12/10/1981 - Advisory Parks & Recreation CommissionADVISORY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
REGULAR MEETING
EAGAN, MINNESOTA
EAGAN CITY HALL
DECEMBER 10, 1981
7:00 P.M.
a) Update; Proposed Park Area #33 - Request from 11 -5 -81,
Dale Runkle.
b) Park Names; Sub- Committee report from 12 -3 -81 meeting.
5. NEW BUSINESS
a) First Review; Data Collection Needs, Master Parks Plan.
6. OTHER BUSINESS
AGENDA
1. CALL TO ORDER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
2. ADOPT AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 5, 1981
3. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL
a) Ed Dunn - Knob Hill
4. OLD BUSINESS
7. ADJOURNMENT
a) Council Action on Vienna Woods /Committee Qualifications.
b) Winter Program - Update
c) Other
MEMO TO: ADVISORY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
FROM: KEN VRAA, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION
RE: DECEMBER 10, MEETING
The December meeting of the Advisory Committee is scheduled for Thursday
evening December 10th at the City Hall.
The Committee will review a development proposal for Knob Hill. This consists
of 40 acres located in the SE 4 of the SE 4 of Section 21. This is in park
service area 21. The comp plan has previously identified the needs in this
area for park land associated with a possible joint City /school purchase.
Members may want to review the enclosed planning department report and the
comp plan guide as it relates to this service area.
Dale Runkle, City Planner will respond to the committee's request for infor-
mation regarding the park land area in service - section 33. This had been
requested at the November meeting.
Also scheduled is a report from the sub - committee on park names. The sub-
committee meets on December 3rd.
Under New Business, staff has prepared a preliminary listing of potential
data that will be needed throughout the course of the Master Plan study.
Additional identification of data by the committee will be invaluable.
Staff will also have available the most recently revised copy of the "Scope
of Services" for the Master Plan that was done at the special meeting of
November 12. This has been forwarded to the City Council. A joint meeting
with the Council is planned. The City Administrator is attempting to find
a date that the Council has open. Because of a very heavy schedule of meetings
already planned for the Council, a joint meeting may not be possible until
early January. If time becomes available, the committee members will be
noticed as early as possible.
Finally, the staff will briefly review and bring the committee up to date
on numerous department operations.
See you on the 10th.
SUBJECT : REZONING AND PRELIMINARY PLAT - KNOB HILL OF EAGAN
APPLICANT : EDMUND B. DUNN, BLACKH WK PARK ASSOCIATES
LOCATION: SE4 OF THE SEz OF SECTION 21
EXISTING ZONING: A (AGRICULTURAL)
DATE OF PUBLIC HEARING: NOVEMBER 24, 1981
DATE OF REPORT : NOVEMBER 19, 1981
REPORTED BY: DALE C. RUNKLE, CITY PLANNER
APPLICATION SUBML'r1'ED:
The first application submitted is a request to rezone approximately 40 acres from
A (Agricultural) to PD (Planned Development District) containing approximately 10.5
acres of LB (Limited Business District) and 19.7 acres of residential which would
consist of 84 condominium units and 102 townhouse units.
The second application submitted is a request for a preliminary plat consisting of
approximately 40 acres and will contain 11 lots of which 5 lots are proposed for
Limited Business use and 6 lots are proposed for residential development.
LAND USE AND ZONING
Presently, the parcel is zoned A (Agricultural District). The land use plan desig-
nates the parcel as LB (Limited Business District) in the eastern i of the proposed
development. The land use designation on the western half of the development is
R -2 (mixed residential) with a density of 3 -6 dwelling units per acre. The proposed
residential development has a net density of approximately 9 dwelling units per acre
which would fit the R -3 land use designation according to the land use plan which
is mixed residential with a density between 6 and 12 dwelling units per acre. If
this development proposal is approved, the City would have to amend the Comprehensive
Guide Plan to change this R -2 land use designation to an R -3 land use designation
going through the amendment process with the Metropolitan Council.
