10/13/1977 - Advisory Parks & Recreation CommissionMINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE ADVISORY PARK COMMITTEE
October 13; 1977
A regular meeting of the Eagan Advisory Park Committee was held
at 7:30 P.M. at the Eagan City Hall on October 13, 1977. Those
members present were Chairperson Lundsten, Beck, Cooper, Thursten,
Coates, Martin, Brown and Roszak (who appeared at the meeting at
approximately 10 15 P.M.). Also present were City Administrator Tom
Hedges, Park Director Barb Schmidt and Zoning Aid Dale Runkle. Absent
was Committee Member Hagen.
Minutes of the previous regular meeting held on September 8, 1977
was approved.
CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS. The City Administrator reported that
action was taken by the Eagan City Council to hire a CETA employee,
Mr. Don Weckop, as a permanent member of the Park Department mainten-
ance crew. He also stated that the Park Director was authorized to
prepare a grant application to the State Department of Natural
Resources for maintenance funds for the City's existing cross country
ski trails. The City Administrator stated that the proposed improve-
ments of Cliff Road from Blackhawk Road on Cliff Road to a point east
of the intersection from Johnny Cake Ridge Road were again discussed
by the Dakota County Highway Engineer at the last City Council meeting.
According to the City Administrator, the Dakota County Highway
Engineer approached the City Council to consider eliminating the
right -of -way for an eight foot trail on the south side of the road,
and also the median except for the Otersection of Johnny Cake Ridge
Road that was planned for the improvement of Cliff Road. The Park
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Committee addressed the trails on the north side and the south side
as planned for Cliff Road and after considerable discussion on the
matter, and in a motion by Beck, seconded by Coates, and unanimously
approved, the following resolution was offereth
WHEREAS, the Eagan Advisory Park Committee has
supported the construction of an eivhi-
south and north side of Cliff Road from the intersection
of Blackhawk Road to the intersection of Johnny Cake Ridge
Road; and,
WHEREAS, long range planning of the Eagan Advisory
Park Committee proposes that trails be constructed on the
north and south side of Cliff Road due to the fact that
Cliff Road is planned as a major thoroughfare through the
City of Eagan; and,
WHEREAS, trails were planned on both sides of Cliff
Road to serve local neighborhood densities and the regional
aspects of the Minnesota Zoological Gardens and Dakota
County Holland Jenben Park with a recreational trail; and
WHEREAS, the Advisory Park Committee has maintained
a policy to develop trails on county roads and major
thoroughfares which is consistent with the planning of
trails on the north And south side of Cliff Road;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Eagan Advisory
Park Committee recommends that the Eagan City Council
consider acquiring the proper right -of -way on the north
and south side of Cliff Road to allow for the future
construction of an eight foot recreation trail.
PROPOSED PARK GRANTS. Park Director Schmidt reported on
three grant pre applications which have been prepared and submitted
to the State Planning Agency. She reviewed the grant proposals for two
additional tennis courts at Rahn Park, a trail under the NSP power
line easement, and the acquisition of approximately 34 acres of park
land as an addition to existing Patrick Eagan Park. An indication of
Eagan s ranking on the first two proposals is expected in mid
November and on the third in late December.
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PILOT KNOB PARK. Park Director Schmidt reported that a letter
was received from the Timberline Civic Association complimenting
the Advisory Park Committee and the Eagan City Council on the
improvements planned for Pilot Knob Park. Park Director Schmidt
stated that though the Timberline Civic Association does agree
generally with the improvements to Pilot Knob Park, there is some
disagreement with the flood lighting that is proposed for the tennis
courts. She stated the Timberline Civic Association does not desire
flood lighting to be included in the plans for the tennis courts.
Chairperson Lundsten stated that the letter in the matter of flood
lighting for the tennis courts proposed at Pilot Knob Park would be
further reviewed by the Development Committee.
RECREATION REPORT. Dorothy Peterson, Park Department Recreation
Coordinator, presented a recreation report that included a cost
comparison of summer programs that were implemented in other communi-
ties and also plans for a teen center at the Rahn Park Building.
She also advised the Advisory Park Committee on several other
recreation programs which are due to begin in recent months.
