location to the north. This roadway location is within the one rod
easement formerly available to Mr. Stalland. Staff will attempt to complete an
initial review and study of this area for submission to the Parks Commission on
Thursday evening.
There are no items under "Old Business with the first item under "New Business"
being review of the concept plans of Winkler /Jackson Park. Members will recall that
this concept plan review was deferred from the June 7 meeting. Jim Sturm will
present the planned alternatives regarding this park. Members should be aware that
grading of this park will be done within the next two years under the P.U.D.
Agreement or will receive an equivalent amount in cash as part of the P.U.D.
Agreement. (Please note that Mr. Sturm's last date with the City is slated for July
16 and it would be appropriate for the Commission to extend its thanks for his
efforts on behalf of the City during his six months tenure).
The Metropolitan Parks Open Space Commission (the responsible agency for coordin-
ating the regional park system) is conducting a series of public meetings relative to
the Council Development Guide /Policy Plan for recreation open space. While this is a
regional issue, Eagan is impacted by the Open Space Commission's actions as it may
affect the Lebanon Hills Regional Park. With this potential impact, staff felt it
appropriate that the Advisory Commission be able to review the current purpose and
goal statements of the Commission for possible recommended changes. Please find
enclosed the Open Space Development Guide /Policy Plan issues paper recently received
by the department. A series of public meetings to hear comments from the public is
scheduled, the closest of which will be at Burnsville City Hall on July 26.
PARKS BOND:
This department's staff will update the Commission on the hiring of a landscape /parks
planner for the expenditure of the parks bond funds. At the time of this writing,
the City has received 18 applications for the position. Initial review has begun
with some interviews anticipated for Thursday, July 12, and Tuesday, the 17th. It is
anticipated that the successful applicant will be chosen after the 17th for immediate
placement into the position. Staff will provide additional information regarding the
applicants at the meeting on July 12. Staff will also report on the status of
several of the parks which were selected for initial development.
An item for discussion and action under the "Parks Bond" heading at this time is the
processing of the development work. Some of these items are profunctory in nature,
i.e., announcing advertisement of bids, bid acceptance, however, the Council and
Commission should address the line of authority and responsibility for other issues.
For example, who should be responsible for authorizing change orders or costs which
exceed referendum budget? These issues should be addressed by both the Parks
Commission and the City Council so an understanding is achieved and a guideline
developed by which staff can operate. The Advisory Parks Recreation Commission is
asked to begin this discussion and suggest to the City Council which items it feels
capable and willing to undertake.
The Director of Parks and Recreation would also like to be in a discussion of design
standards for later use in the parks development program. While much of this will
come from the Landscape Architect and Design Team, it will be appropriate for the
Commission to become involved and establish design standards from which the Design
Team can work. Often design standards are set by "industry standards," however, the
Commission should discuss its standards (criteria) for other park aspects. An
example of this is, "should play equipment have a play perimeter The Commission
has previously determined that all play equipment will be within play perimeters.
The design standards might involve a choice of building material for shelters,
drinking fountains and the like. Staff would anticipate that this will be a topic of
discussion for the Commission at a future Parks Commission Meeting, but would attempt
to broach the subject as way of introducing the topic to the Parks Commission at this
time.
Under "Other Business Reports the Director of Parks Recreation will update the
Commission on the past two months parks maintenance activities. The maintenance
staff has been extremely busy during the months of May and June, with a record number
of acres mowed and maintained for each of the past two months. The department has
been involved in other maintenance and improvement projects throughout the system,
but it is still behind in many of the activities which were planned for early June.
Item B under "Other Business Reports" is recognition of a neighborhood contribution
of $1,500 from the River Hills Park East Association. This contribution has been
secured by the Director of Parks Recreation and will be used to supplement and
provide for additional play equipment to this neighborhood park.
Mr. Roger Sjobeck of the Adkins Associates has indicated he would have a preliminary
report available to the Parks Commission concerning his study on the Kehne House.
Director of Parks Recreation has had frequent conversations with Mr. Sjobeck
relative to this issue, but has not yet received this report study. Therefore, this
item has been placed on the agenda as "Other Business Reports and should it be
made available, will be distributed to the Commission for discussion at its August
meeting. An alternative is the Special Issues Committee to meet and discuss the
report prior to the full Commission meeting in August.
Also enclosed with this agenda is a letter addressed to JoAnne Ellison, Director of
Community Education for District 196. The issue is relative to the City's request
for space utilization in District 196 schools. The City has not previously
conducted, nor has it been able to obtain space, at the school locations in the past.
However, in response to citizens request and recent policy adoptions by the Parks
Recreation Departments of Rosemount and Apple Valley, this department has initiated a
strongly worded request for gym space at the Rosemount and Scott Highlands Middle
Schools. The resolution of the space request has not yet been achieved.
Enclosed with this packet is a synopsis of the "Erosion Control Manual" recently
assembled by the Public Works Department. I have enclosed this synopsis of the much
larger control manual because of the Commission's displayed interest in erosion
control measures which are considered with development. This synopsis centers upon
the basic principles and practices in erosion control.
If there are no other items of business or reports to discuss, adjournment would then
be in order for the Advisory Commission.
Respectfully iubiitted,
Direc
KV /js
Encl.
Parks Recreation
Eagan Parks Commission re: Joe Murphy House in Patrick Eagan Park
The Eagan Athletic Association asked Ken Vraa if he had any space
available to store our equipment and hold various Association activities
(see attached sheet).
Presently we store our equipment in the basement of Cedarvale Shopping
Center in space they have donated in the past 12 plus years. However, due
to remodeling and expansion of the center, our space has grown smaller while
our membership has increased dramatically. This means that, due to the
remodeling now being made, our space must be vacated very soon. We have to
store equipment for approximately 29 baseball teams, 10 basketball teams, 18
softball teams and 6 football teams along with other equipment involved with
youth sports.
After our conversation with Mr. Vraa, we took a long look at the Murphy
House and have had to to answer some questions among ourselves such as:
will it be big enough for our requirements, will it be a liability to our
organization, what about the location, and what would it cost to repair the
house in question?
We already had a group out to clear the brush away from the house so we
could get an electrical contractor to give us a bid on a new main electrical
service. We feel we can do most of the other work with a cadre of
volunteers.
While we do not expect the Park Commission or the City of Eagan to get
involved in the rebuilding of this house, we would like to have some things
done such as: plowing to be done around the house, that mowers would
continue from Northview onto the lawn around the house, City of Eagan pay
the electric bill. Any donations would be gratefully accepted.
Here are some of the repairs that should be made to the house:
Electricity, Plumbing, Painting, Security reflooring and insulation for the
second floor.
Electricity I had the Hilite Electric Company survey the total
electric situation but at this point in time have not received a written
reply from them. (Hilite Electric Company is an Eagan based firm). Their
verbal recommendation was that a totally new underground service to the
house would be needed. We would work with them to use surface wiring in the
house (conductance) as this would be for non residental use.
Plumbing The plumbing has been vandalized. All the copper and brass
is gone. That might not present a big problem as more than likely all we
will use are the restroom facilities. The original septic tank would either
be converted or replaced by a holding tank. The well would be put back into
service and the water tested. If a negative report came back, water would be
used in the restroom only. For our limited number of events we could plan
on having water brought in.
Heat The heating system in the house is an oil fired boiler for hot
water heat. Needless to say, where the copper plumbing for this has gone is
a mystery. The only parts of the house we would heat in the winter would be
a meeting room and restrooms when in use. Thermal electric baseboards and
the addition of U. L. approved free standing fire place would be used.
Fire Safety The emergency exit plan is better than average. There
are four direct routes to the outside (two in the area we would use for the
meeting room): one front, one rear, one from the restroom area and one from
the main equipment room adjacent to the meeting area. All would be kept in
service.
Insurance We are insured with the St. Paul Companies and this includes
everything we deal with which are: coaches, players and volunteer workers.
At this time we have not discussed insuring the house but our insurance
broker will survey our need once approval is given to us to occupy the
premises.
The House would be a major responsiblity and undertaking for the Eagan
Athletic Association (EAA) board members. It will require volunteer help
from all of our members as well as other adults and youths.
The location would be beautiful as it is where our population is
expanding the most. The importance of this project is this one thought
"KIDS ARE SOMETHING SPECIAL" and this task becomes a very rewarding project.
OUR NEEDS FOR THE MCCARTHY HOUSE
1. Storage for athletic equipment.
2. Meeting place for the Board of Directors, Coaches and Teams.
3. Training area, such as the cross country ski trail for running (Soccer
and Football).
4. Rough Country Marathons (Summer, Ski Trail).
5. Winter activities may include:
a. Youth snow shoe racing at the upper level located northeast of the
house.
b. Beginners' cross country skiing on the ski trial.
6. Possible use for fund raising activities.
7. Picnic area for members to be used for team parties, coaches parties,
and board activities.
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE
ADVISORY PARKS RECREATION COMMISSION
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
JUNE 7, 1984
AGENDA
MINUTES
SUBJECT TO APPROVAL
A regular meeting of the Advisory Parks Recreation Commission was called to
order by Chairman Martin at 7 :30 P.M.. The formal meeting was preceded by a
tour of parks and potential park sites. Members present were Martin, Masin,
Carroll, Bertz, Ketcham, Alt and Kubik. Absent was Jackson; McNeely resigned.
Also present were Ken Vraa, Director of Parks Recreation, Liz Witt,
Administrative Assistant; and Jim Sturm, Parks and Recreation Intern.
Developers and residents were in attendance to speak on specific items on the
agenda.
Richard Carroll moved, Thurston seconded, that the agenda be approved as
presented. The motion carried.
Sandra Masin moved, Kubik seconded, that the minutes of May 3, 1984 be
approved as presented.
A. Pheasant Knoll, Blackhawk P.U.D.
DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
Parks and Recreation Director Vraa reviewed concerns of the Commission from
the May meeting; size and location of the road to serve the units; the
closeness of the project to Heine Pond; the extension of trailways, etc..
Director Vraa then presented a revised plan for Pheasant Knoll. The road
would be located approximately 30' to the west and would be of standard size.
Its location and the movement of the park's parking lot would create more
green space. A private road and cul -de -sac reduced in size would access the
public road for a short distance to reach County Road 30. Director Vraa also
noted the pond was found to be approximately 2' higher than the accepted high
water mark.
John Bossardt, speaking from Dunn Realty, added that a right turn lane from
County Road 30 to the park road will increase the safety factor at the
intersection. The housing units will be placed further to the west providing
more grass space and less blacktop. The total park dedication will be 9.44
acres. The Envirofence will be part of the contract document and there storm
water run off goes directly in an existing storm sewer.
A new resident on Clemson Court was concerned with preserving the evergreen
trees and having an erosion free slope. Rick Thole, a resident living on
Heine Strasse, was afraid that many trees would be removed and also wondered
who would pay for the street. He wondered why the City wanted to develop a
park at all because there are already many cars parking on streets and
using the lake. He commented that if access and a park is provided, there
will be even more people. He felt the access off Highway 30 at that location
is hazardous. A right turn lane would help, but access to County Road 30
would be a problem, particularly in the wintertime. Ron Williams, Clemson
Court resident, wanted a review of the proposed changes which would prevent
erosion. He was also concerned with the algae and weed growth in Heine Pond.
Mr. Bossardt commented that most of the trees would be preserved. He said the
County was planning to reduce the slope on County Road 30 and install stop
lights at Thomas Lake Road in the future. The Envirofence and grass plantings
will effectively control erosion.
Director Vraa added there are no plans to control weed growth in Heine Pond as
it will be used primarily for fishing. As for traffic on /or near the site, he
related the facts determined in the Systems Plan Study that by limiting
parking space, people would be discouraged from using the park in large
numbers. Prohibiting parking on County Road 30 will further limit excess
usage. He concluded by saying the public road would be a City project, while
the private road would be the responsibility of the developer.
Chairman Martin felt the new proposal was an improvement. He did question
where the high water mark will be. Director Vraa said that it might be
lowered from the 874.5' where it is right now. In response to Chairman
Martin's question about a trailway in the area, Director Vraa noted there is a
2 :1 slope in the area of a proposed trail. Commission Member Carroll stated
that this much of a slope would not be workable for a trail.
Commission members liked the narrowing of the private roadway, but had
expressed concerns about erosion control. They recognized there would be one
half acre less park than the P.U.D. called for, but felt the deficiency shall
be made up as part of the Blackhawk P.U.D..
On a motion by Chairman Martin, seconded by Carroll, the Commission
unanimously approved the recommendations to:
1. Accept the proposal as presented June 7, 1984.
2. Erosion control must be closely monitored.
3. Provisions for a trailway between the park road and Thomas
part of the proposal.
4. The Homeowners Association must maintain the park road
provides access to their road in the wintertime.
5. Any deficiency in park dedication would be made up in the
dedication within the P.D..
B. Pilot Pointe
Lake Road be a
segment which
Blackhawk Park
A preliminary plan for 22 residential units along a cul -de -sac off Pilot Knob
Road was briefly described by Director Vraa. He stated that a trailway should
be provided along Pilot Knob Road and a cash dedication. Tom Ketcham moved,
Alt seconded, to recommend acceptance of cash dedication for Pilot Pointe and
provision for a trail on Pilot Knob. The motion carried unanimously.
C. Draenckhahn Rezoning and Preliminary Plat
Director Vraa said the .68 acre plat is in for a rezoning and preliminary
plat. The developer wishes to provide for a roadside business on the side.
After discussion Carroll moved, Bertz seconded, that commercial cash
dedication be a condition of plat approval for the parcel. The motion was
unanimously approved.
D. Blackhawk Oaks /Blackhawk Lakes Addition:
The Director of Parks and Recreation stated that this item had not been before
the Planning Commission, and therefore, no planning packet was available. He
then briefly reviewed the past history of the Blackhawk Oaks Addition and the
issues relative to Blackhawk Park. He stated that the City has received
information relative to a proposed change in the Blackhawk Oak plat and the
development of Blackhawk Lake Addition immediately north of Blackhawk Park.