COMMENTS
CITY OF EAGAN
As you may recall, some of this development is tied into the Blackhawk Park Planned
Development. Within the past few years, there has been a land use designation
change from Blackhawk Park Planned Development to this particular parcel. The land
use change was to eliminate LB (Limited Business) zoning which was proposed in the
Blackhawk Park Planned Development south of County Road 30 and east of Thomas Lake
Road. This land use change was transferred to the area north of County Road 30 and
west of Pilot Knob Road. The proposed development plan has incorporated this pro-
posed change in the site work and development preparation of the Knob Hill prelimi-
nary plat. The only portion in the overall plat which would be in question is the
17 acres designated for residential development. As mentioned earlier, this has
been designated on the Camprehensive Guide Plan as R -2 (mixed residential) with a
CITY OF EAGAN
KNOB HTLT, OF EAGAN
NOVEMBER 24, 1981
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density of 3 -6 dwelling units per acre. This particular development will consist
of a net density of 9 dwelling units per acre which is a higher density than desig-
nated on the Comprehensive Guide Plan.
PRELIMINARY PLAT
The overall plat contains 11 lots and street right - of-way designation. In review-
ing the overall plat, it appears the right -of -way for County Road 31, or Pilot Knob
Road, is proposed for 55'. This would be adequate for the upgrading of Pilot Knob
Road. The right -of -way of 55' should also be dedicated on Lot 5, Block 2 of Knob
Hill preliminary plat.
The right -of -way for County Road 30 will be 155' north of the existing centerline
of County Road 30. The reason for this additional right -of -way is that the County
is proposing to shift the alignment of County Road 30 to the north because of the
grades of the intersection of Pilot Knob Road and County Road 30. The applicant
has not shown this 155' right-of-way dedication on the preliminary plat. It is
the staff's understanding that the applicant wishes to have the County acquire
this excess right -of -way instead of dedicating the entire 155'. It is staff's un-
derstanding that the applicant is revising the preliminary plat which will be ready
for the public hearing to show the 155' as an outlot in order to preserve the right -
of -way for the upgrading of County Road 30 and Pilot Knob Road. The outlot would
still be in the ownership of the Dunn Company and the Dunn Company would expect the
County to purchase the additional right -of -way required.
SITE PLAN REVIEW
LAND USE ACREAGE BUILDING COVERAGE REQUIRED PARKING PROPOSED PARKING
Townhouse 14.5 18.4% 255 255
Condo /Apt. 5.1 14.5% 210 96
Office 10.22 19.0% 1,062 1,070
- Note: The proposed outside parking spaces for the townhouse development would
include the individual driveways. The driveways should be set back at
least 20' from all setbacks or drives.
- Note: The parking for the condominium development requires 1 covered parking
space and 1z open parking spaces. The developer is short of the reciir-
ed 210 parking spaces.
- Note: The parking spaces for the offices on the original site plan illustrates
1,070 spaces. With the outlot for additional right -of -way would remove
67 parking spaces. Therefore, there is a net deficit of 59 parking
spaces for the overall office complex.
- Note: The required scruare footage for the condominium project with the 21 one-
bedroom, 42 two- bedroom and 21 -three bedroom would require 6.4 acres.
The net area proposed is 5.1 which gives a deficit of 1.3 acres.
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KNOB HILL OF EAGAN
NOVEMBER 24, 1981
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In reviewing the overall site plan, it appears all setbacks for buildings are met
with the exception of the spacing between the townhouse units at the "L" locations.
These setbacks should be increased to 30'.
The parking for the office complex as stated earlier will have to be relocated and
a 20' green area shall be provided between any public street and the parking lot.
If approved, the preliminary plat and planned development shall be subject to the
following conditions:
1. Outlots shall be established on the plat for the additional right -of -way which
is to be acquired by Dakota County for the upgrading of County Road, Diffley
Road.
2. The plat shall be subject to Dakota County Plat Commission's review and comment
because the plat abuts two County roads.
3. A planned development agreement and development agreement shall be completed
prior to the starting of the 1st Addition. The planned development agreement
shall not exceed a 5 -year term.
4. A homeowner's association by -laws shall be reviewed by the City for each phase
of development.
5. A staging plan shall be required to determine how the area is to be developed.
6. A detailed landscape plan shall be provided with each phase and a landscape
bond for an adequate amount shall be required for each final phase of the de-
velopment.
7. The development shall require all the parking spaces that have been stated in
the planner's report under required parking unless otherwise approved by the
City Council.
8. The plat shall be subject to the Park Committee's recommendations and comments
for park dedication on the proposed development.