DUCKWOOD ESTATES. Mr. John Klein appeared representing Ken
Applebaum and presented the preliminary plat entitled, "Duckwood
Estates' for review by the Advisory Park Committee. Mr. Klein
discussed changing the name of the lake on the property from O'Leary
Lake to Duckwood Lake. Mr. Klein also stated that a 15 foot walk-
way access is proposed between Lots 22 and 23, Block 1 and a 30
foot walkway easement is proposed behind Lot 24, Block 1 to provide
access to "Duckwood Lake'. Mr. Klein stated that the original
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developer of the land abutting Duckwood Lake was in agreement to
dedicate a walkway easement from the eight acre park land dedication
to the north end of Duckwood Lake. Committee Member Coates stated
that the walkways are contiguous to the trail program. therefore was
in favor of the proposed walkway dedication. In a motion by Coates,
seconded by Cooper, all members voting in favor, it was recommended
to the City Council that the 15 foot walkway access between Lots 22
and 23, Block 1, and the 30 foot walkway easement behind Lot 24
to Duckwood Lake be approved subject to the staff and developer
working out the final alignment between the lots and rear lot line.
It was noted that the park planning map should show designation of
the additional link needed to have access around the north end of
the lake so that it would be required for dedication when that
property develops.
WILDERNESS PARK THIRD ADDITION. Mr. Arnold Carlson appeared
and presented the preliminary plat for Wilderness Park Third Addition
for review by the Advisory Park Committee. He stated that the pro-
posed development is abutting Wilderness Park Second Addition and
the proposed park land dedication for the Lexington South Planned
Unit Development. Mr. Carlson explained that the Wilderness Park
Third Addition plat is not a part of the PUD but due to the fact the
development is only 10 lots and does abut the park land proposed as
a part of the Lexington South PUD, he requested that a cash donation
for park land dedication be approved for the development. After
a brief discussion on the matter, and in a motion by Martin, seconded
Thursten, all members voting in favor, it was recommended to the
City Council that a cash donation be accepted for park land dedication
for Wilderness Park Third Addition.
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OAK CHASE PARK LAND DEDICATION. Chairperson Lundsten requested
staff presentation on the question presented by Mr. Jim Frisbee,
developer of Oak Chase, as to whether the City is in agreement to
pick up the assessments on Lot 3, Block 7, Oak Chase Addition, which
is the only remaining lot that is entirely proposed for park land
dedication. Park Director Schmidt stated that the park land dedica-
tion proposed for the Oak Chase Addition was delayed several years
at the request of the developer, Mr. Jim Frisbee. The staff stated
that the proposed Oak Chase Park is a very unusual park in respect
to its large amount of road frontage. As stated by Park Director
Schmidt, since the Oak Chase Park land was not dedicated at the
time of final platting, Mr. Frisbee, the developer, became responsible
for all the road assessments. The staff referred to the policy on
assessments for park lands which reads "when park land is dedicated
as a part of a residential development, the developer shall be
responsible for payment of all assessments against the land existing
at the time of dedication. When new assessments are incurred upon
park land owned by the City, the cost of these assessments will be
born by the General Fund in the case of community parks and will be
spread over the normal assessment area in the case of neighborhood
parks or walkways." Park Director Schmidt stated that, had Mr.
Frisbee dedicated the park land, a majority of the assessments that
are pending would have been the responsibility of the City of Eagan,
however, since the park land has not been dedicated by the developer,
the developer is responsible for payment of all the assessments
against the park land. Far. Frisbee appeared and stated that he is
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willing to handle the assessments on all lots which are to be split,
but asked that the City of Eagan pick up the assessments on Lot 3,
Block 7, Oak Chase Addition, the only remaining lot which is
proposed for park land dedication in its entirety. Park Director
Schmidt stated that the recommendation of the staff is that the City
of Eagan pick up the assessments. for water and sewer and the collector
streets, because of the length of the road and the way in which the
proposed park land was laid out. There was considerable discussion
amongst the Advisory Park Committee Members as to whether all the
unpaid assessments and delinquent assessments against Lot 3, Block 7,
Oak Chase Addition, should be paid in full by the City of Eagan. It
was generally agreed upon by the Advisory Park Committee that the
assessments levied against Lot 3, Block 7, constitutes an inequity
as Mr. Frisbee has indicated in recent correspondence with the City.