Mr. Peter Stalland, representing the development of Blackhawk Oaks /Blackhawk
Lake, and Mr. Bill Moyer of Probe Engineering, presented the two development
proposals to the Advisory Parks Recreation Commission. They stated they had
spent considerable time trying to find good access to the northerly part of
Blackhawk Park and the Blackhawk Lake Addition. It was indicated they could
not come up with a suitable roadway because of topography and the extreme cost
encountered with providing a public road. He continued to say he did not
believe that suitable access to Blackhawk Park could be provided which would
not meet with difficult grades within the park itself. Mr. Stalland explained
that a revision of the Blackhawk Oaks Addition will provide a private roadway
to the Blackhawk Lake Addition. This proposal would provide a private roadway
to four large single family lots. The roadway would have to cross a portion
of Blackhawk Park, affecting some 2,000 square feet. In return for this
crossing of Blackhawk Park, developer would exchange Outlot "D" of
approximately 9,000 square feet.
There was additional discussion regarding the development, roadway and
temporary construction easement. Chairman Martin indicated he still wanted to
see, and try to provide for, access to the park other than through a
residential street as is currently the case. He questioned why a park road,
which would not have to meet public road standards, could not be accomodated.
Commission member Carroll recalled that the grades were extremely steep and
difficult in the area described.
In response to a question as to why the private roadway could not be shifted
north off of park property, Mr. Stalland said roadway could not be moved
because the current landowner was not interested in any development.
Commission member Bertz asked if the access to Blackhawk Park had to be at the
northern most point of the park. She questioned why the roadway couldn't be
constructed at a relatively level area along the west property line within the
gereral north area.
Bill Moyer, Probe Engineering, stated that a roadway could be developed into
the park at the northern most section, but access from this point to other
areas of the park would still encounter steep and difficult slopes.
There was a prolonged discussion by members of the Commission and developer
relative as to grades and road access areas. Director of Parks Recreation
commented that the area of disagreement was reflected of the fact that Mr.
Stalland had previously been before the Commission indicating that a road
could be developed which would be access to the park, but that he was now
saying such a roadway was not feasible. Mr. Stalland responded by saying that
at the time he did not have the expertise of an engineering firm who has now
indicated that such a roadway was not possible. There was a general
consensus that a tour should be taken of the site before making the
decision.
Commission member Bertz suggested that the Commission could consider taking an
easement over the private road which could be returned if not utilized. The
City could then develop its plan for the park. Mr. Stalland responded that he
was not prepared to consider such a proposal until he had a further chance to
study it. He asked that the Commission give consideration to the land swap at
this time so the developer could include it in their proposal to the Planning
Commission. Chairman Martin responded that he-did not believe the Commission
was prepared to make such a recommendation at this time. George Kubik then
moved, Mason seconded, to delay a recommendation on Blackhawk Oaks until after
a tour of the area has been made. Motion carried unanimously.
Chairman Martin requested that staff set up a tour of the park site requesting
that Systems Consultant, Tim Erkkila, be present to review the site with the
Commission.
E. THOMAS LAKE APARTMENTS INFORMAL REVIEW:
Jack Safar, representing Dominium Group, informed the Commission of a high
quality rental apartment complex they propose to construct just south of
Thomas Lake School. They are seeking a change in the proposed park boundaries
in the P.U.D. to accomodate the apartment buildings.
Perry Bolland of HGH Architectural Firm, said there is a 60' grade change on
the parcel and Thomas Lake is 20' below Thomas Lake Road. The developers
would preserve the shoreline, provide trail connections and put in amenities
such as tennis courts. He suggested the 950' contour line as the new park
boundary, resulting in approximately two acres less park which the developers
would make up for by providing the amenities.
Commission members were very concerned with parkland acreage and felt a full
review of park dedication from the Blackhawk P.U.D. was in order. The
Commission noted there are no development plans immediately available for
Thomas Lake Park, but possibilities need to be considered before a decision
could be made for this proposal. Commission members also wanted the point on
Thomas Lake preserved for parkland and wanted to keep development as far away
as possible from there. Carolyn Thurston requested a detailed listing of this
park acreage proposal vs. the original proposal plus a list of the amenities
and their location. It was suggested that this area was prime land and any
deficiency would have to be made up in Blackhawk Park.
Chairman Martin felt the Commission needed to conduct an on—site inspection
before making a recommendation. He said the proposal would be placed on the
July agenda. Staff was asked to do a further review.
NEW BUSINESS
A. LEASE REQUEST /CHESMAR PARK NORTHWESTERN BELL:
Ray Nelson, representing N.W. Bell Company, spoke to the necessity of locating
a small equipment building in the area of ChesMar Park and the difficulty of
finding a site that meets all criteria. The building would be 17' square and
be screened by plantings. Road access would be necessary. N.W. Bell proposes
a maximum of a 30 year lease for the site, payable in annual installments or
one lump sum.
Mr. Nelson responded to numerous questions regarding alternative locations,
size of parcel, purchase of building, etc.. George Kubik commented that
recent proposals before the Commission have asked for a taking of parkland.
As all parkland is so hard to come by, all such requests should be closely
monitored.
Thurston noted that N.W. Bell obviously lacked foresight. She commented that
she was concerned about setting a precedent for others, recounting the Fire
Department's request for parkland some years ago.
After discussion, Chairman Martin moved, Ketcham seconded, to authorize staff
to work with Ray Nelson taking into consideration:
1. Minimal impact on trees.
2. Taking of as small a space as possible.
3. Elimination of the turn around.
4. Determine the value of trees and land being taken.
5. Impact on trailways system.
6. Notification of nearby residents of the proposed structure.
The motion carried unanimously. The item is to be brought back to the
Commission for a second review.
WINKLER /JACKSON CONCEPT PLAN REVIEW:
This item was deferred to the July meeting due to the long agenda and late
hour.
PARKS BOND PARAGRAPH B
The Director of Parks Recreation commented that he hoped to have an informal
discussion with the Commission at this time relative to the implementation of
the development and acquisition of the parks bond. He went on to outline the
basic assumptions which he felt were directions from the Commission and the
City Council through past meetings. These included that the City will want to
provide a quality park system while keeping in mind maintenance cost and work
load. He went on to discuss these elements of the project coordination
concluding by saying it was also his assumption the City would act as a
general contractor for the various development aspects. Several members
raised questions as to the advantages of the City acting as a general
contractor and the impact on the various priorities and projects slated.
Director Vraa responded by saying that project coordination could be viewed
upon a horizontal access versus taking a particular park project from the
first step of grading to the last step of seeding.
After additional discussion, Director outlined three basic alternatives for
the development final designs, specifications and project coordination. Three
alternatives involve the hiring of professional architect /engineering firms to
prepare the projects for biding. The second alternative would be to retain a
landscape architect /planner as part of the City's staff to do much of the same
work. The third alternative would be to hire a project management team to
oversee the development project.
The Director and Commission members then discussed the various advantages and
disadvantages of each of the three alternatives. Member Kubik commented he
was concerned that one landscape architect in —house would not be able to
handle such a large project. Member Bertz questioned the design team
structure and cost for the three alternatives. Director of Parks Recreation
responded that a project management proposal had been received which would
charge 2 1/2% of the referendum's gross amount. He went on to say that this,
however, did not provide any professional consulting services which would be
an additional cost. Member Kubik stated he felt that the fee of 2 1/2% was
quite reasonable, but members should be aware this was not the only cost to be
incurred. In further explaining the hiring of consulting services through a
larger firm, Director explained that he was aware the City of Burnsville was
paying approximately 6% plus hourly fees for inspections and follow —up for its
parks projects currently under way.
Numerous questions were raised by Commission members relative to current
staffing levels in the department, fees and charges, time frame for activities
to begin and the utilization of in —house design team.
Member Thurston questioned what are some of the immediate activities and
projects which could be started now. Director Vraa responded he has begun to
work on a proposal for the installation of lights at Northview Park and the
installation of playground equipment in those park sites in which grading is
not a factor. Member Thurston asked that the acqusition of the North Athletic
Field receive immediate attention.
A lengthy discussion followed after which it was decided that a full
Commission meeting would be held on Thursday, July 14, to address staffing
needs. Member Martin asked Mr. Kubik, because of his background and
experience with such large projets, to chair this meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS
The Director of Parks Recreation reviewed items under "Other Business"
stating that Commission member McNeely has resigned due to other job
commitments.
The City of Eagan, along with Apple Valley, Burnsville, Lakeville and
Rosemount, joined forces to sponsor a Minnesota Symphony Concert at the
Minnesota Zoo. Members of the Advisory Commissions and City Councils of the
various communities will have a short reception at the Moose Lodge prior to
the July 14 performance.
Director Vraa said the bicycle trails brochure has been distributed to various
outlets and will be made available to the general public within the next
several weeks. The Director indicated that because of the lateness of the
hour, he would defer his maintenance report to the July meeting. He stated,
however, that Commission's input regarding the 1985 budget would be desirable
over the next several weeks. Preparation of the budget is now beginning and
input from the Commision should be directed to staff as quickly as possible.
The Director asked that the Recreation Committee and the Special Issues
Committee meet in the very near future. After discussion by the Commission
relative to priorities at this time, it was decided neither of the
subcommittee groups would meet until after the July Commission meeting. It
was noted that the next regular scheduled meeting of the Commission was for
July 5, immediately following the July 4 holiday. After discussion,
Commission members selected July 12 at 7 :15 P.M. as their next regularly
scheduled meeting. Chairman Martin indicated that because the Commission was
getting together on June 14 to discuss precedings of development issues with
the parks bond, the meeting could be preceded by tours of Blackhawk and Thomas
Lake Park. It was then determined members would meet at 6:30 P.M. at the
entrance of Blackhawk Park, Riverton access location, and then proceed to
Thomas Lake and the regularly scheduled meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
There be no further business for the Advisory Parks Recreation Commission,
on a motion by Bertz, seconded by Kubik, the meeting was adjourned at 11 :45
P.M..
Dated:
Advisory Parks Recreation Secretary
BLACKHAWK PARK:
MINUTES OF A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE
ADVISORY PARKS RECREATION COMMISSION
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
JUNE 14, 1984
SUBJECT TO APPROVAL
A special meeting of the Advisory Parks Recreation Commission was called to
order by Chairman Martin at 7 :45 P.M.. Members present were Bertz, Masin,
Carroll, Thurston, Kubik, Martin, Ketcham and Alt. Absent was member Jackson.
Also present was the Director of Parks Recreation, Ken Vraa.
Prior to the 7:45 Call To Order, the Advisory Parks Recreation Commission
made an on —site visit to Blackhawk Park and Thomas Lake Park. The purpose of
the tour to Blackhawk Park was to review the proposed preliminary plats for
Blackhawk Lake Addition and Blackhawk Oaks Addition.
Chairman Martin asked Commission members to comment on Blackhawk Park and the
two proposed preliminary plats now that the Commission has had a chance to
make an on —site visit. Commission member Kubik indicated it was clear the
proposed roadway would be an obvious detriment to the park and he saw no value
to the City and the Parks System relative to these two proposed plats. Chair—
man Martin agreed that the on —site visit confirmed to him there would be a
great deal more disruption to the site than what seemed to be the case when
one was just looking at the plans. He continued saying that although there
was no concept plan for Blackhawk Park, the City should still try to maintain
an option of gaining access to the north as was proposed under the original
Blackhawk Oaks Addition. He indicated that he thought the grades in the park
could be worked to accomplish a park road. Commission member Alt questioned
whether the City would ever need the park road at all or the access to the
north. Commission member Martin stated that that may be the case, but with a
60 acre park with such diversity and natural resources, some type of a park
road seemed likely with its major access to the south. A secondary access on
the north may be vital to the park. He went on to say that obviously a park
concept plan needed to be developed to answer these questions. Members
discussed possible realignments of the roadway through the Blackhawk Oaks
Addition, suggesting that the best alternative appeared to be for the private
road to go through the property to the north rather than the park property.
Members commented that this appeared to be the least disruptive to the overall
site. Member Kubik commented he was concerned that all of the alternatives
have not been researched and reviewed. He has seen only the one and felt there
should be more than just one alternative to consider. Commission member
Carroll commented his agreement and that the present plan would be totally
disruptive to this area of the park.
In response to a question, Director of Parks Recreation responded that this
item would be appearing on the Planning Commission's agenda in June. Member
Kubik suggested it would be a good idea for the Commission to address a
memorandum to the Planning Commission stating its concerns for this roadway
and the negative loss and impact to the Parks System. Members agreed with
Chairman Martin adding that he would suggest the Advisory Planning Commission
take an on —site view to understand the impact better. Members commented that
the proposal solved lots of problems for the developer, while at the expense
of the parks, what is the obligation of the parks to make this project work?
After further discussion, on a motion by Kubik, seconded by Bertz, with all
members voting in favor, the Director of Parks Recreation was directed to
write a letter to the Advisory Planning Commission indicating that the Parks
Recreation Commission had grave concerns relative to the two proposed
preliminary plats which would create a significant loss of mature oaks (white
oaks), disruption to the site in general, subsequent erosion problems, and the
non benefit to the City of Eagan. Motion carried. Chairman Martin stated
that the developer should be required to look at all other alternatives rather
than providing this road through park property as is being requested.
THOMAS LAKE PARK:
Chairman Martin asked Commission members to comment on the Thomas Lake Park
tour relative to the informal proposal received the week previously. There
were general comments by the Commission relative to the beauty and uniqueness
of the site and the proposed locations of the apartment complex. Member
reiterated they felt the easterly most building must be moved back further
from the shoreline than that which was first proposed. Chairman Martin
suggested that the tennis courts that were first proposed were probably not
located where he had originally thought, but still was concerned about whether
the need for the courts was valid. There was further discussion by the
Commission relative to the proposed plan and park site with no action being
taken.
PARKS BOND /DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM:
Director of Parks Recreation briefly reviewed an update with the Commission
relative to the three alternatives under discussion. Commission member Kubik
stated that he preferred to see an internal landscape architect, but such an
individual will be difficult to find. He went on to state that the projects
in the park will involve not only design detail, but a certain degree of civil
engineering as well. Director of Parks Recreation responded this was indeed
the case ad it would be essential to hire an experienced individual versus
someone who has been in the field only a short time. Member Martin commented
that it appeared the landscape architect position would be the least
expensive of the alternatives. Member Alt questioned the need for a
professional management team whose cost would be an addition to any design
services. Member Martin stated he was in agreement that this was an added
cost to the project. Members then reviewed the management project proposal as
submitted with the consensus that this was the least preferred method: Kubik
indicated that their fees of 2 1/2% plus expenses was, in fact, very
reasonable as far as project management firms go, but he felt staff at the
City would still have to do much of the coordination and interface with the
firm if it were used. There were additional questions relative to the
position description for the landscape architect, advantages and disadvantages
of an outside consulting firm, and some of the concerns relative to both. In
response to a question, the Director of Parks Recreation responded he has
had previous experience under both types of alternatives. He indicated he had
a preference for the internal landscape architect position because he felt it
offered the best control of the project and that it could be most flexible and
responsive to park needs and individual parks problems. He went on to say
that the concern was, as Mr. Kubik had previously indicated, in finding the
right individual and making the assumption that this one person could complete
the entire task. Commission Member Carroll said it was his understanding we
would indeed have to have additional services and assistance within the
department to accomplish this. Members Kubik and Martin agreed, stating that
we will need the flexibility of bringing in additional help or expertise as
the case may be called for.
