07/12/1979 - Advisory Parks & Recreation CommissionMINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE ADVISORY PARK COMMITTEE
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
JULY 12, 1979
A regular meeting of the Eagan Advisory Park Committee was
held on July 12, 1979 at the City Hall. Those present were
Chairperson Lundsten, Carroll, Thurston, Loken, Gits, and Thomas.
Also present were City Planner Dale Runkle, Park Director Barb
Schmidt, Public Works Director Tom Colbert and City Administrator
Tom Hedges. Absent were Committee Members Coates, Martin, Lucke
and Radl.
MINUTES
In a motion by Loken, seconded by Gits, all members voting
in favor, the minutes of the June 14, 1979 Advisory Park Committee
meeting were approved.
ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA
In a motion by Thurston, seconded by Loken, all members
voting in favor, it was RESOLVED that the July 12, 1979 agenda be
approved as presented.
ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
City Administrator Hedges reported on City Council action
to (1) approve the purchase of a grass sweeper; (2) submit a
preapplication for State and Lawcon grant assistance for a 20
acre expansion of Rahn Community Park; (3) approve a contract
for the State share of the fiscal year 1979 grant for park land
in Section 9; (4) approve plans and specifications for a 10 foot
Dakota County bike trail along Johnny Cake Ridge Road; (5) approve
a City trailway on the west side of Pilot Knob Road for that
portion proposed for upgrading between County Road 28 (Yankee
Doodle Road) and proposed I -494.
WINDCREST PLAT
City Planner Runkle stated that park dedication as proposed
for the Windcrest Development has been reevaluated by the City
staff. He indicated that the Windcrest plat consists of 77 acres
of which 12.4 acres is to be dedicated as park land. City Planner
Runkle further indicated that of the 12.4 acre dedication, only
10.9 acres would receive park credit as calculated by the parkland
ponding policy. Therefore, park dedication for the Windcrest
plat is in excess of the required park dedication.
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City Planner Runkle explained that the amount of land
recommended for trail dedication is to allow for future trail
connections to Skovdale Second Addition and the parcel directly
south of Skovdale Second Addition. Another consideration is to
allow for trail connections to the passive area at the SE corner
of the Civic Center Site. Park Director Schmidt explained that
it is important to separate and adequately buffer the trail area
from the residential area and due to the topography within the
area, there are no physical barriers to set the park boundary
aside within the plat. It was also noted that multiple trail
corridors could be developed through this area because of its
proximity to the Civic Center Site and Patrick Eagan Park.
In a motion by Thurston, seconded by Carroll, all members
voting in favor, park dedication of land for trails for the
Windcrest Addition was recommended to the Council as shown on
the proposed plat.
WINDTREE ADDITION PLAT
City Administrator Hedges explained that the City Council
approved the Windtree Addition plat, however, there was concern
as to whether the park land as recommended for dedication was
usable and therefore sent the matter back to the Advisory Park
Committee for further review and consideration. He further
explained that there were additional questions regarding how the
property could be used if in fact it was usable and what the
development costs would be to the City of Eagan. The Advisory
Park Committee reconsidered whether land or cash in lieu of park
land dedication should be recommended for the Windtree Addition.
After discussion of the matter and in a motion by Loken, seconded
by Thomas, with all members voting in favor, a recommendation was
made to the City Council to accept park land dedication instead
of cash in lieu of park land dedication for the Windtree Addition
for the following reasons:
1. There is a limited amount of active park land existing
to service this residential area.
2. Previous Gopher Eagan park land can be made to satisfy
neighborhood park needs with the addition of the park land
recommended for the Windtree plat.
3. Isolation of this residential area requires the provision
of a neighborhood park.
4. Property to satisfy park needs can be obtained at no
cost through dedication, even though there will be some cost for
excavation prior to development of active park land.
5. This land appears to be as suitable for park use as
any other area within this neighborhood.
6. It is probably that additional industrially zoned property
within this neighborhood will be converted to residential use.
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ORRIN THOMPSON
Chuck Winden presented the proposed plat for the Orrin
Thompson development west of Johnny Cake Ridge Road. The plat
provides for an all purpose trail along the gas pipeline easement
as requested by City staff.
Chairperson Lundsten inquired as to the developer's experience
with trails in previous developments. Mr. Thompson stated that
where trails are well planned and serve a definite purpose they
are well used and are a positive factor in the development. He
mentioned a horseback and cross- country ski trail from the Elm
Creek area in his Maple Plain development as an example. He
further stated that he has experienced some problem with back
yard trails which people see as an invasion of their privacy.
Park dedication credit will be calculated at the rate of
50% for the land in the easement area and the developer will grade
and seed the trail area to control erosion. It was proposed
that the remainder of the park dedication requirement be made
up by cash per unit to be placed in escrow against possible land
dedication to satisfy neighborhood park needs in the 140 acre
parcel west of Johnny Cake Ridge Road which Mr. Thompson is
also purchasing.