9. The developer shall re- design the parking layouts on Lot 7, Block 2 and Lot 1,
Block 3 in order to provide for the additional parking spaces required.
10. All other City ordinances shall be applicable to the overall development plan.
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CITY OF EAGAN
KNOB HILL OF EAGAN
NOVEMBER 24, 1981
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ENGINEERING RECQDATIONS
11. A 55' half right -of -way must be dedicated adjacent to County Road 31
and a 155' half right -of -way must be dedicated adjacent to County Road
30.
12. A ponding and drainage easement must be dedicated providing for a high
water elevation of 886.0 and /or 5.0 acre feet of storage capacity for
the drainage basin referenced as DP -27.
13. A detailed grading and drainage plan must be submitted for formal approval
prior to final plat application.
14. All easements required by the installation of an internal utility distri-
bution system shall be dedicated as a condition of final plat approval.
15. This property shall accept the additional assessments associated with the
upgrading of the zoning of this property for trunk area utilities. It
shall also agree to acceptance of the future assessments associated with
the upgrading of County Road 30 and 31.
16. An 8' bituminous trailway shall be constructed within a 10' strip outside
of the anticipated future dedication of public right -of -way along County
Road 30 and County Road 31.
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T0: ADVISORY PLANNING COMMISSION, C/O DALE C. RUNKLE, CITY PLANNER
FROM: THOMAS A. COLBERT, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS
DAIL: NOVEMBER 19, 1981
RE: PRET,TMINARY PLAT - KNOB HILL OF EAGAN (THE DUNN COMPANY)
The Public Works Department has the following items to be considered by the
Planning Commission for their review of the proposed above- referenced pre-
liminary plat:
UTILITIES
Sanitary sewer and watermain of sufficient size and capacity is available
adjacent to this property to provide the required service anticipated by
this proposed development.
GRADING AND DRAINAGE
The property generally slopes to the north and west towards the existing
drainage basins located in the north central portion of this proposed plat.
These drainage basins presently have existing storm sewer outlet available
which provides positive storm sewer drainage from this site to the Minnesota
River by way of the Blackhawk Lake trunk storm sewer which has recently been
completed. All drainage generated from this plat will be conveyed by way of
an internal storm sewer system into these internal drainage basins prior to
discharging into the referenced storm sewer system which is located in the
northwest corner of this plat.
A detailed grading plan has not been submitted. There appears to be sane
minor grade differentials created along the westerly boundary and the north-
east corner that will require slope easements from the adjacent property ow-
ners based on preliminary spot elevations submitted on their preliminary
grading plan. Based on these proposed spot elevations, it appears that the
maximum grade of any street located within this proposed plat would not ex-
ceed 5% which is well within the subdivision ordinance requirements.
SITE PLAN
The proposed layout of the internal public streets takes into consideration
the separation between the commercial and residential uses of this property
in addition to the differential in the topography elevations between the
southeast corner and the northwest corner of this property. Knob Drive,
which provides the internal access for the proposed commercial use of this
property, has its northerly entrance opposite Berry Ridge Road at its inter-
section with Pilot Knob Road. This is in conformance with the proposed major
intersection access north of the future intersection of Pilot Knob Road with
Diffley Road. The southerly intersection of Knob Drive with County Road 30
is approximately 480' west of the intersection of the two County roads in the
southeast corner. This is adequate for future improvements to County Road 30
in addition to maintaining adequate site distance for this intersection.
Engineering Report - Knob Hill of Eagan
November 24, 1981
Page two
Knob Lane has its proposed intersection lined up with the existing Heine -
Strasse Road and provides for a continuation through the property adjacent
to and westerly of this proposed plat. Until such time as Knob Lane can be
continued to the west, there is adequate room for maintenance vehicles to
turn around with the proposed location of the private drives in the north-
west corner of this plat.
EASEMENTS AND RIGHTS -OF -WAY
A 55' half right -of -way must be dedicated adjacent to County Road 31 to pro-
vide for the future upgrading of Pilot Knob Road. When County Road 30 is
upgraded in the future, its present intersection with County Road 31 will
be relocated approximately 80' north of this existing location. This will
require the dedication of a 155' half right -of -way adjacent to County Road 30
to provide for this proposed future relocation of County Road 30 to the north.
Internal easements necessary for a utility distribution system will have to
be determined upon the final detail design of this system. Upon completion
of that design, the required easements will be dedicated as a part of the
final plat.