Member Martin stated that it was his understanding that cost for this
individual would come from the Bond Referendum money and as long as the cost
for a landscape architect plus any additional outside fees remained below the
6% outside consulting firm cost, this would be acceptable. There was general
discussion relative to the types of services that would be necessary,
concluding in agreement with Mr. Martin's statement. Member Kubik stated,
however, that he felt the design and management load on staff has still not
been adequately addressed. He stated it was already obvious that not only was
the department understaffed now in areas of recreation and in the Director's
time, but this project of parks development was going to consume at least half
of the Director's time in overall management and decision making. He stated
that the mere fact the project is underway means that the department is
already short 1/2 person and the Commission needs to insure that the project
doesn't fail or that other issues in the department are not addressed because
of insufficient staff time. Member Thurston inquired as to the workload and
status of help available to the department. Director of Parks Recreation
briefly reviewed the current status of authorized employees and positions.
Commission member Alt stated that with the successful referendum, now is the
appropriate time to review departmental priorities for staffing. She stated
she recognized the need for maintenance personnel, but suggested that the
authorized maintenance position could be used for other priorities.
Commission member Kubik agreed, saying that the special committee on
recreation was also concluding that additional help would be necessary in the
very near future, if not now, for the growing recreational programs. There
was general discussion by the Commission relative to the various priorities
and needs of the department and the development projects. Member Kubik
suggested that there be a need for general assistance in the overall
operation of the department and parks development combined with recreational
programming. He continued saying he suggested that the City hire a full —time
assistant specialist for Parks Recreation, rather than the maintenance
position. Member Thurston questioned if this wasn't something that should be
addressed in the 1985 budget. Martin agreed that that would be the normal
procedure of things, but when the budget was prepared a year ago no one knew
that we would be sitting twelve months later with the problems of staffing as
the result of a successful parks bond referendum. Members stated their
agreement that the referendum has brought about a whole new set of
circumstances and priorities and would dictate a change at this time, rather
than waiting an additional six months when we are well into project
development. Kubik continued saying it is important that everyone recognize
the impact the referendum will have and the need to react quickly. After
further discussion, there was a motion by Dick Carroll, seconded by George
Kubik, to recommend to the City Council that a landscape architect be hired
for the duration of the parks development program to be funded through the
parks bond referendum money; further, that staff be authorized to utilize
additional consulting or outside services as may be necessary, including the
utilization of the City's Parks Consultant, Tim Erkkila, to begin the
development project. Further, that the Council review the need for an
additional full time staff person to assist in the department. Motion
carried. Chairman Martin asked that the minutes reflect the Commission has
taken this action because of the urgency of the action to meet the fall time
frame for project development, that this is cost effective and maximimizes
the dollars spent on project cost, that it is the most responsive course of
action for meeting development project priorities and departmental operations.
Commission Member Kubik questioned if the landscape architect is approved and
hired and he were to be utilized on other projects outside of the development
program, would that be chargeable to another account? Director of Parks
Recreation explained there are certain fundings within the normal operational
budget for parks consulting services which could be charged against on an
hourly basis for work done outside the scope of the referendum.
NORTHWESTERN BELL UTILITY BUILDING:
Director of Parks Recreation asked the Commission to provide further
direction relative to the request from Northwestern Bell for a utility
building on City park property. He indicated that several members have gone
out to the recently staked building location. He stated this new location,
with minor adjustments, would have the least impact upon the park. Member
Thurston inquired if other issues raised at the previous Commission meeting
had been met. Director of Parks Recreation responded that Northwestern Bell
was in agreement with the new building location and had recently contacted him
and agreed to the elimination of a turn around. However, he said the 10' wide
driveway would have to be increased to 12' in width for safety reasons. He
also indicated that Bell was willing to change the composition of the building
to meet aesthetic concerns of the Commission and would be seeking direction
from the Commission relative to this. There were additional concerns and
questions relative to the length of lease, liability, contract termination and
concern for disruption to the site during construction. Member Thurston
reiterated her concern for precedent setting and the lack of Northwestern Bell
to plan adequately. Commission member Carroll agreed, stating that he hated
to see disruption to the park site. He questioned whether there would be
sufficient room for a trailway in the future. Director of Parks Recreation
responded that such a trail would still be to the north of this building. In
response to a question, the Director responded that Northwestern Bell would be
responsible for contacting the three residents who are closest to the building
to inform them of this issue. Commission member Kubik stated he felt that the
lease agreement should include a clause which would terminate the lease should
Bell try to use the facility for some other purpose than is being approved at
this time. He stated that technology is changing swiftly and he hated to see
the facility being used for storage or other purpose than its intended use at
this time. Members of the Commission agreed and asked the Director of Parks
Recreation to insure this was included in the lease agreement. Members agreed
that the lease should provide for the cash payment up front, with funds to be
deposited in the park site acquisition and development fund. Members
expressed concern for landscaping of the site. Director responded that
Northwestern Bell has agreed to provide the landscaping that may be
appropriate. After further discussion, it was moved by Carroll, seconded by
Bertz, with members voting their approval to recommend Northwestern Bell
proceed with a site survey for this location for further staff review.
Further, should there not be a need for further adjustments, I would approve
the recommendation to the City Council for this facility.
Director of Parks Recreation was directed to relate to Northwestern Bell
that the facility should be changed in appearance to meet the aesthetics of
the park, that a 15 year lease with five year option shall be negotiated, that
Northwestern Bell will be responsible for any liability associated with the
building and its construction, should the use change from that which is being
requested at this time, the lease shall be terminated; that construction
limits be established to insure there is no disruption to nearby vegation, and
for staff to report back at the next regularly scheduled Commission meeting.
Member Carroll expressed concern relative to construction of the facility and
possible disruption to roots from nearby trees. He requested that staff be
involved with identifying construction limits and exact location of the
building to minimize this possible disruption.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business for the Advisory Commission, this movement
seconded to adjourn at 9:45 P.M..
Dated:
Advisory Parks Recreation Secretary
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REZONING &'PRELIMINARY PLAT
FIRST ADDITION
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A AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT
JUNE 26, 1984
'UNE -14 1984
GREG INGRAHAM, ASSISTANT PLANNER
APPLICAITION SUBMITTED: An applictation has been submitted re
a rezo ing of 5 acres of land from A (Agricultural Distric tc
R -1 (R sidential District). In conjunction with the rezoning, a
Prelimi Plat application has been filed for 8 single family
lots on the 5 acre parcel.
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CITY PLANNER
FROM: ED KIRSCHT, ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN
DATE: JUNE 21, 1984
SUBJECT: HAEG 1ST ADDITION PRELIMINARY PLAT DATED JUNE 1, 1984
This letter is to confirm that the Engineering Division of the
Public Works Department has reviewed the proposed preliminary
plat dated June 1, 1984, and has the following comments regarding
this proposed development for consideration by the Advisory Plan-
ning Commission and the City Council.
DRAINAGE /TOPOGRAPHY
This proposed development is located directly West of Dodd Road
and South of Hackmore Drive and is located in the S.E. a of the
Northwest 4 of Section 25. This property is partially wooded
with several farm buildings and a house on it with slopes of
2 9 percent generally sloping to the Southwest. The North
2 of this proposed development is within the J Major Drainage
District and the South of this proposed development is located
within the L Major Drainage District as defined by the Master
Storm Sewer Plan (see figure 1 attatched).
WATERMAIN, SANITARY SEWER AND STORM SEWER
Watermain, and sanitary sewer of sufficient size and capacity
exist in Hackmore Drive and Dodd Road to provide service to it.
Presently there is one 8" sanitary sewer service to service the
proposed four lots along Hackmore. Subsequently staff recommends
that Hackmore Drive be open cut in two (2) places at the common
lot line of 3 and 4 and common lot line of 1 and 2 for new water
and sewer services. The City will require a plan be submitted
for an eight inch sanitary sewer service with a junction manhole
in Hackmore Drive and terminate with a manhole at the South line
of Phase I construction for future sanitary sewer service for
Phase II. The City will also require a plan indicating the pro-
posed sanitary location across lots 1,2, and 3 to lot 4 of Phase
II and a 20' utility easement shall be dedicated for said sanitary
sewer. Staff recommends that the storm drainage from this proposed
property be allowed to drain over land by existing drainage ease-
ments along lot lines in the overview estates replat to existing
storm sewer in Stirrup Street. The existing storm catch basins
in Stirrup. Street are located near the common lot line of lots
4 and 5 of Block 2 of the Overview Estates replat. The City
will require a petition to construct the necessary utilities
or; if utilities are installed under private contract, then the
plans and specifications shall be prepared by a Registered Engineer
and submitted to the City for approval.
STREETS /DRIVEWAYS
This proposed development abuts Dodd Road and Hackmore Drive.
The City will require that the driveway entrances of Phase II
be constructed so that lots 1 and 2 have a common driveway and
lot 3 and 4 have a common driveway to Dodd Road. The drive en-
trances of the lots in Phase one (1) shall be constructed off
of Hackmore Drive.
EASEMENTS /RIGHT OF WAY
The City will require utility and drainage easements ten feet
(10') in width adjoining all streets and five feet (5') in width
adjoining side and rear lot lines. The City will require utility
easements a minimum of fifteen feet (15') in width for all public
utilities. This item will be reviewed again when the utility
plans for this subdivision have been submitted along with the
final plat.
EROSION CONTROL AND GRADING PLAN
The developer shall submit an erosion and sediment control plan
to the City for review and approval. The developer shall submit
a grading plan, indicating the existing contours and the proposed
finish contours with drainage arrows indicating the drainage
flow for review and approval.
ASSESSMENTS
In reviewing the assessments levied over the proposed development
which consists of Parcel 010 -31 of the Southeast 4 of the Northwest
4 of Section 25, it was found that the watermain and sanitary
sewer trunk assessments have been levied. As a condition of
final platting this development shall be responsible for trunk
area storm sewer assessments. Listed below is the current proposed
trunk storm sewer assessments which will be the responsibility
of the developer in accordance with the net areas as final platted.
Trunk Area storm sewer 217,800 sq. ft. x 0.045 per square ft.
$9801.00.
All future costs for public improvements shall be the sole respon-
sibility of this proposed development. The final assessment rates will
be determined using the rates in effect at final platting.
Respectfully submitted,
Edward "Kirscht
Engineering Technician
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ENGINEERING RECOMMENDATIONS HAEG 1st ADDITION
1. Submit a detailed grading and erosion and sediment control
plan to the City in accordance with City policy for review
and approval.
2. Utility and drainage easements shall be dedicated as refer-
enced in this report.
3. Staff recommends that the driveway entrances of Phase II
be constructed so that lots 1 and 2 have a common driveway
and lot 3 and 4 have a common driveway to Dodd Road.
4. This development shall be responsible for the trunk storm
sewer area assessments at the rate in effect at the time
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APPLICANT: SWE -DUN (BRAD SWENSON)
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JUNE 26, 1984
JUNE; 20 1984
REPORTED BY: GREG INGRAHAM, ASSISTANT 'PLANNER
APPLICATION SUBMITTED: An application has been received requesting
Preliminary Plat approval for Sunset 6th Addition. The 'proposal
contains 29 single family lots on 9.6 acres. The plat would be
located between Diffley Road (County Road #30) and Yorktown Place,
1200 feet west of Dodd Road.
ZONING AND LAND USE
Presently, the parcel is zoned PD (Planned Development Di,ettiOt)
in the Lexington South Planned Development. The proposed land, use
designated for this parcel is R -II (Mixed Residential) with a
density of 3 6 dwelling units per acre. The Comprehensive Guide
Plan designates this parcel as R -I and. R -II with the easterly
portion being R -I (Single Family Residential) with a density of
0 3 dwelling units per acre; the westerly portion of the plat
is designated R -II (Mixed Residential) with a density of' 3 -,6
dwelling units per acre.
The overall plat density contains 3.0 dwelling units per acre, thue
conforming with the R -I proposed land use of.the Comprehensive Guide
Plan.
This development proposal would contain 29 small lot single family
homes on 9.6 acres. The average lot is 10,920 square feet with
the smallest lot being 7,800 square feet. The minimum lot Width
at the setback line is 65' with the average lot width being 7U'
In an R -1 district the City Code requires a minimum loth size of
12,000 square feet and a minimum lot width of 85' at the, building
setback line. The underlying PD zoning would provide some
bility to these standards.
Access to the lots would be from a looped road off of Yorkto
The proposed plat is bordered by Sunset 4th Addition on th
and west and unplatted PD land to the east. County Road'30
Road) forms the northern boundary of the site.
PRELIMINARY PLAT SUNSET SIXTH ADDITION
JUNE 20, 1984
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3) No variances be allowed except for topographic or vegetation
reasons.
If approved the plat should be subject to the following conditions:
1) The plat be subject to a review by the Dakota County Plat
Commission since it abuts a county road.
2) No access be allowed off of County Road 30, all driveway's must
must be off of Yorktown Drive.
4) All other City ordinances shall be adhered to.
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C/O DALE RUNKLE, CITY PLANNER
From: RICHARD M. HEFTI, ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER
Date: JUNE 21, 1984
Subject: SUNSET 6TH ADDITION PRELIMINARY PLAT
The Engineering Division of the Department of Public Works has the
following comments regarding this proposed development for consider-
ation by the Advisory Planning Commission and City Council.
TOPOGRAPHY /DRAINAGE /GRADING
This proposed development is located in the NW quarter of the NW
quarter of Section 25, south of County Road 30, east of the North
view Meadows Addition and immediately north of the Sunset 4th
Addition. The existing topography over this parcel consists predom-
inately of a side hill. The top of the hill is located at Lot 10,
Block 1 with the land sloping away from it in all directions. The
slope is steepest to the NE and approaches 15% in the extreme NE
corner of this proposed development. In addition, the NE quarter
of this development is quite heavily wooded with the remainder of
the site being open grassland.