After additional discussion on the matter, a motion was introduced
by Martin, seconded by Brown, that the unpaid assessments and delinquent
assessments levied as a matter of record against Lot 3, Block 7,
Oak Chase Addition, be paid in full by the City of Eagan because of
the total amount of assessments paid by the developer to date on the
proposed park land, timing of the dedication, and location of the
park in relationship to Wilderness Run Road, a major collector road,
and in addition that the developer agrees to dedicate all park land
for the Oak Chase Addition by January 1, 1978. There were four
committee members voting aye and four committee members voting nay,
therefore the motion was defeated. After further discussion and
consideration on the matter, a motion was introduced by Thursten,
seconded by Lundsten, that the unpaid assessments and delinquent
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assessments for water and sewer laterals and street improvements be
paid by the City of Eagan because of the amount of the assessments
paid by the developer, timing of the dedication and location of the
park land in relationship to Wilderness Run Road, a major collector
street and further that the developer agrees to dedicate all park
land for the Oak Chase Park by January 1, 1978. Voting in favor
of the motion was Coates, Lundsten, Thursten and Beck. All members
voting against the motion was Brown, Cooper, Martin and Roszak. The
motion was defeated. Chairperson Lundsten stated that the Park
Committee is attempting to resolve the inequity question of the
assessments that were levied against Lot 4, Block 7, Oak Chase
Addition at the request of the City Council, however, both motions
were defeated and therefore requested further consideration by the
Advisory Park Committee. The following resolution made by John
Roszak and seconded by Tom Brown, was unanimously approved.
WHEREAS, a unique circumstance involving park dedication
for Oak Chase Addition has occurred, involving timing of
dedication, the lineal nature of the park and alleged
inequities in the park dedication formula° and
WHEREAS, as the developer has requested certain
considerations regarding payment of assessments on Lot 4,
Block 7, Oak Chase 1st Addition
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Eagan Advisory
Park Committee recommend that the City pay appropriate
assessments as determined by the Assessment Committee in
accordance with City policy and ordinances to remove
these inequities.
DRIVEWAY RELOCATION ARNOLD CARLSON. Park Director Schmidt
reported that the City staff has examined the question of setting
a dollar amount on land proposed to be eliminated from the proposed
Oak Chase Addition park land dedication. She stated that the staff
feels that a cash value would have to be based on unimproved land
as determined by the Minnesota State statutes pertaining to park
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to park land dedication. She further stated that since the park
land dedication has not been finalized with the City of Eagan, the
City is not selling land, but accepting cash in lieu of land for a
portion of the previously agreed upon dedication. Suggested calcu-
lation for the parcels in question are based on $5,000 per acre,
a figure which is substantiated by recent appraisals on the proposed
Northview park land purchase by the City of Eagan which is currently
in process. Dale Runkle, Zoning Aid, stated that the three parcels
that are in question were calculated as follows
1. Carlson driveway relocation 75' x 175' .292 acres or
$1,460.
2. Driveway to Lot 5, Block 7 20° x 139' plus a portion of Lot 5=
.0675 acres or $342.
3. Triangle of trees is .225 acres or $1,130.
Mr. Arnold Carlson appeared and stated that he is suggesting
that he purchase the triangular lot to accomodate the developer,
J1r. Frisbee. Chairperson Lundsten stated that the triangular lot,
or .225 acres of proposed park land, has not been recommended to be
deleted from the park dedication primarily because the lot is needed
as a buffer between the proposed park land and residential lot
development proposed by the developer of Oak Chase, Mr. Jim Frisbee.
She further stated that the Park Committee feels that the City should
not allow property that is proposed for park land dedication to be
sold for development purposes. Chairperson Lundsten stated that the
Advisory Park Committee is in agreement that the City accept cash
in lieu of park dedication to allow I>r. Carlson to relocate his
driveway for safety purposes. She also stated that the Park Advisory
Committee is agreeable to accepting a cash donation instead of park
land dedication for the driveway to Lot 5, Block 7, to allow access
to that property by the developer, Mr. Jim Frisbee.