A ponding easement must be dedicated around the internal ponding areas of
sufficient dimension to incorporate the 886.0 high water elevation and /or
5.0 acre feet of storage capacity above the 882.0 controlled water elevation
provided by the existing storm sewer outlet for this drainage basin.
ASSESSMENTS
This property has previously been assessed for trunk area sanitary sewer,
water and storm sewer assessments. However, it was assessed at the existing
Agricultural zoned use. With the proposed development of this property to
its anticipated zoning, the difference in trunk area assessments should be
collected as a condition of preliminary plat approval. In addition, lateral
benefit from trunk sanitary sewer will have to be assessed based on benefit
received of the existing trunk sanitary sewer located adjacent to the west
property line. Lateral benefit from trunk water will have to be assessed
due to benefit received from the existing trunk watermain located within
County Road 30 adjacent to the southerly boundary of this proposed plat. In
addition to these referenced assessments, this property will be responsible
for all costs associated with providing internal lateral utility distribu-
tions to service this plat. In addition, a condition of the development
agreement should provide for the acceptance of future assessments associated
with the upgrading of County Road 30 and /or County Road 31.
I will be available to discuss in further detail any questions associated
with this plat at the Planning Commission Meeting of November 24, 1981.
Respectfully submitted,
Thomas A. Colbert, P.E.
Director of Public Works
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MEMO TO: ADVISORY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
FROM: KEN VRAA, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION
RE: DATA COLLECTION; MASTER PLAN STUDY
Preliminary work for the Master Plan Study should begin within the
next few weeks. One of the elements that the committee has previously
identified, was the collection of data that would need to be reviewed
by a consultant.
Below is a preliminary list that has been identified. Additions to
the list may have to be made; then responsibility for insuring that the
data is assembled assigned.
1) Collection of Data on Private Resources.
(1) Univac /Blue Cross /Blue Shield
(2) Golf Facilities
(3) Tennis Courts /Basketball
(4) Play Lots
(5)
(6)
(7)
(8)
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2) Public Facilities
(1) Dakota County Parks - Master Plan
(2) State Parks
(3) Zoo
(4) Minnesota Valley Wildlife Refuge
3) Maps of Proposed Park Land Dedications
Lexington South
Blackhawk
Gopher Eagan
BC /BS
6) Other
Coachman
Meadowlands
Cinnamon Ridge
Winkler /Jackson
Vienna Woods
4) "Maps" of Existing Park Lands; Trail Easements
a) Currently used horse, snowmobile use areas
5) Identify Key Lakes and Ponds for Study
a) Thomas Lake
b) Lemay
c) Blackhawk
d) Patrick Eagan
e)
f)
In addition the committee might want to begin thinking of groups and
organizations who should be contacted for their ideas and perspectives on
park needs.
(1) School Districts 197 - 196 - 191
(2) Director, Dakota County Parks
December 1981
South Delaware Hills
Windtree
Windcrest
Overhil1
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December 1981
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(3) President C.A.A.
(4) President R.A.A.A.
(5) Univac
(6) Blue Cross /Blue Shield
(7) Softball Groups
(8) Lions Club
(9) Neighborhood Associations
a) Timberline
b) River Hills
c) Woodgate
d) Surrey Heights
e) Wilderness Run
f) South Oaks
g) Bur Oaks
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MEMO TO: ADVISORY APRKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
FROM: KEN VRAA, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION
RE: NOVEMBER 5th AGENDA
November 1981
Enclosed is the November 5th Agenda packet. Because of a meeting conflict,
the Advisory Committee will be meeting in the City Administrator's office,
rather than the council chambers. Meeting time returns to 7:00 P.M.
As some of you are aware, there is a new appointee to the committee. Donn
Schumaker. Enclosed is an up -date listing of all members for your reference.
It was suggested that members may want to look at Oak Chase Park to
familiarize themselves with the area as it relates to the request from
James Plantenberg. Members should do so individually if they care to.
Because of darkness at an earlier hour, a group review is not feasible.
The draft of the R.F.P. is not ready for reproduction at this time.
Rather than delay the packet, copies of the draft R.F.P. will be made
available on Thursday evening for review.
Should you not be able to attend the meeting Thursday evening, members
are reminded to call the office.