The existing drainage is for the most part to the NE. The extreme
SW corner of this proposed development drains to the SW.
Most of the grading over this development will result in cutting
the hill as previously mentioned approximately 7 feet and filling
in the NE corner of this proposal to accomodate house pads. The
proposed grading will continue the drainage in its present pattern
with the exception that the small amount of runoff mentioned pre-
viously going to the SW will now be drained to the NE. This is not
anticipated to cause any problems since this area is relatively
minor. Drainage over this proposed development will collect in
a low point near Lot 5, Block 2 and transmitted to the east via a
storm sewer into a low area of which a drainage and ponding easement
has previously been dedicated to the City. Figure 1 illustrates
the relationship of this proposed development with the major drainage
district J, revealing that pond JP -27 will be the eventual outlet
for runoff from this area. Presently this pond does not have a
gravity outflow from it. However, this is not anticipated to be
a problem at this time and will probably be required to be con-
structed upon development of the area to the north of County Road
30.
UTILITIES
Utilites of sufficient size, capacity and depth to provide service
to this proposed development are presently being constructed with
the Sunset 4th Addition, under private contract. The public im-
provements for this proposed development will connect to the
utilities within Yorktown Place. The watermain is recommended to
be looped. Plans and specifications for these public improvements
shall be prepared by a registered engineer and submitted to the
SUNSET 6TH ADDITION PRELIMINARY PLAT
ENGINEERING REPORT
JUNE 21, 1984
PAGE 2.
Engineering Department for approval, unless this development peti-
tions the City to provide these public improvements through City
contract.
STREETS
At this time, existing streets adjacent to this proposed development
consist only of County Road 30 (Diffley Road). Since this road is
under the County's jurisdiction, no access is recommended onto it
by this development by either driveway or street access.
Access to this proposed development will be from Yorktown Place by
means of a U- shaped public street. This public street shall be con-
structed to City standards for residential 7 ton streets either
under private contract or by petitioning the City for installation
under City Contract.
The Staff recommends that this development be responsible for an
8 foot bituminous trailway along its common border with County Road
30.
RIGHT OF WAY /EASEMENTS
This development is proposing to dedicate a 65 foot half right -of-
way for County Road 30. Staff has checked with the County and found
that for four lane undivided highways they require a right -of -way
of 120 feet or a half right -of -way of 60 feet. Subsequently, Staff
would recommend the half right -of -way for County Road 30 be 60 feet
rather than the 65 feet as shown.
This development is proposing a 50 foot right -of -way for the inter-
nal street. This is the minimum width allowed under City Code and
Staff feels is adequate for this subdivision.
A 10 foot drainage and utility easement shall be dedicated adjacent
to all publically dedicated right -of -way with a 5 foot drainage and
utility easement dedicated adjacent to all interior and exterior
lot lines. In addition, a 15 foot drainage and utility eaement will
be required between Lots 5 and 6 of Block 2 for storm sewer. Also,
the 15 foot easement required between either Lots 15 and 16 or 14
and 15 of Block 2 for sanitary sewer service to the Joo's property
located west of this proposed development.
ASSESSMENTS
In researching our assessment records, it has been discovered that
only trunk area storm sewer assessments have yet to be levied.
Subsequently, this development shall accept its responsibility for
trunk area storm sewer at the rates in effect at the time of final
platting. At today's rates, the amount of this assessment would be
$14,251.00 (316,681 square feet x $0.045 per square foot).
SUNSET 6TH ADDITION PRELIMINARY PLAT
ENGINEERING REPORT
JUNE 21, 1984
PAGE 3.
In addition, this development will be responsible for all costs
associated with the installation of the necessary public improve-
ments.
I will be available to discuss any aspect of this report in detail
with the Advisory Planning Commission at the June 26, 1984 meeting.
Respectfully submitted,
Richard M. Hefti, P.E.
Assistant City Engineer
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ENGINEERING RECOMMENDATIONS SUNSET 6TH
If installed privately, plans and specifications for public
improvements shall be prepared by a registered engineer and
submitted to the Engineering Department for approval.
2) Sanitary sewer shall be stubbed to parcel 050 -26 (Joos's
property).
3) Watermain shall be looped.
4) This development shall be responsible for an 8 foot bituminous
trailway along County Road 30.
5) A 60 foot half right -of -way shall be dedicated for County Road 30.
6) Easements shall be dedicated as required by Staff and referenced
in this report.
7) This development shall be responsible for the trunk area storm
sewer assessment at the rate in effect at the time of final
platting.
8) All costs associated with providing public improvements to this
proposed development will be the sole responsibility of this
development.
CITY OF EAGAN
SUBJECT: BLACKHAWK OAKS ADDITION PRELIMINARY
PLAT AND REZONING AND BLACKHAWK LAKE AWN
PRELIMINARY PLAT /VARIANCE
APPLICANT: NORSE DEVELOPMENT (PETER STALLAND)
LOCATION: PART OF THE NW's OF SECTION
PART OF THE SW1 OF SECTION 16.
BLACKHAWK LAKE AND EAST OF BLACKHA
EXISTING ZONING: PD UNDER BLACKHAWK OAKS PD AGREEMENT AN
R -1 FOR BLACKHAWK LAKE ADDITION
DATE OF PUBLIC HEARING: JUNE 26, 1984
DATE OF REPORT: JUNE 20, 1984
REPORTED BY: GREG INGRAHAM, ASSISTANT "CITY
APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED This report covers four applications.,
The first request is for rezoning of approximately 13.2 acres
from P.D. (Planned Development District) to R -1 (Residential
Single Family District). In conjunction with the rezoning,
the applicant is requesting preliminary plat approval.,for 27
single family lots (Blackhawk Oaks Addition). The third application
if for preliminary plat approval for Blackhawk Lakes= Addition
which which consists of 6.0 acres and four single family ibts, the
Blackhawk Lake Addition parcel is currently zoned R -1. A, variance
has been requested to allow a 12% slope on the private access
drive proposed for Blackhawk Lake Addition.
Zoning and Land Use: The area under consideration for the Blackhawk
Oaks Addition was zoned PD on October 5, 1982. The PD Agreement
was for townhouse and single family uses. The Comprehensive
Guide Plan designates the area as R -1 (Residential Single-District)
with a density range of 0 -3 units per acre. The applicant is
a change from the existing PD to a R-1 designation.
The proposal for Blackhawk Lake Addition is in an area currently
zoned R -1. This area is also listed as R -1 in the. Land Use
Guide Plan.
Comments: Blackhawk Oaks Addition Initially,` ,this`,_, parcel
was approved as a Planned Development with 12 townhouses and
10 single family units having a gross density of 1.7 units per
acre. The current application is a request to rezone this parcel
to a R -1 designation. The plat would contain 27 single family
lots having a gross density of 2.0 units per acre. The average
lot size would be 17,727 square feet with the smallest lot being
12,155 square feet. All of the lots meet or exceed the 85'
minimum lot width requirement.
In the original PD the road access came as an extention of Silver
Bell Road across the north property line of the site. This
proposal shifts the access to the central portion of the parcel.
The road would come off of Blackhawk Road and connect with Riverton
Avenue to the south. A private drive would come off of this
road to provide access to the proposed Blackhawk Lake Addition.
The existing home would occupy Lot 7, Block 1, of the subdivision.
Blackhawk Lake Addition The applicant is proposing to plat
4 lots on 6 acres of R -1 land located on the southwest shore
of Blackhawk Lake. The average lot size is 1.35 acres, the
average lot width is 120' at the setback line. The density
would be 0.67 units per acre.
Access to the proposed plat would be by a private drive off
Riverton Avenue in the proposed Blackhawk Oaks Addition. The
access drive would cross an area of Blackhawk Park for which
the developer is proposing to exchange land along the park border.
The Park Committee has done an initial review of this issue.
For more information, see the attached memo from the Parks Director.
A variance is being requested to construct the private drive
at a slope of 12 City code allows a maximum of 10% on a private
road.
CONDITIONS:
If approved, the plats should be subject to the following condi-
tions:
1. The plats shall be subject to review by the Park Committee
and resolution of the access issue into Blackhawk Lake Addition.
2. A development agreement be executed prior
approval.
3. The private drive slope variance shall be subject to review
by the City Engineering Department.
4. A minimum setback of 75' shall be maintained from the high
water level of Blackhawk Lake for any building.
5. All other City ordinances shall be adhered to.
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MEMO TO:
REASON:
At the regular meeting of the Parks Recreation Advisory Commis-
sion on June 7, the Commission reviewed the two proposed prelimi-
nary plats near Blackhawk Park. Mr. Peter Stalland presented the
two plats requesting permission from the Parks Recreation Commis-
sion to develop a private road across a section of the park.
There were a number of concerns and issues raised by the Advisory
Commission at that meeting. I've included the minutes of the June
7th Commission meeting for your review.
You will note from the minutes that one of the concerns discussed
was access to Blackhawk Park at the northwest corner. You may
recall that in the original Blackhawk Oaks Addition presented some
months ago, an access had been provided to the park as an
extension of Silverbell Road. Commission members were concerned
that the new development plan would not provide such an access.
The Commission visited Blackhawk Park on Thursday, June 14th in
hopes of trying to resolve their concerns relative to the topog-
raphy and possible disruption to the site. After the site visit,
members convened to discuss the proposal.
Minutes of the June 14th meeting have been included, which I
believe reflect the discussion of the Commission. Basically, the
issues and concerns relative to these two plats involve the
determination and need for better park access near the northwest
corner of Blackhawk Park. Second, the concern is relative to the
significant amount of disruption and loss of mature Oaks and
vegetation. Finally, the Commission was concerned that the devel-
oper has yet to look at all available alternatives rather than
just looking to provide this road through park property.
In further action, the Advisory Parks Recreation Commission has
asked that staff work with its parks consultant to further review
the topographic features of the park and the feasibility (as well
as the desirability) of an access through the Blackhawk Oaks
Addition. Members felt there was insufficient information and
review of alternatives to make its determination at this time.
Should you need further clarification of the Advisory Parks
Recreation Commissions actions and their intent concerning these
two plats, please feel free to contact me.
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FROM:
Enclosure
DALE RUNKLE, CITY PLANNER
C/O ADVISORY PLANNING COMMISSION
KEN VRAA, DIRECTOR OF PARKS RECREATION
BLACKHAWK LAKE AND BLACKHAWK OAKS ADDITIONS
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BLACKHAWK PARK:
Chairman Martin asked Commission members to comment on Blackhawk Park and the
two proposed preliminary plats now that the Commission has had a chance to
make an on —site visit. Commission member Kubik indicated it was clear the
proposed roadway would be an obvious detriment to the park and he saw no value
to the City and the Parks System relative to these two proposed plats. Chair—
man Martin agreed that the on —site visit confirmed to him there would be a
great deal more disruption to the site than what seemed to be the case when
one was just looking at the plans. He continued saying that although there
was no concept plan for Blackhawk Park, the City should still try to maintain
an option of gaining access to the north as was proposed under the original
Blackhawk Oaks Addition. He indicated that he thought the grades in the park
could be worked to accomplish a park road. Commission member Alt questioned
whether the City would ever need the park road at all or the access to the
north. Commission member Martin stated that that may be the case, but with a
60 acre park with such diversity and natural resources, some type of a park
road seemed likely with its major access to the south. A secondary access on
the north may be vital to the park. He went on to say that obviously a park
concept plan needed to be developed to answer these questions. Members
discussed possible realignments of the roadway through the Blackhawk Oaks
Addition, suggesting that the best alternative appeared to be for the private
road to go through the property to the north rather than the park property.
Members commented that this appeared to be the least disruptive to the overall
site. Member Kubik commented he was concerned that all of the alternatives
have not been researched and reviewed. He has seen only the one and felt there
should be more than just one alternative to consider. Commission member
Carroll commented his agreement and that the present plan would be totally
disruptive to this area of the park.
In response to a question, Director of Parks Recreation responded that this
item would be appearing on the Planning Commission's agenda in June. Member
Kubik suggested it would be a good idea for the Commission to address a
memorandum to the Planning Commission stating its concerns for this roadway
and the negative loss and impact to the Parks System. Members agreed with
Chairman Martin adding that he would suggest the Advisory Planning Commission
take an on —site view to understand the impact better. Members commented that
the proposal solved lots of problems for the developer, while at the expense
of the parks, what is the obligation of the parks to make this project work?
After further discussion, on a motion by Kubik, seconded by Bertz, with all
members voting in favor, the Director of Parks Recreation was directed to
write a letter to the Advisory Planning Commission indicating that the Parks
Recreation Commission had grave concerns relative to the two proposed
preliminary plats which would create a significant loss of mature oaks (white
oaks), disruption to the site in general, subsequent erosion problems, and the
non benefit to the City of Eagan. Motion carried. Chairman Martin stated
that the developer should be required to look at all other alternatives rather
than providing this road through park property as is being requested,
The Director of Parks and Recreation stated that this item had not been before
the Planning Commission, and therefore, no planning packet was available. He
then briefly reviewed the past history of the Blackhawk Oaks Addition and the
issues relative to Blackhawk Park. He stated that the City has received
information relative to a proposed change in the Blackhawk Oak plat and the
development of Blackhawk Lake Addition immediately north of Blackhawk Park.
Mr. Peter Stalland, representing the development of Blackhawk Oaks /Blackhawk
Lake, and Mr. Bill Moyer of Probe Engineering, presented the two development
proposals to the Advisory Parks Recreation Commission. They stated they had
spent considerable time trying to find good access to the northerly part of
Blackhawk Park and the Blackhawk Lake Addition. It was indicated they could
not come up with a suitable roadway because of topography and the extreme cost
encountered with providing a public road. He continued to say he did not
believe that suitable access to Blackhawk Park could be provided which would
not meet with difficult grades within the park itself. Mr. Stalland explained
that a revision of the Blackhawk Oaks Addition will provide a private roadway
to the Blackhawk Lake Addition. This proposal would provide a private roadway
to four large single family lots. The roadway would have to cross a portion
of Blackhawk Park, affecting some 2,000 square feet. In return for this
crossing of Blackhawk Park, developer would exchange Outlot "D" of
approximately 9,000 square feet.
There was additional discussion regarding the development, roadway and
temporary construction easement. Chairman Martin indicated he still wanted to
see, and try to provide for, access to the park other than through a
residential street as is currently the case. He questioned why a park road,
which would not have to meet public road standards, could not be accomodated.
