07/09/1981 - Advisory Parks & Recreation CommissionMINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE ADVISORY PARK 4 RECREATION COMMITTEE
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
JULY 9, 1981
A regular meeting of the Eagan Advisory Parks and Recreation Committee
was held on July 9, 1981 at the Eagan City Hall. The regular meeting was
preceded by a parks tour as the committee reviewed Woodhaven and Carnelian
Parks. Those members present at the meeting were Tilley, Thomas, McNeely,
Thurston, Carroll, Martin, Pettit, and Johnson. Also present was the Parks
and Recreation Director Vraa, City Planner Runkle, Council member Ted
Wachter. Committee members absent was
MINUTES
A motion by Dick Pettit, seconded by McNeely, with all members voting
in favor, the minutes of the regular meeting held on June 11, 1981 were
approved as read.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
In a motion by Tilley, seconded by Thurston, all members voting in
favor the agenda for July 9, 1981 meeting was approved.
NORVIN OAKS PRELIMINARY PLAT
Dale Runkle, City Planner reviewed the application submitted for the
development of 3.7 acres from agriculture to residential single. The
applicant is requesting that two additional single family lots be divided
off to permit for home construction. The director indicated that the
development is in park area 31 W which recently was recommended for
additional park land, Winkler /Jackson addition. After a short discussion,
motion by Carroll, seconded by Tilley acceptance of cash dedication was
recommended. All members voted in favor.
COUNTRYSIDE BUILDERS PRELIMINARY PLAT
City Planner, Dale Runkle reviewed the preliminary plat for Countryside
Builders which consist of two 8 plex buildings and rehabilitating two exist-
ing single family units. The proposed development, which consists of 2.13
acres, is immediately to the north of Woodhaven Park. After discussion by
the committee, a motion by Carroll, seconded by Thurston for the City to
receive cash dedication for the new units and for a tot -lot to be part of
the plat. All members voted in favor.
STATUS REPORT -HILL TOP ESTATES TRAIL
The Director of Parks and Recreation indicated that he and members of
the committee had met with residents of Hill Top Estates addition to review
the proposed trail along the pond edge north of Berry Ridge Road. He indicated
that there was approximately 30 to 40 residents in attendance on the walk.
It was reported that the residents were in favor of the trail and wished to
see it installed at an early opportunity. The director further indicated
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that he has written a letter to Mr. Rod Hardy of Dunn and Curry asking for
a schedule and completion date for the trail. A response from Mr. Hardy
had not been received prior to the Parks Advisory Committee meeting which
had been requested in the letter. There was no action taken by the committee.
PARKS DEDICATION
Chairman Martin indicated that this item had been deferred from the
June 11, 1981 meeting. The director indicated that information in the
packet at that time contained various formulas and methods for parks dedi-
cation. The chairman indicated that it was obvious that the committee should
annually review its parks dedication policies to keep current with in-
flationary trends and increasing land values. The committee discussed
when a recommendation should be made to the City Council. Councilman
Wachter indicated that it would be ideal to have a recommendation from the
Parks Committee to the Council in January so it could be acted upon at the
time the Council reviews other fees and charges. After further discussion
in question by members of the committee it was determined that the issue
should be referred to the development committee for its review. The Director
of Parks and Recreation asked if it was the intent of the committee to
pursue the application of the existing formula, so additional research
prior to the meeting could be made. Further, was it the intent of the
committee to also review a possible inclusion of a separate trails dedication
or if this was to be part of the parks dedication. The committee was directed
by the chairman to review both the potentiality of a trails dedication as well
as a commercial and industrial dedication for this purpose. A committee meet-
ing was established for Wednesday, July 15, 8:00 A.M. at the Park and Recreation
office.
RIDGE CLIFFE PARK APPROVED PLANS
The Director of Parks and Recreation briefly reviewed the Ridge Cliffe
Park plans that were recently approved at a joint meeting of the City Council
and Parks Advisory Committee. He indicated that the consultant anticipates
that the final master plan will be completed within the next two to three
weeks. There was no action from the committee on this item.
PROPOSED LAND GIFT
The director explained the proposed land gift from Jim Tilsen. The
committee discussed the location and the potential use of the two parcels
of land for parks purposes. A motion by Johnson, seconded by Tilley the
recommendation to the City Council is that Lot 11 be acquired at this time
with a payment of accrued taxes. After additional discussion motion passed
unanimously. On a motion by Carroll, seconded by Martin a second triangular
parcel was tabled. All voted in favor.
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POLICY FOR PLAY PERIMETERS
The Director of Recreation explained the process and why this item
appeared on the agenda. He indicated that the staff has taken the position
that play perimeters, with adequate material beneath play equipment, has
been a practice within the department. After discussion by the committee
it was determined that the committee would like to adopt this as a policy
to insure that its application is uniform throughout the park system.
Chairman Martin asked the staff to prepare a formal policy statement for
adoption by the committee at the August meeting.
BOND ISSUE PROCESS
Chairman Martin reviewed the item which was deferred from the June 11,
1981 advisory meeting. He indicated that it was obvious that the parks
committee would find it necessary to pursue a bond issue for future parks
development. The committee went on to discuss the importance of timing,
advance preparation, and concern for other City needs and bond issues.
There was no action taken on this informational item.
GOLFING IN CITY PARKS
The Director of Parks and Recreation mentioned the problem that was
indicated in the packet memo. Members of the committee shared their
observation of golfing in the parks and indicated that they shared some
concerns with errant golf balls striking passer bys as well as homes or
vehicles on adjacent roadways. A motion by Tilley, seconded by Carroll
with all members voting in favor of prohibition of golf balls with the
exception of the use of whiffle balls should be made. Discussion followed
on the motion, determined that at this time the parks committee should
make this a practice with further review at a later time for possible
policy adoption.
The committee also discussed how the prohibition of the striking of
golf balls could be made known to the public. The Director of Parks and
Recreation indicated he would issue a news release from the department
and would take opportunities to inform the public on this issue.
NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARKS CONFERENCE
The Director of Parks and Recreation indicated that the National
Conference would be held in Minneapolis in October of 1981. He reviewed
for the committee members issues that were addressed at the National
Conference and listed the conference sessions and seminars in the
brochure. Members of the committee expressed their enthusiasm for
possible attendance at the conference and asked the director to photo
copy information about the conference to be distributed to each of the
members. Further action on this matter was deferred to the August
meeting.
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CINNAMON RIDGE
The Director of Parks and Recreation explained to members of the
committee the council action of July 7 in allowing partial credit to
Cinnamon Ridge for its park land. He indicated that it was the council's
feeling in as much as the developer was requested to include park land
within the plat by the council, the City give credit for its inclusion.
He further indicated that the council was appreciative of the Advisory
Parks and Recreation Committee's position and of their concern that this
would not set a precedent for future developments for the inclusion of
such small park areas.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business the meeting was adjourned at 9:40 P.M.
Dated: July 9, 1981 KLV
Advisory frk'rk Committee Secretary