The responsibility of incorporating landscaped buffers for
the trail area into the developer's landscape plan with credit
given against the cash requirement was also discussed. This
matter will be considered when the landscape plan is submitted.
The developer will install a sidewalk on one side of
Covington Drive and will construct a 10 foot asphalt trail within
the Johnny Cake Ridge Road right of way to tie into the County
trail which is currently under contract for construction. No
final action was taken.
THOMAS LAKE HEIGHTS
City Planner Runkle discussed the proposed plat for Thomas
Lake Heights which is part of the Blackhawk Park PUD. City staff
has contacted the developer regarding the proposed elimination of
Heine Pond as future park dedication due to changes in the oeverall
neighborhood park needs. The location of Thomas Lake Elementary
School with its potential for joint use in conjunction with
Evergreen Park will well satisfy the active facility requirements
within this neighborhood. City staff will meet with the developer
July 17, 1979 to discuss possible substitution of a trail link
south of the proposed plat.
The internal trail link from the Balsam Lane cul de sac which
connects to the trailway in the Heine plat was endorsed by the
Committee. No final action was taken. This plat will be presented
formally to the Committee at the August meeting.
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ZACHMAN HOMES
City Planner Runkle next discussed the proposed plat for
the N z of the SE 1/4 of Section 30. Park Committee members recommended
that park dedication for this plat be satisfied by land, with the
NSP easement to receive 50% credit and the additional land to be
located in such a manner as to accomodate expansion of the free
skating area in the event that the grant proposal for the
expansion of Rahn Park is not funded. No final action was taken.
TILSEN HOMES
City Planner Runkle next presented the proposed Tilsen
plat. Park Committee members recommended that park dedication
be satisfied by the NSP easement area at 50% credit with the
additional requirement to be made up in cash subject to staff
confirmation that the High Line Trail can be extended within the
easement area and that an alternate link to the Blackhawk Road
crossing of I -35E can be provided within State right of way in
the event the tunnel underpass is not constructed. No final
action was taken.
RAHN THOMAS TRAIL
Park Director Schmidt reported on progress on construction
of the Rahn Thomas Trail which has been final graded with asphalt
expected to be applied the week of July 18th. Committee Member
Jean Loken reported a problem with mini bikes making trails in
the Thomas Lake Park Native Prairie area.
FISH LAKE OUTLET
In response to questions from Park Committee members, City
Engineer Colbert discussed the feasibility report for the proposed
overflow outlet for Fish Lake. The State Department of Natural
Resources has set the Normal Ordinary High Water Level at 843.6
with the overflow outlet to be set at 842.1
Chairperson Lundsten requested that the City Engineer
contact the DNR to be sure that this agency is aware that this
elevation will eliminate public access to Fish Lake by flooding
large portions of lakeshore previously dedicated for public use.
It was further requested that City Engineer Colbert prepare an
exhibit for the Council showing the impact of this elevation
on the dedicated park land. Park Director Schmidt was asked to
prepare a memo to the City Council regarding the Park Committee's
concern on this matter for inclusion in the Council packet prior
to the August 7 public hearing.
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RECREATION REPORT
Park Committee members reviewed the Summer and Fall program
reports and suggested that the Summer Theatre Experience be
scheduled again next year in a more densely populated area, and
that Baby Sitting Classes and First Aid classes be scheduled if
they are not offered by other City departments or nearby school
districts. The success of Burnsville walking tours for retired
persons was also discussed.
Committee Member Mike Thomas commented on the excellent
work done by the Park Department crew in preparing for and
assisting the 4th of July Association in preparation for this
year's celebration.
RESIGNATION OF ARNOLD LUCKE
City Administrator Hedges informed the Committee of the
resignation of Committee Member Arnold Lucke who is moving to
Burnsville. The City Council will be notified of the need for a
replacement.
ICE ARENA PROPOSAL
City Administrator Hedges has been contacted by an Eagan
resident, Pat Leahy, regarding a petition signed by several
hundred Eagan residents supporting the need for a covered ice
arena. Building contractor, Mike Gresser, has approached Council
members individually regarding a proposal to build the structure
on City property and lease it to the City. It is expected that
the support group will approach the City for funding. Mr. Gresser
has asked to be on the Council agenda for the July 17, 1979
meeting. The proposal is for a $1,500,000 arena which would
require debt retirement each year in the amount of approximately
$175,000. It is anticipated that this matter will be referred
to the Park Committee by the City Council. Concern was
expressed as to where funds could be obtained for such a proposal
and as to whether this proposal represented a high priority need
for all City residents for a possible bond referendum.
The meeting adjourned at 11:00 p.m.