Commission member Carroll recalled that the grades were extremely steep and
difficult in the area described.
In response to a question as to why the private roadway could not be shifted
north off of park property, Mr. Stalland said roadway could not be moved
because the current landowner was not interested in any development.
Commission member Bertz asked if the access to Blackhawk Park had to be at the
northern most point of the park. She questioned why the roadway couldn't be
constructed at a relatively level area along the west property line within the
gereral north area.
Bill Moyer, Probe Engineering, stated that a roadway could be developed into
the park at the northern most section, but access from this point to other
areas of the park would still encounter steep and difficult slopes.
There was a prolonged discussion by members of the Commission and developer
relative as to grades and road access areas. Director of Parks Recreation
commented that the area of disagreement was reflected of the fact that Mr.
Stalland had previously been before the Commission indicating that a road
could be developed which would be access to the park, but that he was now
saying such a roadway was not feasible. Mr. Stalland responded by saying that
at the time he did not have the expertise of an engineering firm who has now
indicated that such a roadway was not possible. There was a general
consensus that a tour should be taken of the site before making the
decision.
Commission member Bertz suggested that the Commission could consider taking an
easement over the private road which could be returned if not utilized. The
City could then develop its plan for the park. Mr. Stalland responded that he
was not prepared to consider such a proposal until he had a further chance to
study it. He asked that the Commission give consideration to the land swap at
this time so the developer could include it in their proposal to the Planning
Commission. Chairman Martin responded that he did not believe the Commission
was prepared to make such a recommendation at this time. George Kubik then
moved, Mason seconded, to delay a recommendation on Blackhawk Oaks until after
a tour of the area has been made. Motion carried unanimously.
Chairman Martin requested that staff set up a tour of the park site requesting
that Systems Consultant, Tim Erkkila, be present to review the site with the
Commission.
MEMO TO: THE ADVISORY PLANNING COMMISSION C/O DALE C. RUNKLE
FROM: ED KIRSCHT, ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN
DATE: JUNE 19, 1984
SUBJECT: BLACKHAWK OAKS ADDITION PRELIMINARY PLAT DATED
6 -1 -84
The Engineering Division of the Department of Public Works has the
following comments regarding the proposed development for consider-
ation by the Advisory Planning Commission and City Council.
DRAINAGE /TOPOGRAPHY
This proposed development is located directly East of Blackhawk Road
and directly North of Cedar Grove No. 10 plat. The existing topo-
graphy consists of rolling hills with the Westerly h of this de-
velopment (which is non wooded) sloping generally to the North.
The easterly of this proposed plat is wooded with some very large
oak trees and steeply slopes to the north with slopes approaching
16 percent, except for a small strip of this development abutting
Blackhawk Park whichslopes steeply towards Blackhawk Park with
slopes approaching 25 percent. Figure 1 illustrates the relation-
ship of this proposed development being located within the B Major
Drainage District as defined by the Master Storm Plan (see figure
1 attached).
WATERMAIN, SANITARY SEWER AND STORM SEWER
Existing watermain and sanitary sewer is of sufficient size and
capacity existing within the proximity of this proposed development
to provide service to it. A6" watermain is proposed to be looped
from an existing 8" watermain stub at the intersection of Silver
Bell Road and Blackhawk through the plat, to existing Riverton
Ave. in Cedar Grove. The developer will be responsible for the
cost of the construction of approximately 175 Lin. ft. of sanitary
sewer which will be required to be installed in Silver Bell Road.
This said 175 Lin. ft. shall be constructed prior to the commence-
ment of the Silver Bell Street improvement project. The City will
require the necessary storm sewer with catch basins at the intersec-
tion of Blackhawk Road and proposed Riverton Ave. to pick up all
the surface drainage from this proposed plat, because Blackhawk
Road is a state aid road and the existing surface drainage to
Blackhawk Road is already at its maximum. The City will require a
petition to construct the necessary utilities or; if utilities are
installed under private contract, then the plans and specifications
shall be prepared by a registered engineer and submitted to the
City for approval.
STREETS
Access to this proposed plat is by Blackhawk Road from the West
and Riverton Ave. to the Southeast. The City will require that
Blackhawk Oaks Addition
June 19, 1984
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concrete curb and gutter be constructed along the East side of
Blackhawk Road abutting this plat with the face of curb 22' from
centerline of Blackhawk Road.
GRADING AND EROSION CONTROL PLAN
The developer shall submit a grading plan to the City indicating
existing contours and proposed contours along with drainage arrows
indicating the direction of the drainage flow. The developer
shall submit an erosion and sediment control plan to the City for
review and approval.
EASEMENTS /RIGHT OF WAY
The City will require utility and drainage easements ten feet (10')
in width adjoining all public right -of -way and five feet (5') in
width adjoining side and rear lot lines. The City will require
utility easements a minimum of fifteen feet (15') in width for all
public utilities not constructed within the street right -of -way.
A 15' utility and drainage easement will be required for storm
sewer constructed across the Black Lake Addition. This item will
be reviewed again when the utility plans for this subdivision have
been submitted along with the final plat.
ASSESSMENTS
In reviewing the assessments levied over this proposed development
which consists of Parcel 010 -01 and 010 -02 of the NEa of Section
20, it was found that all trunk related assessments have been
levied. Subsequently, all future costs for public improvements
shall be the sole responsibility of this proposed development.
Respectfully submitted,
Edward J. Kirscht
Engineering Aide
cc: Rich Hefti
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ENGINEERING RECOMMENDATIONS BLACKHAWK OAKS ADDITION
1) Submit a detailed erosion and sediment and grading plan in
accordance with City policy for review and approval.
2) If the proposed development is approved, the developer shall
submit a petition to the City to construct the utilities and
streets.
3) Utility and drainage easements shall be dedicated as referenced
in this report.
4) The construction of concrete curb and gutter along the East
side of Blackhawk Road abutting this development.
5) Construct storm sewer with catch basins at the intersection
of Blackhawk Road and proposed Riverton Ave. to pick up the
surface drainage from this proposed plat.
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MEMO TO: ADVISORY PLANNING COMMISSION, C/O DALE C. RUNKLE
CITY PLANNER
FROM: ED KIRSCHT, ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN
DATE: JUNE 20, 1984
SUBJECT: BLACKHAWK LAKE ADDITION PRELIMINARY PLAT
This letter is to confirm that the Engineering Division of the
Public Works Department has reviewed the proposed plat of Blackhawk
Lake Addition dated 6 -1 -84 and has the following comments regarding
this proposed development for consideration by the Advisory Plan-
ning Commission and the City Council.
Drainage /Topography
This proposed development is located directly north of Blackhawk
Park and directly northeast of the proposed Blackhawk Oaks Addition
with its north boundry being Blackhawk Lake, and is located in the
southwest o of the southwest a of Section 16. This property is
heavily wooded and is on a very steep hill with the natural
drainage sloping toward Blackhawk Lake with slopes from 12 to 25%
towards the north. Figure one (1) illustrates the relationship of
this proposed plat being located within the B major drainage
district as defined by the Master Storm Sewer Plan. This proposed
plat should not be considered for approval unless the Blackhawk
Oaks proposed plat is approved and developed.
Water Main
The City will require that this plat be serviced with a 6" water
main. The water main service shall be connected to the proposed
6" water main in proposed Riverton Avenue and shall be extended
across a utility easement across Outlots A, B and C and shall
terminate at the east end of Outlot C with a fire hydrant.
The City will require a petition to construct the necessary
utilities or, if utilities are installed under private contract,
then the plans and specifications shall be prepared by a Registered
Engineer and submitted to the City for approval.
Sanitary Sewer
There presently is not sanitary sewer service available to this
proposed development by gravity flow. The existing sanitary sewer
invert elevation in Silver Bell Road is 865.41. The elevation of
lot 4 is below the 840 elevation, therefore, staff indicates in
this situation that these 4 lots should be considered to be
serviced by private septic systems. The cost of a lift station
for the 4 lots would be very costly. If the City approves this
plat and does not require sanitary sewer service and accepts
private septic systems, the septic system shall be constructed in
accordance with the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency Regulation
WPC-40. These 4 lots are over the required minimum one (1) acre
size and may be serviced by an approved septic system.
MEMO TO ADVISORY PLANNING COMMISSION
JUNE 21, 1984
PAGE 2
Streets
Access to this proposed development is by a proposed 20' wide
private road which is proposed to be constructed between Lot
12 of Block 1, and Lot 1 of Block 3 of the proposed Blackhawk
Oaks Addition connecting to Riverton Avenue. The proposed street
grade of the private street is approximately 12 which is consider-
ed by staff as excessive, and I am sure that during the icy
winter season the standard automobile will have a problem with
that 12% steep grade.
Easements /Right -of -Way
The City will require utility and drainage easements ten feet
(10') in width adjoining all streets and five feet (5') in width
adjoining side and rear lot lines. The City will require utility
easements a minimum of fifteen feet (15') in width for all public
utilities. This item will be reviewed again when the utility
plans for this subdivision have been submitted along with the
final plat.
Erosion Control and Grading Plan
The developer shall submit an erosion and sediment control plan
to the City for review and approval. The developer shall submit
a grading plan, indicating the existing contours and the proposed
finish contours with drainage arrows indicating the drainage
flow for review and approval. Contact the Department of Natural
Resources for the necessary permits to work near Blackhawk Lake.
Assessments
In reviewing the assessments levied over this proposed development
which consists of Parcel 010 -51 of the SA of Section 16, it
was found that all trunk related assessments have been levied.
Subsequently, all future costs for public improvements shall
be the sole responsibility of this proposed development.
Respectfully Submitted,
Edward J. Kirscht
Engineering Technician
cc: Rich Hefti
Enclosure
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Engineering Recommendations BLACKHAWK LAKE ADDITION
1. Submit a detailed grading and erosion and sediment control
plan to the City in accordance with City policy for review
and approval.
2. Utility and drainage easements shall be dedicated as refer-
enced in this report.
3. The sanitary sewer septic system shall be constructed
in accordance with the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency
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RECREATION OPEN SPACE DEVELOPMENT GUIDE /POLICY PLAN
ISSUES PAPER
5.30.84
INTRODUCTION
The Metropolitan Council is reviewing its Policy Plan for Regional Recreation
Open Space and will adopt a revised plan by early 1985. The Council seeks com-
ments about the strengths and weaknesses of the current plan and also seeks new
issues which people believe should be considered in the revision. This issue
paper is the first part of that public process. It has been prepared by the
Metropolitan Parks and Open Space Commission to prompt discussion at a series
of public meetings in July and August, 1984.
The goals from the 1980 plan, with some questions, are listed as a first issue,
followed by a series of specific issues received from individuals and agencies.
Issues were selected to provoke public reaction as well as to list what the
commission and Council hope to hear about. The commission is confident that
other issues exist and hopes they will come forward during the meetings. The
meetings will also give the public a chance to speak for or against any
specific or general topics they believe should be considered about the regional
recreation open space system. Following the meeting, a revised draft policy
plan will be developed and circulated fora public hearing, currently scheduled
for November of 1984. After the hearing, a final revised policy plan will be
reviewed and adopted.
BACKGROUND
In 1974, following extended discussion, the Minnesota Legislature passed the
Metropolitan Parks Act. The law makes the Metropolitan Council, with the
advice of the Metropolitan Parks and Open Space Commission, responsible for
preparing and adopting a policy plan for a regional recreation open space
system. The parks act requires periodic Council review of this policy plan.
The first policy plan was adopted as a chapter for regional recreation open
space in the Council's Metropolitan Development Guide in 1974. Following
extensive discussion, the plan was revised and adopted again in 1980.
The regional recreation open space system is implemented by 10 agencies-
counties, municipalities and special park districts. Implementing agencies are
eligible to receive grants from the Council for acquisition and development of
regional parks in accord with master plans which the agencies prepare. The
Metropolitan Council reviews master plans for consistency with the regional
recreation open space system policy plan and then approves them. The imple-
menting agencies own and operate the regional parks.
Questions:
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ISSUE 1: Are the Purpose and Goals Statements in the 1980 plan appropriate?
PURPOSE AND GOALS (from the 1980 plan)
The purpose of the regional system is to provide recreation open space that
will meet the outdoor recreational needs of the people of the Metropolitan
Area.
Consistent with this purpose, the Council has eight goals for the regional
system to be accomplished in conjunction with the implementing agencies:
1. Plan and provide regional facilities within the framework of the larger
metropolitan recreation open space system and facilities provided by the
private sector.
2. Acquire park reserves to protect and manage at least one representative
example of each of the eight major landscape types found in the Metro-
politan Area and develop recreational facilities consistent with natural
resource protection.
3. Acquire and develop regional parks, park reserves and regional trail cor-
ridors sufficient to meet facility needs for the variety of experiences
possible for swimming, picnicking, fishing, boating, camping, trail activ-
ities, and nature study and appreciation.
4. Provide regional special recreation use areas within regional parks and
park reserves to meet identified regional needs when consistent with the
overall purpose of the facility.
5. Improve public awareness and accessibility to the regional system through
improved public information, expanded non -auto access (that is, transit and
bike) and accommodations for handicapped people.
6. Provide equitable levels of recreational service throughout the Metropoli-
tan Area, finance the capital and operating costs of the regional system
and secure a continuing funding authority.
7. Provide ongoing opportunity for citizen participation throughout the plan-
ning and operation of the regional recreation open space system.
8. Support general Metropolitan Council goals for development of the Metro-
politan Area by locating and scheduling park acquisition and development
in coordination with schedules for other metropolitan services.
This system plan is aimed at meeting regional recreational needs to the year
2000.
1. Are the goals stated for the regional recreation open space system
appropriate? What do you think the goals should be? Should there be more
priority given to certain goals? Which ones; and in what order would you
arrange them?
2. Is the need for a "balanced" system an appropriate goal? If so, is it
adequately stated in the plan?
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3. The regional system lies within a larger metropolitan system, all the pub-
licly available open space in the Metropolitan Area, regardless of owner-
ship. The plan calls for a regional system which provides approximately
equal access to parks, in distance or time traveled, for everyone in the
region. It also calls for equity of service, that is, everyone should be
able to find parks which provide about the same kind of service, across the
region.
Should the equity apply to the entire metropolitan system, to the regional
recreation open space system, to the municipal or local system, or to some
combination of the above. Where is the greater problem? Where is change
needed most?