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Mr. Ed Meisinger, attorney at law, appeared representing Mr.
Arnold Carlson and stated that he is not in agreement with the cash
value determination per acre of $5,,000. He stated that the property
in question is located under a power line and adjacent to land which
abuts a pond which is not buildable unless the City is willing to
accept cash donation in lieu of park land dedication. He further
stated that by allowing a cash donation for the land in question,
one more lot can be developed which provides additional tax revenue
to the City of Eagan. The City Administrator stated that the City
staff has negotiated with the developer, Jir. Jim Frisbee, on the
possibility of trading the south 100 feet of Lot 6, Oak Chase 1st
Addition and the east 200 feet of Lot 2, Block 2, Oak Chase 3rd
Addition for the northwest portion of Lot 5 and the west portion of
Lot 6, however, the developer was not in agreement to considering
this alternative as offered by the Advisory Park Committee. Park
Committee Member Roszak stated that the Advisory Park Committee is
requesting a cash dedication for the loss of park land and that
Minnesota State Statute Section 462.358, Subdivision 2, clearly
indicates that a subdivider must contribute an equivalent amount in
cash based on the fair market value of the undeveloped land if park
land is not dedicated for park purposes. The Park Committee is
willing to recommend that the City accept a cash donation for the
driveway relocation and driveway to Lot 5, Block 7, in the amount of
$1,802, in accordance with their original motion on this matter at
the August 11, 1977 Park Committee meeting, however, there was no
reconsideration of the Park Committee's recommendation not to release
the triangle of trees.
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EAGAN HILLS. Zoning Aid Runkle brought the Advisory Park
Committee up to date on the progress of the proposed park dedication
for the Eagan Hills development which was delayed to allow processing
of the Environmental Assessment Worksheet. Mr. Runkle stated that
an EAW may be required for the Eagan Hills development and therefore
it was recommended that the matter of park dedication be held over
until the next meeting.
PARK DEDICATION POLICY. Chairperson Lundsten reported on the
first park dedication work study session that was held by the
Advisory Park Committee on September 28, 1977. She stated that the
City consultants were present and it became apparent after dicussing
present policy that many aspects of the present policy and process
need to be clarified and coordinated. She further reported that the
next meeting to discuss the park dedication policy is to be held at
70O P.M. on October 26, 1977.
TRAIL COMMITTEE. Park Director Schmidt requested that members
of the Trail Committee each take a specific trail use and attempt to
designate destinations and routes on separate maps. She stated that
once the trails are mapped out by members of the committee, a Trail
Committee meeting should be held to begin work on the trail master
plan for the City of Eagan.
COMMUNITY SCHOOL ADVISORY COUNCIL APPOINTMENT. Park Director
Schmidt stated that a letter was received from the Community Education
Director of School District 191 who is requesting reappointment of
Carolyn Thursten to represent the City of Eagan as a member of the
Community Education Advisory Committee. Park Director Schmidt stated
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that the School District 197 is also asking for an appointment
from the Advisory Park Committee on their Community Education
Advisory Committee. Committee Member Brown stated he is willing to
serve as the City of Eagan's representative on the Community Education
Advisory Council of School District 197.
ORGANIZATION AND DISCUSSION. Chairperson Lundsten stated that
she is concerned about lateness of the Park Committee meetings and
that recent meetings have not adjourned until approximately
12 °00 or later. Park Committee Member Roszak stated that all
informative matters that are reports from the City Council or other
types of reports be presented as memorandums for review by the Park
Advisory Committee as a part of the packet instead of as appearing
as a formal agenda item. He also suggested that a checklist be
prepared for developers which would include all information regardins
petitions and also directing developers to revew the proposed
development with the Development Committee. After review by the
Development Committee a resolution would be prepared and a copy of
the resolution be included in the packet for review by the Advisory
Park Committee. Committee Member Roszak suggested that special
meetings be considered to address certain items all of which should
reduce the time of the regular Park Advisory Committee meetings.
The meeting was unanimously adjourned at 11;47 P.M.
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