4. Research shows that certain sub- populations in the region visit regional
parks less than might be expected, especially elderly, minority, low income
and teens. What are the barriers to their use? Must the plan call for
identification and removal of barriers to use more, or differently, than it
does? Are there other things the plan should call for to remedy the
apparent problem?
5. Is the year 2000 target for a completed system plan reasonable?
Appropriate? Feasible?
6. A major Council task has been obtaining adequate funds for the system.
Should that task become a formal goal of the Council? What is the appro-
priate task, exactly?
7. Should the Council adopt a goal calling for a more active (pro active)
posture to park and recreation issues in the region? In what areas might
stronger leadership or activity applied earlier be of benefit to the
regional system?
8. Minnesota has stressed the importance of tourism and economic development
in public projects including parks. Should the Council's goals add this
directive to the regional system goals? Clearly, regional parks can and do
function in this area.
9. The State Comprehensive Outdoor Recreation Plan (SCORP) is in revision and
a similar national plan review (ORRC II) may begin soon. Should the plan
outline an increased role for the regional and metropolitan system in a
state and national framework? What concerns need to be met?
ISSUE 2. Is the system acquiringg the right parks in the right places at the
right times and is it providing the right facilities within them?
This question is one which is asked, appropriately, every time a policy plan/
system plan for any public service is opened for discussion.
Subquestions follow rather predictably:
Has acquisition proceeded at an appropriate rate, too fast, or too slowly?
Is the planned completed system too large, too small, incorrectly guided in
the places being acquired, or correct?
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Has development proceeded at an appropriate rate, too fast, or too slowly?
Are developments being placed in the right areas? Are the right kinds of
developments being built and are the priorities appropriate?
The system has given priority to acquisition over development. Is that
still a correct point of view, or should development receive higher
priority than it now has?
What measurements should the Council use in addressing questions about
rate of development? What are the important questions to answer?
ISSUE 3. How should priorities be set for the recreation open space capital
improvement program?
As part of its task in establishing a CIP for regional recreation open space,
the Council has established a priority list. Six categories, which correspond
to demands identified in the Council's recreation resource program, are as
follows:
A Region -wide functions necessary for continuing the system.
B Acquisition of parcels critical to completion of the planned system.
C Development of certain facilities including:
o Deteriorated high use facilities;
o Essential components of'a high priority project;
o Projects in areas with gross service deficiencies; and
o Public access to high quality resources.
D Specifically designated (by Metropolitan Council) regional trails and
special uses.
E Support facilities which provide no direct service to users.
F Lower priority acquisitions and developments.
The list is used to assign priority but is not absolute in itself. Experience
has shown that (1) all the high priority projects in the CIP cannot be accom-
plished in a single biennium, and (2) not all projects in any category are
immediately ready. Some can only be accomplished in the more distant future.
Hence, some category "D" projects, ready immediately, may be funded despite the
fact that there are unfinished category "B" projects. Projects receive prior-
ity both by the category to which they are assigned and by the biennium to
which they are allocated.
A separate priority process is used for projects after the Council finds out
what funds are available for a specific biennium. At that time, an implementa-
tion plan shows, as specifically as possible, when each project is to be funded
in the time period according to anticipated revenues. The implementation plan
is adopted by the Council yearly to reflect available capital.
Revisions to both the CIP and implementation plan are made following consulta-
tion by the commission and the Council with implementing agencies and other
interested persons, preparation of a draft for hearing, a public hearing,
preparation of responses to comments at the hearing, and preparation of a final
draft which is considered and adopted by the Council following commission and
Council recommendations.
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Related Questions:
1. In your opinion, what are the greatest needs for the regional system?
Where are problems the greatest?
Are the categories for priority the most appropriate statements the Council
can make to direct the acquisition of land and development of facilities
for regional recreation open space?
3. Do the categories and the goal and objective statements of the Council
match? Do both direct the system to the same point and will it meet
regional needs for recreation open space?
4. Is the process by which priorities are decided adequate and appropriate?
How might it be improved?
ISSUE 4. Should there be a change in the scope of the regional system or the
Council s role in implementing the system?
The regional recreation open space system emphasizes natural resource based
recreation opportunities (picnicking, swimming, boating, fishing, trail uses,
camping and nature interpretation). A few existing special uses include a zoo,
a conservatory and a floral display garden.
Regional system components now are:
o Park Reserves large, open, natural areas.
o Regional Park moderately large, open spaces with good recreation
resources such as lakes.
o Regional Trail Corridors linear parkland for trail activities.
o Regional Historic Parks areas of regional historic importance.
o Regional Special Recreation Use Areas areas which support unique
recreation uses for the region.
Related Questions:
1. Should the system incorporate more special recreation uses? If so, what
kind?
2. Would providing some special attractions in certain parks encourage use
or redistribute use to new parks? Would that be desirable?
3. Does the region have a responsibility for unique or unusually large rec-
reation facilities now provided by municipalities? What would the benefits
or drawbacks be of bringing these into a regional plan?
4. Are there some traditionally municipal facilities that are not being ade-
quately provided or might be discontinued? What are they? Is there a
regional responsibility for these?
5. Are the current classifications and definitions of regional system com-
ponents appropriate? Should some be deleted or others added? Should some
be modified?
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ISSUE 5. What's needed for regional operation and maintenance funding
policies?
In 1984, the Council adopted a position statement on regional 0 M funding for
parks and declared an intent to seek legislation in 1985 which would authorize
a program of supplementary 0 M grants to implementing agencies and provide
state funding, therefore the discussion on pages 31 -34 of the 1980 Policy Plan
is no longer current.
Policy 22 reads:
The regional recreation open space system should be analyzed and recom-
mendations formulated to achieve equitable outdoor recreation opportunities
and consistent operating policies throughout the Metropolitan Area financed
by an adequate, stable and equitable revenue source.
By adopting its position, the Council responded to several 1980 policy
questions including:
The Council determined that there is a need and that a solution lies in a
supplementary program of regional 0 M funding.
The goals of the proposed program include:
o Facilitating system plan implementation.
o Meeting acceptable levels of service system wide (a definition is
provided).
o Reducing undesirable differences in costs and needs for 0 M in the
system.
The Council has suggested a stable source of state funds for the program
which it believes will be adequate and fair.
Related Questions:
1. Do you agree with the Council's position on 0 M funding? What do you
recommend?
2. What policies are needed to guide a regional 0 M funding program?
3. How should 0 M in regional parks be measured? How can one tell what
services and /or levels of service are appropriate?
4. What safeguards are necessary to a regional 0 M funding program? How
should they be provided?
ISSUE 6. Is it appropriate and fair to charge fees in regional parks?
The current policy plan does not mention fees charged regional park users by
implementing agencies. Fees charged are primarily one of two types. The first
is fees for special recreational services, product sales, or revenue from con-
cessions for special services or sales. These have not been questioned except
in the appropriateness of the kind or level of activity for some single enter-
prise. Basically, there seems to be agreement that special services should be
paid for by users.
The second type, fees charged for entry, for parking, or other fees which have
the effect of admission fees, have received more attention. Most of the imple-
menting agencies do not charge such fees. Of those which do, some charge only
for certain sites, others charge for all vehicles entering all parks. Some
collect by parking meters, some by daily and annual stickers.
Related Questions:
1. Are general fees for regional parks appropriate, or should basic entry be
free for all users?
2. Are fees which have the effect of general admissions discriminatory against
user groups such as low income, minorities, physically handicapped, and peo-
ple who do not live nearby, as opponents say, or, are they basically fair
in that they are paid by those who use the parks most, as proponents say?
3. If it is reasonable to charge a general fee, would it make sense to apply a
uniform entrance fee to all regional parks? Should it be the same as the
state park fee? Should it be an actual statewide park sticker with
revenues shared by state parks and regional parks?
What is a reasonable mechanism to charge a regional park user fee (if one
is desirable)? Could it be a license rather than a parking sticker? Would
something like the Winter Carnival and Aquatennial badge system work? Any
other ideas?
ISSUE 7. Is there a need for a comprehensive marketing plan for the regional
open space system? What s the Council s appropriate role in facilitating
public use of the regional recreation open space system?
Offering a balanced system, with equitable recreation opportunity across the
Region, may not be enough. A low level of awareness could be a problem. Some
times, a problem is in what people perceive to be limits on their use. The
1980 policy plan accurately states that there is no general public image of a
comprehensive regional park system.
Policy 23. The Council will coordinate, with the implementing agencies, a
public information program to make the public more aware of the
regional recreation open space system.
Public information efforts of the implementing agencies are mostly localized-
dealing only with parks and programs in their jurisdiction and usually aimed
specifically at their constituents. The Council coordinates a limited infor-
mation program about the regional system, in concert with the implementing
agencies" programs, to make the public more broadly aware. Simple dissemina-
tion of information probably does not meet the public's need. One increasingly
frequent suggestion is for the Council to coordinate a system marketing plan
with the implementing agencies which sets regional objectives including deter-
mining potential audiences, informing potential users and evaluating program
response, all throughout the regional system.
A sample objective might be greater public identity for the regional recreation
open space system. The Council is selecting a logo for regional recreation
open space. The logo could become an identifier, universal in the regional
system, clearly marking all opportunities in all regional facilities.
Related Questions:
1. Should there be an effort to:
identify programming being offered in regional recreation open space?
identify potential users for programs being offered?
match users and programs by alerting potential users?
evaluate user response to programs and recommend ways to make them
more compatible with expressed needs, plus suggest new programs to
meet unmet needs?
In other words, should there be a coordinated, system -wide, regional
marketing program for recreation open space?
2. What role in a coordinated marketing program is
Council? For the implementing agencies?
3. Is it appropriate for public agencies to "sell"
recreation facilities?
appropriate for the
users on tax provided
4. Specifically, would it be a good idea for the Council to require that all
regional parks and facilities be identified by a conspicuous, well
publicized logo?
ISSUE 8. Should there be a program for long -term capital maintenance in
regional parks?
In regional parks which pre -date the regional system, especially in Minneapolis
and St. Paul, facilities constructed in WPA days have reached the end of their
life. They're important in the regional system; 50 years use by people across
the region, and from outside, has established a tradition. Rebuilding these
facilities will take place over the next 10 years, using regional funds. No
major issue is anticipated as long as regional development funds are adequate.
What is not established is how future redevelopment in the regional system is
to be funded. Structures, roads, and bridges built with regional funds will
require attention starting about the year 2010. Given that the regional sys-
tem, from 1974 to 1983, spent approximately $34 million regional dollars for
development, and from 1984 -2000 anticipates spending $100 million more, the
required funds will be significant.
As a specific example from the past, a recent estimate set the 1940 investment
at Como Park, including zoo and conservatory, at $662,000. Using a conserva-
tive inflation value, the 1940 facilities would cost approximately $7.5 million
in 1983 dollars to build today. More zoo and park additions will bring the
total anticipated expenditure at Como Park, Zoo Conservatory, by 1990, to
approximately $20 million.
The current CIP anticipates a total investment, regional and other sources, of
approximately $175 million to completely develop (and /or redevelop) regional
recreation open space by year 2000. If a 50 -year life span is assumed for all
development, what will be needed in the years 2025 -2050? It has been said that
our present generation has mortgaged America, to the detriment of the genera-
tion which follows, who must retire the mortgage. Can regional parks be an
exception to that problem?
Related Questions:
1. Should the Council seek an answer now to this problem of the future, or
must the future take care of itself?
2. Is the problem one which could be met by an investment or set -aside program
begun now? Is there a useful model of a "public trust" which could be
adapted?
3. Should the Council and the commission take a pro- active role, working with
other levels of government to find a solution?
ISSUE 9. Is there a need for guidelines for service levels for development and
for operation and maintenance in regional parks?
Metropolitan Council staff, working with staff from implementing agencies, have
developed draft guidelines for service levels (GSL) for both development and
for 0 M. The GSL delineate both the quantity and quality of service which
facilities in regional parks will provide (development), and the quantity and
quality of service which they can sustain through the maintenance they receive
(0 M). The documents are working drafts, to be tried and adjusted in use.
Ultimately, proponents feel that GSL offer a way to measure and predict the
quality as well as quantity of service returned from investment in regional
recreation open space. Opponents say the measures may be so imprecise at the
outset as to be meaningless, therefore, misleading to persons attempting to use
them. Some view GSL as undue infringement on implementing agency prerogatives,
feeling that, as owners and operators, the implementing agencies alone should
set service levels in the regional parks for which they are responsible.
A draft suggests the definition of appropriate level of service as follows:
A level of service which meets all health and safety needs, provides an
aesthetically pleasing environment, maintains the quality of both natural
and built resources, and permits a satisfactory recreation experience up to
the facility's designed capacity and lifetime.
Both Policy 22 and the 1980 text get to "levels of service" in the areas of
development and 0 M. However, the current plan has no definition nor are any
levels set.
Related Questions:
1. Is it important that the regional system meet minimum acceptable service
levels throughout? Who (and how) decides what they are? Is the suggested
definition (above) appropriate? Adequate?
2. Is the difficulty of developing usable service level guidelines such that
they are worth pursuing or not?
3. If usable GSL can be written, should they become part of the policy plan?
(The Council has other separate guidelines which are not part of policy
plans.)
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ISSUE 10. What's the status of local or municipal recreation o•en space in the
an sys em. a s ou e ounci s invo vemen •e in
Working from municipal comprehensive plans, the Council has assembled data, and
will report on the condition of local recreation open space in terms of what
acreage is provided, in what categories, by planning areas (MDF zones). The
report will help to identify municipal recreation open space needs in the
region and should help in priority development for grant reviews. The report
will not be adequate to complete a comprehensive regional plan for local or
municipal recreation needs. Much of what local recreation provides is in the
form of facilities, that is, built resources, necessary for active recreation.
That part of recreation demand in the Region will require continuing Council
study to complete future reports.
Related Questions:
1. Is it appropriate and important for the Council to analyze and coordinate
local efforts in the metropolitan recreation system? Would it be helpful
to the region?
2. Would Council- offered technical assistance help communities do more
effective long -range planning for recreation services?
3. Related to issue 11 as well as issue 10; should there be rewards to those
communities which grant consent to regional park acquisition and develop-
ment within their jurisdiction and, conversely, should there be penalities
to those which do not?
4. Is it correct to state that municipalities more often need active recrea-
tion facilities rather than the recreation open space which the regional
plan tends emphasize? How strongly is this true? How might the Council "s
recreation open space plan change to help with problems?
5. Would it be helpful to local recreation agencies and their users if a
program were developed which coordinated the needs of local agencies with
programs available in the regional recreation open space system?
ISSUE 11. What is an appropriate level of municipal participation and control
in the developing regional regional recreation open space stem?
The 1974 parks act says that:
...(the implementing agency)...shall prepare, after consultation with all
affected municipalities, and submit...a master plan.
The policy plan uses similar language in policy 9:
Each implementing agency is responsible for preparing a master plan for
each regional system unit assigned to it by this policy plan. An imple-
menting agency shall present the master plan to affected local units of
government and addresss their concerns prior to submission to the Council.
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The intent seems plain. Some municipalities have stated that their access to
master plans has come only after the agency has adopted the plan, making subs-
tantive change to meet their concerns improbable. If this has happened, it is
not consistent with policy.
From another point of view, some implementing agencies cite cases in which
municipalities have delayed plan approval unduly in some cases insisting upon
conditions which work against the agency or the regional interest. Some imple-
menting agencies have been prevented from installing needed improvements, even
developments for which the municipalities had given earlier concept approval.
There are differences in the laws which control implementing agencies from one
jurisdiction to another and some of these have, on occasion, blocked an
implementing agency from going ahead with regional projects.
One major effect some municipalities have exerted upon regional open space has
been special assessments levied against parks. The Council, the commission and
some of the implementing agencies have stated increasing concern over the pro-
cess by which municipalities have made special assessments against regional
parkland, questioning if they were based upon actual benefits to the park.
Other concerns are about how assessments should be paid and when they should
be set.
One remedy suggested is that the municipality and the implementing agency
could agree to treat the master plan as a conditional use permit, possibly
meeting at once concerns on the part of the municipalities, the implementing
agency and the Council about the current planning process.
Related Questions:
1. How much control over regional park development should municipalities
have? What happens if more than one municipality is involved?
2. Are the problems real and large enough to be worth bothering about?
3. If an implementing agency and municipality agreed to treat a regional park
master plan for development as a conditional use permit, would it help
resolve the problems cited?
4. Is there a simpler and, therefore, better way to deal with the concerns?
5. What are the "pluses and minuses" to a municipality from a regional park
located within or adjacent to its boundaries?
ISSUE 12. How much leadership does or should the Council's recreation open
space program provide in the area of affirmative action and minority business
enterprises?
Currently, the policy plan for recreation open space does not address this
issue.
In its recent contracts, the Council (May 1983) has inserted language as
follows:
The Council shall not discriminate...on the basis of race, color, creed,
religion, national origin, sex, affectional or sexual preference, age,
political affiliate, marital status, or status with regard to public
Related Questions:
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assistance or disability. The Council shall act affirmatively, through its
minority business enterprise program, and otherwise, to promote and enter
into contracts with minority business enterprises (MBEs), and firms having
effective, implemented affirmative action programs.
The clause in the Council's regional and open space acquisition and development
grant contracts, since 1974, is as follows:
g. The Grantee agrees to comply with all applicable laws relating to
nondiscrimination, affirmative action and public purchase, involvement
and use. In particular, Grantee agrees not to discriminate against
any employee or applicant for employment because of race, color, reli-
gion, sex or national origin and to take affirmative action to assure
that applicants and employees are treated equally with respect to the
following: employment, upgrading, demotion, transfer, recruitment,
lay -off, termination, rates of pay and other forms of compensation,
and selection for training.
In 1984, the 1975 clause appears less than adequate.
Related Questions:
1. Does the Council's current recreation open space program provide adequate
leadership in Affirmative Action and Minority Business Enterprise (AA /MBE)
questions?
2. Would any of the following alternatives better the status quo?
Insert an AA /MBE clause in the policy plan as an added objective?
Require an AA /MBE statement from the responsible implementing agency
as a content element of each master plan?
Requ re proof of an a3equuoatse Affirmative Action and Minority Business
Enterprise program as a contract element for all subsequent regional
recreation open space grants?
Ali of the awe?
None of the above?
Another way?
ISSUE 13. Now much environmental information should be required in regional
park master plans?
In recent years, some park master plans have been challenged over the adequacy
of their review for environmental impacts from the proposed development. The
challenge often has come from local resident groups. The plans have generally
withstood the challenges. In at least one case, review of the planning process
showed that preparation of the master plan had gathered the equivalent of the
information needed to prepare an Environmental Assessment Worksheet (EAW) under
Minnesota environmental laws.
1. In your opinion, does,the current regional master planning process ade-
quately address environmental concerns about park development?
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2. Should master plan preparation, as a matter of course, incorporate
preparation of an,EAW?
3. If yes, should it be prepared and circulated separately or should it be
required as part of a master plan, the contents of which are spelled out in
the policy plan?
ISSUE 14. To what extent should revenues from non- recreation use of regional
parklands be controlled?
Some implementing agencies have realized revenues from non- recreation activity
on land purchased for regional parks. Most comes from continuing existing
uses. Agencies have collected agricultural land rent or crop shares. Some
have rented or leased buildings. A lesser amount has come from sale of build-
ings and equipment. Its important to remember that the implementing agencies
are the owners and operators of the regional park.
According to the 1980 policy plan, the implementing agencies are restricted to
using such revenue for costs which are grant eligible. Policy 20 states:
Grants to implementing agencies will be made for acquisition and
development as follows:
o Acquisition grants will include land costs, relocation assistance,
land stewardship, utility assessments and fees for services performed
by other than agency staff.
o Revenue from interim land uses will be used by the agency for grant-
eligible costs.
o Grants for development will include improvements within the regional
parks, park reserves or trail corridors of recreational facilities,
utilities, landscaping, roads and parking, building construction, and
maintenance facilities to serve the particular unit; as well as
natural resource rehabilitation within park reserves.
o System -wide improvements are grant eligible. When such eligible
system -wide facilities are also used for other than regional park
purposes, the regional funding will be on a negotiated prorated basis.
Barring plan change, if 0 M grants become part of the regional program,
interim revenues could presumably support 0 M.
The 1980 plan does not allow revenues from interim uses to be applied to
0 M. Certain of the implementing agencies suggest that the plan mistakenly
assumed all regional parks were purchased undeveloped and that no recreation
use could occur until regional development grants are made. Interim management
of parks is confined to stewardship because no operation is believed to be
feasible in the undeveloped parks. In fact, several regional parks have been
put into service in the interim between acquisition and development, creating
operating costs which policy says cannot be supported by interim revenues. The
agencies feel they should be permitted to use interim revenues to support
interim 0 M costs.
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Two arguments against-freeing up interim revenue use are:
Policy should not endorse management which is aimed at generating maximum
revenue over a prolonged period. That is not the purpose for which the
land was acquired.
Interim uses could be viewed by surrounding municipalities as a source of
tax revenues. Land put into recreation open space has been removed from
tax rolls for a public use. If it is used as a revenue generator by other
use for some extended time, the municipality from which the land was
removed might feel it has a supportable claim.
Related Questions:
1. What limits, if any, are appropriate to place on generation and expendi-
tures of revenues earned from non- recreation activity in regional recrea-
tion open space?
2. Is generation of revenue a reasonable use of part of a regional park if it
supports recreation services elsewhere?
MEMO TO: ALL INTERESTED PERSONS
FROM: EDWARD MEISTER
DATE: JUNE 20, 1984
REGARDING: SYNOPSIS OF EAGAN EROSION AND
SEDIMENT CONTROL FIELD MANUAL
PURPOSE
The purpose of this manual is to provide individuals with precise
practices that, when implemented, abate the problems of accelerated
erosion resulting from human construction activities. This manual
is provided for by Chanter_ 13.30, Subdivision 13, of the Eagan
City Codes.
BASIC PRINCIPLES OF EROSION CONTROL
There are nine essential principles of erosion and sediment control
upon which all of the conservation practices are based, as follows:
(1) The disturbed area and the duration of exposure to erosion
elements should be minimized.
(2) Stabalize disturbed areas immediately.
(3) Keep storm water runoff velocities low.
(4) Protect disturbed and steep areas from storm water runoff.
(5) Control, reduce, and delay storm water runoff.
(6) Retain sediment.
(7) Fit the activity to the topography and soils.
(8) Do not encroach upon watercourses.
(9) Implement a thorough maintenance and follow -up program.
CONSERVATION PRACTICES
The manual is primarily composed of conservation or soil erosion
abatement practices to be employed for specific land disturbing
activities. The major divisions of the practices are as follows:
(A) ROAD STABILIZATION
(B) SEDIMENT BARRIERS
MEMO TO: ALL INTERESTED PERSONS
DATE: JUNE 20, 1984
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(C) DIKES and DIVERSIONS
(D) SEDIMENT TRAPS and BASINS
(E) FLUMES
(F) WATERWAYS and OUTLET PROTECTION
(G) DRAINAGE PROTECTION
(H) PLANT ESTABLISHMENT
(I) MULCHES
(J) TREES
Each practices, 26 in all, gives a practice description, const-
ruction specifications, conditions where practice applies, and
a maintenance section of the implemented practice.
Some practices, for example 7.2 SUBSURFACE DRAIN, include planning
considerations and design criteria that are fully illustrated.
ENFORCEMENT
The process of implementing the manual will be facilitated by
the standardized forms on pages 178 -186 that have been developed.
These are as follows: SCREENING FORM, APPLICATION FOR LAND DISTURB-
ING PERMIT, INSPECTION REPORT, NOTICE OF REQUIREMENT, AGREEMENT
IN LIEU OF AN EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL PLAN FOR A SINGLE
FAMILY RESIDENCE IN A SUBDIVISION.
A construction project is subject to inspection at any time.
The inspector should notify the owner or his representative before
conducting an official inspection. If the inspection determines
that there is a violation on the site, it is his job to secure
compliance.
At first a verbal warning or an inspector report is used as an
initial notification that there is problems. If the problem
persists, the inspector will issue a Notice to Comply which outlines
the corrective measures which must be taken and the deadline
for compliance. The next stage of enforcement actions could involve
permit revocation, governing performance guarantee on the project
to implement the conservation plan. Final stage of enforcement
would be bringing criminal charges against the owner since a
violation of the manual is a misdemeanor.
use of manual
The manual will operate as the City's official erosion control
policy and procedure document. The management practices will
be useful for the conservation plans submitted for each development
project. The conservation plan is an independant document,
narrative and site plan, that deals soley with the control of
erosion and sedimentation. The Eagan Manual will facilitate a
standardization of conservation practices that is often missing
from the conservation plans.
MEMO TO: ALL INTERESTED PERSONS
DATE: JUNE 20, 1984
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Each management practice has its own code number, coded letter
symbol, and drawn symbol indicator for use on site plans and
conservation plans.
GOOD CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT
Good construction management requires an understanding of three
basic principles;
1. Erosion contol is the first line of defense.
2. Sediment control is the second line of defense.
3. Coordination of erosion and sediment controls will maximize
effectiveness.
EAM /mam
EDWARD MEISTER
3830 PILOT KNOB ROAD, P.O. BOX 21199
EAGAN, MINNESOTA 55121
PHONE: (612) 454 -8100
June 26, 1984
JOANN ELLISON
DIR OF COMMUNITY EDUCATION
INDigtgoot DIST In
14445 bIAMOND PATH
ROSEMOUNT, MN 55068
Dear JoAnn:
city of aagan
Recently the staff and Directors of Parks Recreation in District
196 communities were able to meet and discuss school utilization by
our communities recreation programs. You will recall that this
meeting was prompted by our joint discussion on May 30 and Eagan's
request for gym space in school district facilities.
I wish I could report that the meeting concluded with the resolution
of the space needs problem. Unfortunately, I can not.
The meeting can best be characterized as one that was open, frank and
serious in its attempts to resolve the issue. However, not unlike
many issues, there are complexities and sub issues to consider and
resolve. At this time, each of us is evaluating and attempting to
come to some decision on these sub issues.
One area in which agreement was reached is in the need to know what
space will be made available by the school district. Is the space
formerly used by the Cities of Apple Valley and Rosemount the only
hours /space available or is there additional space beyond last year's
use? Can Community Education improve upon its overall space
utilization and room assignments which would create additional gym
space for allocation to our community recreation programs? I believe
answers to these questions would help us immensely, at least in the
short run, in allocating space to each of the various programs /cit-
ies.
We, Apple Valley, Rosemount and Eagan, are looking for some policy
direction in space allocation by Community Ed. Our long range
program planning efforts will need to be guided by some overall
district policy /priority if we are to effectively address program
needs within individual communities as well as collectively. You
have our assurance of participation in the development of the policy,
but we believe the initial work must come from Community Education.
THE LONE OAK TREE THE SYMBOL OF STRENGTH AND GROWTH IN OUR COMMUNITY
BEA BLOMQUIST
Mayor
THOMAS EGAN
JAMES A. SMITH
JERRY THOMAS
THEODORE WACHTER
Council Members
THOMAS HEDGES
City Administrator
EUGENE VAN OVERBEKE
City Clerk
We now believe the next step is for Community Education to first
address the space availability question and the policy guidelines.
We recognize that with fall and winter programming planning already
in progress, we will have to be ready to act quickly and decisively
to achieve our overall goal of fair and equitable space allocation.
As soon as you are able to define available space, we would like to
meet to review.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation in expediting the "space
available" issue. We will look forward to hearing and meeting with
you con.erning this.
On B= J /alf/ /Of The Communities,
Ken Vraa
Director of Parks Recreation
Eagan
KV /js
CC: Jon Gurban, Apple Valley
Dave Bechtold Rosemount
Greg Konat Burnsville
Steve Michaud Lakeville
Tom Hedges City Administrator
Advisory Parks Rec Comm
City Council
MEMO TO: ADVISORY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
FROM: JIM STURM
DATE: JULY 6, 1984
SUBJECT: HEINE STRASSE BICYCLE CONNECTION
On Wednesday, June 20, I met with Mr. Keith Olson (Lot 9, 4272
Heine Strasse) to discuss the layout of the bicycle trail
connection from Heine Strasse to Clemson Court. City staff's
intent was to keep the path's visual impact to a minimum and
still provide a safe, uninterrupted flow of bicycle movement.
The path was to be relatively flat (street level) to the back of
the Olson residence, thus eliminating a long gradual "runway"
effect from the cul -de -sac. The bituminous surface has to be as
close to Lot 8 as possible for two reasons: 1) The Olson
residence is close to the easement and the extra two feet would
be desirable for Lot 9, and 2) Lot 9 and the house are quite low;
the two extra feet would allow a more gradual "feathering in" to
the existing conditions.
The Parks Department did the rough grading and layed the base
course material. At that point the Road Department took over and
did the finishing grading, eliminating any cross pitch and bumps.
At the turning point, an area approximately ten feet long was
leveled out providing a safer turning radius. The City's 8'
tailgate paver was used to lay the bituminous material. The
turning point was hand formed to the desired radius and the
entire trail was then rolled to a very smooth finish.
There has been concern expressed by Mr. Olson for the possible
need of timbers along his property line. He has plans to make a
timber planter wall in the corner of his lot and along the
easement. The Parks Director has offered to provide the timbers
for the easement side but no labor as black dirt and sod would be
sufficient for the requirements of the Park Department.
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MEMO TO: ADVISORY PARKS RE7CREATION COMMISSION
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FROM: KEN VRAA, DIRECTOR OF PARKS RECREATION
DATE: JUNE 11, 1984
RE: SPECIAL MEETING OF THE ADVISORY COMMISSION JUNE 14
The special meeting of the Advisory Parks Recreation Commission is
called for June 14 beginning at 6:30 P.M.. Members will meet at the
entrance to Blackhawk Park at Riverton and Palisade Way. Tim Erkkila
will be available at that 6:30 meeting.
After the on -site tour of Blackhawk Park, members will proceed to Thomas
Lake Park for a view of the general area along Thomas Lake Road and
Highline Trail to the east.
Following the tour and discussion of these two items deferred from the
regular Commission meeting, we will proceed back to City Hall for further
discussions regarding staffing levels and alternatives for parks develop-
ment.
Item 3 for the agenda is a continuation of the discussion regarding the
strategy /staffing up for the Parks Development Program. As was discussed
at the regular meeting, there are three basic alternatives for carrying
out the development program. To recap, the first alternative constitutes
the contracting out of all design services. Design services would
include the further development and refinement of the basic site plans,
specification development, bid letting and projects inspections.
The second alternative is the exact opposite of "contracting out This
would be the hiring of a landscape architect experienced in design and
detail work including bid specifications to be an internal City
representative.
The third alternative is the utilizations of a project management team
which would monitor and guide the development program. Management ser-
vices, however, would not provide design and engineering skills. Rather
their chief function is to oversee the project. As mentioned, and en-
closed for your review, is a proposal from Boshardt Christenson Corpora-
tion for providing management services. Members will find it interesting
to read this proposal, not only from the standpoint that it is an alter-
native but to also understand the work that will need to be accomplished,
whether it be done by City staff or outside consultants.
Also attached is a chart which depicts the three alternatives, some
advantages and disadvantages of each as well as estimated cost.
In response to several questions that were raised at the Commission
meeting, I provided the following information and restatement to assist
in your understanding.
STAFFING:
Relative to current staffing, the department is authorized a parks fore-
man and six maintenance positions, one of which is the City forester. As
of March 1, 1984, the department was also authorized for one additional
full time maintenance position. This position is still vacant pending
discussion. The department also has authorized seasonal positions for
summer and winter. Accumulatively this amounts to approximately 3200
hours of labor.
Secretarial services are provided by one secretary shared with the Build-
ing Inspections Department. This is the equivalent of one -half secretary
for the Parks Recreation Department.
Recreational services are the responsibility of a recreational programmer
who is assisted in the summer and winter by "assistants" (seasonal
employees who help).
Under the M.E.E.D. Program, the department has also been able to utilize
the services of Jim Sturm. Jim has been providing basic landscape archi-
tectural services to the department over the last five months. His last
day is scheduled to be July 16. During this six months period, Jim has
performed a variety of tasks. These tasks have included developing base
maps for parks, graphic illustrations, landscaping plans, etc..
LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT:
Response to the question of what a landscape architect /parks planner
would do beyond design /specifications /inspections in the referendum
program, I have attached a draft job description for this position. The
title "landscape architect" infers that the individual is involved
strictly with design activities. In fact, experienced landscape archi-
tects are involved in a variety of tasks essential to an expanding com-
munity.
DESIGN TEAM:
The "design team" that is being proposed will be headed by the Director
of Parks Recreation. Other members of the design team would include
the designated landscape architect for the project development. Other
members of the design team would fluctuate with the project. For example
at times the design team might include the chief building inspector or
members of the Inspection Department when dealing with building issues.
The electrical inspector would be involved with those items dealing with
lighting. City personnel from the Engineering Department consulted with
engineering questions and review of alternatives. Finally, under the
internal design program outside expertise could be brought in as needed
from contact resources.
ADDITIONAL SERVICES:
The question was raised as to what additional consulting services would
have to be contracted out if an internal landscape architect /planner is
chosen. Specific tasks have not yet been identified and are, in a large
measure, the direct connection with how fast projects are intended to
move. It would be expected, however, that the two most obvious items
would be survey work and work dealing with utilities (water, sewer).
COSTS:
Relative to cost, I believe the attached chart reflects general cost for
each of the three alternatives. Clearly, the in -house staffing of design
services will be the least expensive. It will also probably be the least
expedient.
TIME FRAME:
A fall construction time frame will require a decision by the Commission
and City Council within the next two weeks. Whichever alternative is
chosen, it will be essential that the chosen alternative will allow the
design team to be in place no later than the 10th of July. This is an
extremely tight time frame, but will have to be met if fall construction
is anticipated. The rationale for this timetable is as follows:
Assuming that we would dormant seed any fall project by November 10,
initial grading would have to begin at least five weeks in advance. This
would allow for all stripping and stockpiling of topsoils, rough grading,
fine grading, inspections and preparation of soils for seeding. This
would mean that a contractor would have to be on site by October 1.
Allowing for only one week to finalize an approved bid and three weeks
for bid advertisement, this will bring the project to September 1. This
will only allow between July 15 and this September 1 deadline to do all
detail design, planning, bid specification, preliminary cost estimating,
public reviews and approvals by both Commission and Council. Clearly
this is an extremely tight time frame and can only be achieved if there
are no delays in the process.
I hope you will find this information useful and informative to the
discussion process.
KV /js
Attach.
MEMO TO: ADVISORY PARKS RECREATION COMMISSION
KEN VRAA, DIRECTOR OF PARKS RECREATION
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DATE: JUNE 14, 1984
RE: NORTHWESTERN BELL UTILITY BUILDING
At the last Advisory Parks Recreation Commission meeting, Commission entertained
the request from Northwestern Bell Telephone for a utility building on park prop-
erty. The utility building was to be placed on ChesMar Park immediately off of
Lexington Avenue.
On Wednesday, June 13, City staff members met with Mr. Ray Nelson and Mr. John
Gerbozy, Real Estate Marketing Supervisor for Northwestern Bell. At that meeting,
staff presented the Commission's concerns relative to the placement of this util-
ity building on park property. The first concern was to minimize the impact on
the site by placing the facility closer to the roadway and property lot lines. The
second concern was relative to the turn around driveway access and third, the
coloration of the building. These issues were addressed with Northwestern Bell.
A new location was tentatively staked which, we believe, significantly reduces the
impact upon existing vegetation. Further, Northwestern Bell has agreed to a
straight drive -in provided it can be 12' in width. Apparently, they believe this
width is necessary for proper servicing and vehicle access. Staff believes this
width is available and could be granted.
Relative to the building proper, Northwestern Bell is in agreement to change the
building materials to meet our request and has, in fact, consented to a wood frame
building should this be a desirable alternative.
A question was also raised relative to the cost for easements or land acquisition
in the City. This building and site will consume approximately 900 sq. ft..
Assuming a $10,000 initial cash payment for this area, the City will be receiving
in excess of $10 per square foot which is well above the going market rate for
even commercial or industrial property.
There appears to be no other alternatives for Northwestern Bell for the location
of this utility building. However, staff is concerned, as the Parks Commission is
concerned, about setting precedent for the location of this or any other facility,
i.e. fire stations, pump houses and the like, on park property. Unfortunately
this precedent has already been set with a number of other facilities on park
property. It will be incumbant upon the Commission and City, as it has done here,
to act firmly in insuring that such needs are well documented and are the least
disruptive to the site as conceivably possible.
COMMISSION ACTIONS:
Because of the urgency of Northwestern Bell and this particular facility, staff is
seeking direction of whether it should proceed with the understanding that
Northwestern Bell will be able to lease the site or if the recommendation is for
rejection.
KV /js
ALTERNATIVE
"Outside" Consulting Firm
"Internal" Landscape Architect In -house design detail, bid spec-
ifications and site inspection
may require using outside help for
survey work and utilities.
Project Manager(s)
COSTS
SERVICE
Provide design detail, engineering,
bid specification and, if desired,
site inspections.
Provides and monitors schedule for
development advance alternatives
aids in decision making process.
Estimates are between 5.5 and 6.5% of total construction budget
plus hourly fee for staff service ranging from $55.00 to $35.00
per hour roughly 6% of $4,000,000 $240,000
One person at $30,000 (max) plus 1/3 for fringe labor costs $40,000
times four years $160,000
One estimate is 2.5% of construction /design costs. 2.5 x 4.5
$112,500 plus direct expense and design fees -(See above).
ADVANTAGES
(1) Expedite
(2) Generally staff to provide a broad range of
service from survey work to design to specifi-
cations.
(1) Best control of project(s) detail, therefore,
lends itself to concept of City as general con-
tractor.
(2) Least expensive of three
(3) Most flexible to park needs
(1) Keeps projects on track
(2) Provides management experience
DISADVANTAGES
(1) Loss of design control on project particularly
the "details"
(2) Some loss of continuity project can become
"lost" in large firm
(3) Will still require staff involvement
Finding the "right" individual with a good mix
of skills and knowledge.
Will still require some outside services.
Parks may not progress as fast
More work for existing staff.
(1) Adds to cost, service does not provide for
engineering or design detail.
(2) Will reduce staff time for "maintenance items"
but not for involvement in project details.
1. "OUTSIDE" CONSULTING FIRM:
2. "INTERNAL" LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT:
3. PROJECT MANAGER(S):
COMMENTS
This is the "traditional" method of parks development. My experience with this (on
over a half dozen development and redevelopment projects) has been very good, largely
because the right firm was obtained and the City design team had built in a number of
"decision thresholds" to retain control (at an added monetary expense). The biggest
single deterrent in my mind is the loss of contact with details and the review and
selection of alternatives. To avoid this pitfall requires a great deal of staff
involvement which is nearly impossible to achieve when the design work is done at a
separate location. It also becomes a duplication of effort.
Again, I've experienced this on a number of projects in the past both large and
small favored because it allows better "detail" control; it too involves a great
deal of staff time in review and decision making. I believe a "superior product" will
be the end result if a capable, experienced individual(s) can be found to fill the
role. Cost effective, but often slower than the above, people may get upset because
they don't see immediate parks development will place great stress and strain on
staff and Commission, concern that one person may not be enough.
Project Managers can take a lot of the "administration detail" away from staff
allowing efforts to be concentrated on significant design issues. The cost of this at
2.5% for one project manager is reasonable. However, this cost does not include
design and engineering another cost additive. For the cost of this "managerial
service,"a lot of lesser paid staff assistants could be employed to be part of the
design team.
ROUGH DRAFT
CITY OF EAGAN
POSITION DESCRIPTION
POSITION TITLE: LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT /PARK PLANNER
DEPARTMENT: PARKS AND RECREATION
POSITION ACCOUNTABLE TO: DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION
NATURE OF WORK: The responsibility of the Landscape
Architect /Park Planner shall involve two basic functions.
1. The analysis and long -term planning relating to the
City Park System.
2. Provide detailed park plans, specifications, con-
struction documents and field inspection of con-
tracted work.
MAJOR AREAS OF ACCOUNTABILITY:
1. Performs environmental inventory and site analysis
of areas proposed for parks.
A. Prepares an analysis of a proposed plat development
relative to the park area.
B. Analyzes and evaluates the potential use of the
park within the Master Park Plan.
C. Recommends changes which may enhance the park area
and proposed residential development.
2. Does planning and design of park areas.
A. Prepares site and program analysis.
B. Does site plan, construction drawings, cost
estimating and writing of specifications.
C. Prepares advertisements and receives bids for
development and construction.
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D. Does field verification.
E. Reviews contractor claims for payment.
F. Process contract documents, change orders, etc..
3. Inspects the installation of plant material, parks
equipment or other construction projects to insure
that construction is consistent with the design specifica-
tion or special provisions.
4. Reviews all subdivision and development plans to
insure landscaping is in compliance with the City
Ordiance.
5. Performs specialized design functions for development
and construction of sidewalks, park and play equipment,
trails, street lighting, irrigation, signage, and other
related park or City projects.
6. Prepares charts, renderings, plan view and other graphics
used in design plans and various reports or studies by
the department.
7. Provides illustrations and other work in connection
with programs and brochures of the department and the
City.
8. Keeps the Director of Parks and Recreation informed as
to significant matters on projects assigned that you will
need to know to coordinate responsibilities of others.
9. Performs other duties and assumes other responsibilities
as a parent or as delegated.
EXAMPLES OF PERFORMANCE CRITERIA:
1. The ability to express oneself in writing in a clear
and precise manner.
2. Able to oral express oneself clearly and concisely in
large group settings including neighborhood park meetings.
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3. Ability to perform field inspections, maintain field
records and notes in an accurate, complete and timely
manner to be able to provide necessary project informa-
tion.
4. Knowledge and details of construction drawing as well
as structural knowledge is necessary.
5. Ability to draft and design work which is neat, complete,
creative, accurate and readily understood.
6. A good working knowledge of plant materials, aerial
topography, civil engineering, agrimony, botany and
biology.
7. An understanding of the bidding procedures and process
in developing specifications, working drawings and
contract documents.
8. Maintain good working relationship with other City
employees, property owners, developers, contractors
so work can proceed in an orderly and businesslike
manner.
9. Sensitive to landscaping design, form, selection of
materials, seasonal variation, maintenance and costs.
DESIRABLE KNOWLEDGE, TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE:
1. Complete knowledge in details of parks planning, designs,
construction, grading and drainage.
2. Knowledge of plant materials, soils, hydrology, botany,
agronomy and ecology.
3. Knowledge of cost estimating, writing specifications,
bid contract documents and procedure of field inspections.
4. Knowledge of construction practice, parks maintenance
practices, design criteria.
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MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS:
Graduation from university with a Bachelor's Degree in
landscape architecture.
Two -four years experience in analysis and park planning.
Able to obtain registration within one year.